Beyhadh 2 is not intriguing - Page 3

@TM, in general I have read this entire thread. And I partly agree and partly disagree with everyone. My personal opinion, which is already expressed by some-

1. Maya 1.0 was unique coz that was the first time they showed a woman so obsessed. The only other time this was explored was Saubhagyavati Bhava with KVB as Viraj Dobriyal. Portrayals were completely different. The idea started off at a similar point.

2. Maya 1.0 was also unique coz love has different forms of compassion, obsession, stubbornness, happiness, grief, anger, disappointment, longing, delusions, hope, despondence and hatred too. Maya 1.0 explored everything in the name of love. So it's too simplistic a classification of S1 as BeyHadh Pyaar and S2 as BeyHadh Nafrat. Coz hatred is dependent on love. And her hatred is dependent on love too.

3. She's saying her love found its limit in betrayal but her hatred that stems from it has no limit. However, Season 1 explored EVERY facet of love there is, and to a much greater extent coz there she was shown to have some psychological issues, which made it intriguing etc. Her psychological issues came to the fore throughout. Idk how they screwed up later.

4. She could kill and she did kill for her limitless love and obsession of Arjun, her love was boundary-less. So it made an interesting watch, because Maya 1's character arc was MUCH wider than Maya 2.0.

Now coming to Maya 2.0

1. They have based it on hatred. But hatred itself is the limit for any emotion. Once you reach the point of hatred, there is only so much you can do. The only thing left for her to do is destruction and murder, which is a more normal occurrence when one is filled with hatred, but a very rare occurrence when one is filled with love. Killing someone because you are in love with XYZ, and killing someone because you hate XYZ are completely different. The former, is beyhadh love, the latter need not necessarily be beyhadh because everyone filled with immense hatred has a higher tendency to reach that level to have murderous instincts. Therefore, the character arc for Maya 2.0 is pretty restricted, unless they explore it differently. But how much can they explore when they are showing her to be filled with hatred? The ultimate level is the Roy's defeat, which is anyway a normal consequence. That is why you probably feel Maya 2.0 is less interesting than Maya 1.

2. However, in terms of acting, S2 is INSANE, much better than in S1. In terms of casting, 👏 In terms of characterisation also, everyone's crazy.

3. Coming to the story, S1 was a Maya story, it was how SHE behaved in every situation and how her psychological tendencies affected others, and how they retaliated and in turn how she set out to make things right in HER way, at least this is what I can infer.

4. S2 is a revenge story, more than a Maya story. in S1, they never developed or based the other characters as much as they did the ground work for Maya. But here, every character is being explored, which is why probably Maya's impact is not as strong as it was last time. Here, there is an agenda. In S1, there was no planned agenda that anyone had, they went with the flow. This is what JW said too.

5. Also, Joker from The Dark Knight was considered a greater enigma than he was shown because his past was unknown. There was no origin to him, the unknown, therefore the unpredictable was more intriguing, and the audiences attribute the present behaviour to some extremely horrible, unknown past. Same was the case with S1. They didn't really explore her past to the extent that they should have to show WHY Maya ended up being SO obsessed with the people around her. And that probably made her more of a surprise package. One couldn't really predict what Maya was upto, and why she thought what she thought.

6. Here however, Maya 2.0 has a past, and her present nature is acquired and naturalised, it is not in her second nature to be the way she is. It is a facade she's worn to face the world.

So sorry, this ended up as a very long post. Now the issues that I have -

1. Maya 1 was extremely glamorous and fashionable, she was running a fashion magazine, it was natural. The way she walked, stood, talked, held herself, her gestures, her expressions, the way she set her dress right, everything was perfect because of her background in the fashion industry.

2. Maya 2.0 is more so, she's more glamorous, darker, more fashionable, more conscious of her appearance, to the point that it sort of takes away the naturalness to her. I binge watched the past four episodes and realised this. I never felt that about Maya 1 but her excessive focus on such things in S2 is now getting to me. Maya 2.0 has to loosen up with her hatred and unleash that anger in a more uncontrolled manner. Right now, she is TOO poised in my opinion.

Btw, thank you for pointing out something that is NOT good about the show, coz it makes an interesting read and discussion, reading appreciation after appreciation can get to you at some point I guess.

Beyhadh 1 was running just because of jenny. In this season everyone is doing a great job. All the actors are nice. Moreover I find beyhadh 2 more intriguing because this Maya has combination of both love and hatred in her heart.Its like an eclipse where the hatred has overshadowed the love in her heart. She is the one who cares genuinely about her mom and hates MJ because of the torture she has to go through because of him. In this season she is not just going and Killing people just because she loved someone . In this season she is killing their inner demons and destroying people who destroyed her. Her actions are justifiable. Season 1 Maya's action aren't justifiable. Obsession for love can get you nowhere and her beyhadh love ended up in destroying her. Beyhadh nafrat is also destructible but genuine care of Rudra can help her not only in seeking justice but also bringing her back to the light. Maya 1 was dark while Maya 2 is grey. Makers have already shown the dark maya and her destruction in season 1 so it will be futile and a repeat of story if they do this in season 2. According to me, Maya 1 had just one layer and that was of obsession where she destroyed everyone who came in between what she wanted. Maya2 has layers-she can be devil and she can be an angel.

I am really enjoying the plot line of Beyhadh 2 and so far I have no complaint about it. The dialogues are deep and intriguing. Maya2 thinks that her life is full of darkness and light can never come to her. This season can actually show how some people can still end up with happiness even though once they were destroyed. This season Maya deserves a happy ending. What will be the difference between the two seasons if Maya ends up loveless and lonely in both seasons ?There has to be something different to make this story unique.

Beyhadh1 was too good but i find #beyhadh2 better written than season 1.i find maya jai sing better than maya mehrotra. whole cast doing well.

Story line is so gripping.

For me beyhadh2 is any day better than bh1

mera bhi interest kam ho gya hai...pta nhi....maybe meri expectations zyada thi...🤔

Originally posted by: BarbieVenom

I beg to differ Beyhadh 1 was amazing and unique in it's own way. Comparisions are bound to happten. But IMO, Beyhadh 2 has always had the thrilling element since day 1. It's well written and the cast this time opposite Jen is amazing and talented. In season 1, it was Jen carrying the show on her shoulders as Kushal and Aneri were such terrible actors.

dude you cracked me up🤣

true tho 🤣

secondly beyhadh was all about Maya so it had to be carried by Jennifer..

i have same opinion for season 2.. its all about Maya.. so this season will and should be carried by Jennifer.. if its not then that will go wrong for the plot

Please end this topic..

Both the shows are diff and will have diff viewers.. there is no point comparing only because the name is same. The makers used the name and character to make a new show that's it..

Those who like will watch it no matter if it's better than the first one or not.. there are many ppl who probably did not watch the first instalment and might watch the second one.. everyone has their own taste when it comes to stories and shows..

Originally posted by: Antara123

@TM, in general I have read this entire thread. And I partly agree and partly disagree with everyone. My personal opinion, which is already expressed by some-

1. Maya 1.0 was unique coz that was the first time they showed a woman so obsessed. The only other time this was explored was Saubhagyavati Bhava with KVB as Viraj Dobriyal. Portrayals were completely different. The idea started off at a similar point.

2. Maya 1.0 was also unique coz love has different forms of compassion, obsession, stubbornness, happiness, grief, anger, disappointment, longing, delusions, hope, despondence and hatred too. Maya 1.0 explored everything in the name of love. So it's too simplistic a classification of S1 as BeyHadh Pyaar and S2 as BeyHadh Nafrat. Coz hatred is dependent on love. And her hatred is dependent on love too.

3. She's saying her love found its limit in betrayal but her hatred that stems from it has no limit. However, Season 1 explored EVERY facet of love there is, and to a much greater extent coz there she was shown to have some psychological issues, which made it intriguing etc. Her psychological issues came to the fore throughout. Idk how they screwed up later.

4. She could kill and she did kill for her limitless love and obsession of Arjun, her love was boundary-less. So it made an interesting watch, because Maya 1's character arc was MUCH wider than Maya 2.0.

Now coming to Maya 2.0

1. They have based it on hatred. But hatred itself is the limit for any emotion. Once you reach the point of hatred, there is only so much you can do. The only thing left for her to do is destruction and murder, which is a more normal occurrence when one is filled with hatred, but a very rare occurrence when one is filled with love. Killing someone because you are in love with XYZ, and killing someone because you hate XYZ are completely different. The former, is beyhadh love, the latter need not necessarily be beyhadh because everyone filled with immense hatred has a higher tendency to reach that level to have murderous instincts. Therefore, the character arc for Maya 2.0 is pretty restricted, unless they explore it differently. But how much can they explore when they are showing her to be filled with hatred? The ultimate level is the Roy's defeat, which is anyway a normal consequence. That is why you probably feel Maya 2.0 is less interesting than Maya 1.

2. However, in terms of acting, S2 is INSANE, much better than in S1. In terms of casting, 👏 In terms of characterisation also, everyone's crazy.

3. Coming to the story, S1 was a Maya story, it was how SHE behaved in every situation and how her psychological tendencies affected others, and how they retaliated and in turn how she set out to make things right in HER way, at least this is what I can infer.

4. S2 is a revenge story, more than a Maya story. in S1, they never developed or based the other characters as much as they did the ground work for Maya. But here, every character is being explored, which is why probably Maya's impact is not as strong as it was last time. Here, there is an agenda. In S1, there was no planned agenda that anyone had, they went with the flow. This is what JW said too.

5. Also, Joker from The Dark Knight was considered a greater enigma than he was shown because his past was unknown. There was no origin to him, the unknown, therefore the unpredictable was more intriguing, and the audiences attribute the present behaviour to some extremely horrible, unknown past. Same was the case with S1. They didn't really explore her past to the extent that they should have to show WHY Maya ended up being SO obsessed with the people around her. And that probably made her more of a surprise package. One couldn't really predict what Maya was upto, and why she thought what she thought.

6. Here however, Maya 2.0 has a past, and her present nature is acquired and naturalised, it is not in her second nature to be the way she is. It is a facade she's worn to face the world.

So sorry, this ended up as a very long post. Now the issues that I have -

1. Maya 1 was extremely glamorous and fashionable, she was running a fashion magazine, it was natural. The way she walked, stood, talked, held herself, her gestures, her expressions, the way she set her dress right, everything was perfect because of her background in the fashion industry.

2. Maya 2.0 is more so, she's more glamorous, darker, more fashionable, more conscious of her appearance, to the point that it sort of takes away the naturalness to her. I binge watched the past four episodes and realised this. I never felt that about Maya 1 but her excessive focus on such things in S2 is now getting to me. Maya 2.0 has to loosen up with her hatred and unleash that anger in a more uncontrolled manner. Right now, she is TOO poised in my opinion.

Btw, thank you for pointing out something that is NOT good about the show, coz it makes an interesting read and discussion, reading appreciation after appreciation can get to you at some point I guess.

I agree with you...My viewpoint in this matter is that Maya 1 has psychological issues.... She did not have an understanding of wrong and right, she didn't understand moral, ethical and societal barriers... All she understood was her head going haywire whenever something threatened to take away Arjun from her.... Our law doesn't punish mentally ill people for a reason.....There was a justification for Maya 1....Her brain wasn't like ours....

Maya 2 is not like that... She was an innocent who went through hell...but how does one justify Maya going after innocents like Rishi for her revenge?.... If anything, Rishi is as innocent as she was in her youth.... She is hurting him like MJ hurt her... Degree maybe different but MJ took Maya's innocence from her and She is taking Rishi's innocence from him.... What we have to see is how far she will go?....

Maya 2 is darker than Maya 1.... I don't mind dark characters.... From what I see, she is doing wrong and she blaming her wrong deeds on God.... Last night she kept saying that God is making her do this and God can't be wrong.... She uses words Lord Krishna used during Mahabharata to justify herself.... But her interpretation is not correct....

From what I see... Maya 2 is darker...I do not mind darker... Rather I would appreciate if written correctly....

Problem with this production house and team is that they don't remember what they have shown.... They leave out important points of characters midway... Like they forgot about the fact that Maya has to portray herself as an innocent in front of Rishi....

Maya 1 always won because she was a successful business woman up against middle class family of Arjun...... When she lost her money... She lost her battle... Maya 2.0 does not come from a family of means... Her mother thinks that she was jobless and got job in Rudra's company.... So she is not aware of Maya being rich... How did she become Rich?.. Moreover she is up against someone who is richer and more powerful than her... I can let go of this thinking that her invisibility is the reason for her invincibility against MJ for now...

Beyhadh 1 and Maya 1 was more worldly and less ITV than Beyhadh 2..... Beyhadh 2 is all about "Ye ho raha hai" "CCTV Hai MJ ke ghar me" "Maya rich ho gayi 10 years me" Sab man lo... Kyo?.... Because ITV.....Beyhadh 1 always made sense... Even when Arjun was rich after leap... He didn't start from scratch... He had Maya's shares and her company..... Lukkha admi (I am sorry, I still get mad at them)...

Originally posted by: NamuVyas

Please end this topic..

Both the shows are diff and will have diff viewers.. there is no point comparing only because the name is same. The makers used the name and character to make a new show that's it..

Those who like will watch it no matter if it's better than the first one or not.. there are many ppl who probably did not watch the first instalment and might watch the second one.. everyone has their own taste when it comes to stories and shows..

#MayaIsBack

I am an avid watcher of Beyhadh 1...When name of character, show and the actor is same with nuances of Maya 1...how do we not compare these two?.... If I don't like I won't watch it... It doesn't mean I can't discuss why I am not liking it as of now.... It is an open forum... I haven't commented negatively on any actor.... Why should they end my topic?... Itna time lagta merko type karne me

They are working very hard but ratings are not favoring them... I see people blaming TRP audience but the audience which started watching the show knew what Maya is about.... They left midway because of high expectations... If we don't discuss what is going wrong... How will they correct it?.... I am not against Beyhadh 2....I am just😭😭😭😭... I want to love it...

Originally posted by: FruitToasty

I agree with you...My viewpoint in this matter is that Maya 1 has psychological issues.... She did not have an understanding of wrong and right, she didn't understand moral, ethical and societal barriers... All she understood was her head going haywire whenever something threatened to take away Arjun from her.... Our law doesn't punish mentally ill people for a reason.....There was a justification for Maya 1....Her brain wasn't like ours....

Maya 2 is not like that... She was an innocent who went through hell...but how does one justify Maya going after innocents like Rishi for her revenge?.... If anything, Rishi is as innocent as she was in her youth.... She is hurting him like MJ hurt her... Degree maybe different but MJ took Maya's innocence from her and She is taking Rishi's innocence from him.... What we have to see is how far she will go?....

Maya 2 is darker than Maya 1.... I don't mind dark characters.... From what I see, she is doing wrong and she blaming her wrong deeds on God.... Last night she kept saying that God is making her do this and God can't be wrong.... She uses words Lord Krishna used during Mahabharata to justify herself.... But her interpretation is not correct....

From what I see... Maya 2 is darker...I do not mind darker... Rather I would appreciate if written correctly....

Problem with this production house and team is that they don't remember what they have shown.... They leave out important points of characters midway... Like they forgot about the fact that Maya has to portray herself as an innocent in front of Rishi....

Maya 1 always won because she was a successful business woman up against middle class family of Arjun...... When she lost her money... She lost her battle... Maya 2.0 does not come from a family of means... Her mother thinks that she was jobless and got job in Rudra's company.... So she is not aware of Maya being rich... How did she become Rich?.. Moreover she is up against someone who is richer and more powerful than her... I can let go of this thinking that her invisibility is the reason for her invincibility against MJ for now...

Beyhadh 1 and Maya 1 was more worldly and less ITV than Beyhadh 2..... Beyhadh 2 is all about "Ye ho raha hai" "CCTV Hai MJ ke ghar me" "Maya rich ho gayi 10 years me" Sab man lo... Kyo?.... Because ITV.....Beyhadh 1 always made sense... Even when Arjun was rich after leap... He didn't start from scratch... He had Maya's shares and her company..... Lukkha admi (I am sorry, I still get mad at them)...

mentally ill has different classes.. and they do get punished by law depending on their crimes... Most of the serial killers aŕe psychopaths or sociopaths... just because their brain works differently doesn't make their crimes any less heinous and neither does the law spare them...

And about harming Rishi.. he is a weapon she is using to hurt MJ.. it's not about morally correct or wrong.. it's what she needs to get her revenge.. I don't see any point in comparing both the season characters as they are 2 different people.. i don't know what Maya in 2nd season is capable of cause it's still going.. but from what i have seen in season 1 Maya have killed people for no reason.. they didn't even harm her and neither had any relation to people who wronged her.. and it can not be excused on her mental health..

About blaming God.. well people are different.. I have a friend who blames God for every tiny hurdle she gets 'bhagwaan aisa hi karte hai mere sath' 'bhagwaan unfair hai' 'bhagwaan achhe logo ke sath bura kyu karte hai' and then i have another friend who thanks God even when things are not going so well for him.. he would thank God for blessing him with obstacle that will help him grow as a human.. Different people have different equation with God... 😆

But I agree with you.. few things don't make sense here yet.. like you said how she got rich in that period.. may be they can show her last 10 years struggle in future episodes...

and sometimes I feel too much talking is happening.. like the party was stretched to 3-4 episodes which could have been done in 1 less episode.. and too much talking about death.. like extra foreshadowing.. that much is not needed.. too much talking at times ruins the shock factor and makes it predictable...

but pace was also a problem in season 1 at times.. there used to be filler episodes in that season too..