Babita's Patiala Babes Restaurant - E24 Segment - Page 7

Originally posted by: zehreeli.kheer

I don't think either Mini or Babita were selfish in their conduct.. I am questioning the reasoning.. if Babita was selfish then according to Mini's logic, by default she too is selfish since she did not think about Khuranas either

Originally posted by: naq5

both were selfish in their own ways. With Mini only that it was not minis age at that time to take care of her grandparents and stay with them forgetting her career and dreams whereas they should have been taken care of by their own children. And she did keep in touch with them being emotionally connected via video calls and all. Babita to expected mini to cut off all ties with them and not even be emotionally connected to them.

None of them were selfish in my opinion.. Mini was 18 years old, the age when Babita got married and the age since Babita was taking care of everyone..

Emotional connect? I thought we were talking about inhumai in leaving Khuranas to fend for themselves..

Yes.. Babita expected that because she was worried that Biji would poison Mini's mind about Babita and Hanuman.. was she right in her approach? No.. but her reasoning was not wrong

Originally posted by: naq5

so if she was wrong in calling her meeta did she talk to mini about it. She evrn called her that she is after all. Ashoks daughter and left it at that. If you say a wrong thing who is going to clarify it instead to keep building more things on it without clarifying. Even in earlier mini babita fights they always clarified before moving on.

If you have seen earlier episodes which you may see because there will be a reawatch now. Why did babita scold mini when mini fought with biji not to influence babita and take her back into their house. Why did babita ask mini to return jewellery and fall at bijis feet and say sorry when mini fought with her over it. Why did she insist that she be good to them all the time. Suddenly after she gets married and gets a new life she wants mini not to help her grandparents with going to hospital. Some double standars in teaching children manners. Kabhi kuch to kabhi kuch.

And daadu beeji were always like this daadu supporting babita meekly and not being strong enough and beeji being the selfish one and expecting niceness only from babitas side. It's not tht they changed overnight that babita started hating them overnight. Babita loved and cared for them inspite of them being like this. She never really comunicated to them what she wanted. Never gave them a chance to see what she wanted. All that gave them a false impression that she was OK with everything. One fine day she decides to burst at them and blame them for not understanding her which was not wrong in her part. I actually loved it when she told them off. But she suddenly decides she dosent care for them that is also fine but she also decides mini should also not care for them.

Yes.. they did talk about stuff earlier but later the writers wanted to build the oh so poor Mini narrative tou how could they talk? mini got away with taunting Babita about her relationship with Hanuman and calling her selfish too.. did she ever realize that she was wrong in both accounts? No.. same with Babita

As i said, Babita considered Khuranas her parents so she wanted her daughter to respect them.. but her grievance that she had suppressed came to the fore not because she got happily married but because the same so called parents decided that instead of Lovely it is Babita who should be stopped.. The same Khuranas did not have a problem with Lovely churning out vile stuff but wanted to stop Bahita.. it's that moment which broke the shackles for Babita..

Once again, who took them to the hospital for five years?

Originally posted by: zehreeli.kheer

Dadu Biji did not have anyone but Mini to take care of them so it was inhumane of Babita to stop Mini from taking care of them so I ask again.. is Mini inhuman for leaving them to fend off for themselves for five years?

Babita did have a right to expect Mini to not keep relations with the Khuranas.. her expectation was not wrong.. no mother would want her child to continue meeting people who had no qualms in hearing her beizzati from their lovely daughter.. her fear that Biji would poison Mini's mind against her was not unfounded seeing as Biji was party to Babita badmouthing session with Kammo and lovely during Babita's wedding..

Not doubting beeji was an awful person and I disliked her myself. And yes she did badmouth babita but THEY ARE MINIS GRANDPARENTS. She never badmouthed babita to mini so babitas reasons for stopping mini from seeing them are completely unfounded especially considering she was stopping an almost 18 year old. This is wrong and it’s so shocking just how many women think it’s alright to control who the kid sees or don’t when there’s no real reason to stop kids seeing someone besides the parents dislike for the person. Beeji isn’t the first mother in law to badmouth her daughter in law or x DIL and she won’t be the last. Babita has every right to hate her but mini’s relationship with beeji is different to babitas. And unless mini is unsafe in their presence there’s no real reason to stop an 18 yo seeing their grandparents.

It would be the same if mini chose to one day keep a relationship with her father. Babita wouldn’t have a right to stop this either cos at that age it’s mini’s choice and HER RELATION to choose whether to keep or not.

We are not talking about a minor here we are talking about a young adult

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

Well, according to the latest promo Naeem Bi has asked her to stay back to save the restaurant as it will safeguard Arya's future. So take what you will from that.

The problem is that neither Babita nor Minnie handled the situation properly. The day before Minnie blasted at Babita and accused of her being selfish. The next day, Babita accused her of becoming a second Meeta and slapped her. Both of them have violent tempers and are highly impulsive. Minnie is this way with everyone, whereas Babita lashes out at people to whom she's exceptionally close to (i.e., Minnie and HS).

Pre marriage, they actually talked about their issues. Even when they were fighting, they were honest about what was bothering them. Post marriage, they skirted around these matters and just lashed at each other without rhyme or reason.

You’re damn right about that, they’re both as bad as each other and mini has unfortunately got the bad traits from both her mother and her father. Babita and her are both too emotional, stubborn and yes violent.

And I guess a lesson can be taken from the show that a lot of heartache and regret can be avoided if we speak about our issues to each other rather than speaking to others or brushing it under the carpet and pretending like nothing went on the next day.

I still reckon the writers were a bit over dramatic on the last episode because in reality no mother’s anger is that strong. Especially when your only kid is all but begging for a goodbye before leaving her. And she’d most certainly call once she landed to see if she landed safely. Or teach her cook knowing the kid can’t cook.

I have stopped applying too much of logic to the show because the realism element has been lost for me a long time ago. Now I just enjoy it as a drama story

Originally posted by: deefy89

Not doubting beeji was an awful person and I disliked her myself. And yes she did badmouth babita but THEY ARE MINIS GRANDPARENTS. She never badmouthed babita to mini so babitas reasons for stopping mini from seeing them are completely unfounded especially considering she was stopping an almost 18 year old. This is wrong and it’s so shocking just how many women think it’s alright to control who the kid sees or don’t when there’s no real reason to stop kids seeing someone besides the parents dislike for the person. Beeji isn’t the first mother in law to badmouth her daughter in law or x DIL and she won’t be the last. Babita has every right to hate her but mini’s relationship with beeji is different to babitas. And unless mini is unsafe in their presence there’s no real reason to stop an 18 yo seeing their grandparents.

It would be the same if mini chose to one day keep a relationship with her father. Babita wouldn’t have a right to stop this either cos at that age it’s mini’s choice and HER RELATION to choose whether to keep or not.

We are not talking about a minor here we are talking about a young adult

this is what the issue is. Children are seen as properties, who need to be controlled, who need to act according to parents whims & wishes. Its sad that they dont see children as having wishes & equations of their own. This is how a patriarchal system works. The general conception is that a patriarchal system is only about man & woman but its basically about how people who you think are lower to your positions are forced to toe a certain line so that your supremacy and will is maintained

"Right parent have no control they cannot control kids. only thing they can do is feed you ,clothed you, sheltered you ,educate you, fulfil your demand.

"And then endure your rudeness, hear them saying what you done is job of every parent, in decision you take or make get lectured by them what's right what's wrong.

"They have no right to tell you keep your distance from certain people, or stop meeting one or other cause they feel insecure about them. or stay cautious about your surroundings cause if something bad happen people will point finger at you, what will people say about them or you.

"They have no right to make decisions about your career or advise them of, what to do what not to do , what to wear what not to wear , who to meet and not to meet , when to go when not to go, where to go where not to go , after all kids aren't their property they're kids they deserve freedom"!

Originally posted by: Rashmisingh9151

"Right parent have no control they cannot control kids. only thing they can do is feed you ,clothed you, sheltered you ,educate you, fulfil your demand.

"And then endure your rudeness, hear them saying what you done is job of every parent, in decision you take or make get lectured by them what's right what's wrong.

"They have no right to tell you keep your distance from certain people, or stop meeting one or other cause they feel insecure about them. or stay cautious about your surroundings cause if something bad happen people will point finger at you, what will people say about them or you.

"They have no right to make decisions about your career or advise them of, what to do what not to do , what to wear what not to wear , who to meet and not to meet , when to go when not to go, where to go where not to go , after all kids aren't their property they're kids they deserve freedom"!

Originally posted by: naq5

this is what the issue is. Children are seen as properties, who need to be controlled, who need to act according to parents whims & wishes. Its sad that they dont see children as having wishes & equations of their own. This is how a patriarchal system works. The general conception is that a patriarchal system is only about man & woman but its basically about how people who you think are lower to your positions are forced to toe a certain line so that your supremacy and will is maintained

100%

I mean I get if they were bad mouthing babita in front of mini trying to influence her or if mini was young enough to get influenced but this isn’t the case. It’s just wrong to have such expectations from children even when they’re grown enough to make up their own mind. She was adult enough to plan her wedding and take care of her shop so she’s adult enough to decide if she wants to see her own grandparents.

I don't know whether the writers did it on purpose but :

Babita was very kind and understanding with Mini till her marriage as she was dependent on her daughter for many practical things in her life.

But as soon as she had a husband , she started to ill-treat Mini as she longer needed her .

As a result she came out to be a very selfish person .

Without being emotionally involved with the serial or being fan of any of the stars , that is what seemed to me from a third person angle .