Babita's Patiala Babes Restaurant - E24 Segment - Page 6

Originally posted by: deefy89

I’m sure she will realise that it’s the wrong thing to do to leave Arya. We know that she chooses to stay anyways. I guess we are just seeing the process of what lead to that change?

Just to touch on your point about the grandparents. Yes you’re spot on that it’s babitas choice however the choice she made wasn’t in the best interest of the kid in question. They may have been awful in-laws to babita and she has a right to dislike them but they were good grandparents to mini and we seen how being away from them contributed to her depression and how associating with them again helped with her depression. This is a common issue with broken homes where kids are pushed to and fro and expected to have the same feelings that the parents have. We aren’t talking about a child who’s susceptible to influence here that babita had reason to worry. If anyone spoke a bad word about her babes she wouldn’t stand for it. At 18 it’s mini’s choice whether she wants to mingle with her grandparents or not. It’s not like they were evil ppl.

What we’ve learned from both the mother and daughter is that they’re both emotional af and just blurt things out in haste. Even tho mini speaks about speak practical and that she too has an emotional knee jerk reaction and just speaks without thinking. In the same breath babita should of put forth her reasons for her not wanting mini to associate with her grandparents however she didn’t. Who knows? A conversation could of arose and her insecurities could of been settled. It all boils down to babita not wanting traces of her old life and preferring to settle into this new life (which is her right) however not understanding that mini doesn’t feel the same (rightly so because it’s not her x family like it’s babitas x family).

This is a common problem post divorces/2nd marriages and it’s only a problem when the choices are being made selfishly instead of in the best interest of the kid (like burning HER FATHERS letter also)

Well, according to the latest promo Naeem Bi has asked her to stay back to save the restaurant as it will safeguard Arya's future. So take what you will from that.

The problem is that neither Babita nor Minnie handled the situation properly. The day before Minnie blasted at Babita and accused of her being selfish. The next day, Babita accused her of becoming a second Meeta and slapped her. Both of them have violent tempers and are highly impulsive. Minnie is this way with everyone, whereas Babita lashes out at people to whom she's exceptionally close to (i.e., Minnie and HS).

Pre marriage, they actually talked about their issues. Even when they were fighting, they were honest about what was bothering them. Post marriage, they skirted around these matters and just lashed at each other without rhyme or reason.

So babita first ruins her bana banaya business and sells of a shop she bought for 8 L for 2L something. Then she realises what she lost and goes back to open a restaurant taking money from everyone and keeping haveli girvi. She dint even bother to wait to get a good sum for the shop and sold it at a loss. Now if PB restaurant runs in losses haveli ko kaun bachayega. These people think doing business is a joke. First act impulsively and sell things off in loss and then for the same thing take loan and mortgage off the house. How did babita herself stand up her business then. Money to she got keeping haveli girvi wo bhi HS ki ancestral haveli. She obviously dint do it alone without major help from everybody. And was HS really mad to let her keep haveli girvi after her investing in shop previously and she duboing that money by selling off the shop at a loss. How stupid is this. I know people who have started restaurant business and I know how much investment goes in and one literally starts earning profit after some years. And if uve taken loan then it's even more difficult

And how mini never heard of PB restaurant when she came back in between. Was the reataurant not famous that she dint hear about it. And no one even discussed it. And what stopped babita from telling mini about it after she realised her mistake. Season 2 just dosent make any sense to me.

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

Well, according to the latest promo Naeem Bi has asked her to stay back to save the restaurant as it will safeguard Arya's future. So take what you will from that.

The problem is that neither Babita nor Minnie handled the situation properly. The day before Minnie blasted at Babita and accused of her being selfish. The next day, Babita accused her of becoming a second Meeta and slapped her. Both of them have violent tempers and are highly impulsive. Minnie is this way with everyone, whereas Babita lashes out at people to whom she's exceptionally close to (i.e., Minnie and HS).

Pre marriage, they actually talked about their issues. Even when they were fighting, they were honest about what was bothering them. Post marriage, they skirted around these matters and just lashed at each other without rhyme or reason.

But mini was right there babita was selfish. Firstly because she wanted mini to break relations with her grandparents because babita wanted it. Secondly mini went to them to help with their hospital visit. Now if she just expected the old couple to fend for themself like this she was selfish there too. And the 2nd thing is babita had good relations with them even after divorce. The issue that she was not supported properly in their house, was not sent to London,was expected to sacrifice existed even then. Then babita dint have an issue with Sr ks. Why because she needed them emotionally because she had no elders to call her own. Even while sending ashok away she dint think them as a bojh to her but wanted to care for them herself. Suddenly of after marriage and finding her happiness she wants to have to do nothing with them it is being selfish. Mini was not wrong there.

Where as when babita called mini another meeta that was not true. Mini preet mickey equation was open between the 3 of them and Mini was not being any meeta there.

The thing is that both mini babita have issues hurting off people in anger. But mini in her anger will say the bitter truth while with babita it is different. She will blame people wrongly and say things which are not the truth. And that is a major point because if you keep blaming people wrongly for what they are not and for what they have not done your relationships cannot survive. You will end up hurting the person very badly and they will go away emotionally. And with babita there is no clarification also Later on. The meeta thing was never clarified and the ur ur fathers daughter also .. Im sure after blaming HS for mini going away she might have never clarified that too with him.

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

I understand the desire to escape, but in this situation, it's not the correct thing to do. If Arya wasn't in the picture, then I wouldn't object to her wanting to leave. Some memories are far too painful and it's best to take a little break to compose oneself and gain a little perspective. However, Arya is there and she has to be taken into consideration. It just won't be right for Minnie to simply leave whilst abandoning that small bacchi.

Post marriage, Babita did so many things that made no sense to me. The whole Khurana fiasco, being suspicious of Mickey, completely giving up on her business and "devoting" herself to HS' love - they all went completely against what she stood for initially.

Still, if we want to stay within the realm of the show, even then it doesn't make sense. When she moved out, she still cared enough about them to go back to the house when Beeji fell ill. She didn't have to advise Dadu but she did when he wanted to go to Haridwar while leaving Beeji behind. Moreover she even baked them a cake and went to them to reconcile their broken relationship with Minnie so that it helped her daughter to come out of depression. Yes, the Khuranas were horrible to her but were they so bad that they she harbors absolutely zero affections for them? Was it still her "helplessness" that made her do all the aforementioned things?

Beeji was vicious to her and Dadu wronged her by keeping quiet the whole time. If Babita didn't want a repeat of that in her newly married life, then it is her choice and she was right to ask for such a thing. If she didn't want Minnie to meet them then she was right to ask for it too. If Minnie objected to it, then she should have put forth her case in a better manner than just calling her mother selfish. As it is, the Khuranas don't really care for Babita save for the fact that she's their connection to Minnie. That's the only value that she holds in their life. If Babita doesn't want to associate herself or keep such people in her life, then she should go for it. If she doesn't want her child to mingle with people who hold such mentality then again, she has the right to ask for it. Wanting your child to not speak to people who humiliated or abused, I don't see that as being selfish.

She had no right to stop mini from meeting her grand parents considering she still Wanted to have relations with them. You cannot impose your anger on ur child. Children are not parents property. And considering daadu beeji had no One to care for them it would have been against humanitarian grounds to ask mini also not to help them.

All the time after marriage babita has treated mini like her property. As Means to whatever she wanted to show society and keep her 3nd marriage successful. So mini should not talk to her grandparents because it's her wish. Mini should not keep friendship with mickey because she dosent want to listen to taunts. Mini should forget her college do correspondence course and move with her to remote village because she cannot stay away from HS. Mini not go to study photography because babita dosent want people to talk that she couldnt care for her daughter after 2nd marriage. Mini should not read ashoks letter because that would give her a sense of satisfaction that mini choose her over her father. Mini should complete her studies and get married off when and where she wanted. In all this did she ever see what mini as a person wanted. What were her dreams and wishes. If mini dosent listen to her then she will blame her that she dosent care for her and will not talk and support her. All the years she allowed mini to control her because she was weak herself and when she felt stronger and entitled due to her marriage with HS she wanted control over mini as she never got to do that as a mother all the years. HS was right when he said that she was in a competion with her own daughter as to kiski marji chalegi. But she forgot that such control works with a 5 or a 6 year old not with a 18 year old child

Originally posted by: naq5

But mini was right there babita was selfish. Firstly because she wanted mini to break relations with her grandparents because babita wanted it. Secondly mini went to them to help with their hospital visit. Now if she just expected the old couple to fend for themself like this she was selfish there too. And the 2nd thing is babita had good relations with them even after divorce. The issue that she was not supported properly in their house, was not sent to London,was expected to sacrifice existed even then. Then babita dint have an issue with Sr ks. Why because she needed them emotionally because she had no elders to call her own. Even while sending ashok away she dint think them as a bojh to her but wanted to care for them herself. Suddenly of after marriage and finding her happiness she wants to have to do nothing with them it is being selfish. Mini was not wrong there.

Where as when babita called mini another meeta that was not true. Mini preet mickey equation was open between the 3 of them and Mini was not being any meeta there.

The thing is that both mini babita have issues hurting off people in anger. But mini in her anger will say the bitter truth while with babita it is different. She will blame people wrongly and say things which are not the truth. And that is a major point because if you keep blaming people wrongly for what they are not and for what they have not done your relationships cannot survive. You will end up hurting the person very badly and they will go away emotionally. And with babita there is no clarification also Later on. The meeta thing was never clarified and the ur ur fathers daughter also .. Im sure after blaming HS for mini going away she might have never clarified that too with him.

So who did Mini expect to take care of Khuranas when she went to Australia? Its not like she thought about them when she was submitting her application.. so does that make her selfish too? She wanted to take Khuranas and go away because things weren't going great with Hanuman Babita but when she submitted her application for Australia, did she think how Khuranas would be left on their own? Should she too be called selfish as when she wanted reassurance pf belonging to a family, she factored in Khuranas in her decision but when it came to her future, she did not spare them a thought?

Babita did take care of Khuranas and had a soft spot for them and loved them like her own.. it was not because she found Hanuman's love that she changed her stance towards them.. it was because Biji decided to side with Lovely when she was spoiling her wedding that Babita lost control.. it was then that she realized that no matter how much Seva she does, she would always be the outside in K family and they would always put Lovely before her which wasn't untrue

As for the soulmate saga, yes.. the equation was clear for three of them but not really to Babita or anyone else for that matter.. she did not want her daughter to ve seen as a third wheel in a relationship and that's not wrong.. was she wrong in calling hef Meeta? Definitely.. were her fears ungrounded? No

Dadu Biji did not have anyone but Mini to take care of them so it was inhumane of Babita to stop Mini from taking care of them so I ask again.. is Mini inhuman for leaving them to fend off for themselves for five years?

Babita did have a right to expect Mini to not keep relations with the Khuranas.. her expectation was not wrong.. no mother would want her child to continue meeting people who had no qualms in hearing her beizzati from their lovely daughter.. her fear that Biji would poison Mini's mind against her was not unfounded seeing as Biji was party to Babita badmouthing session with Kammo and lovely during Babita's wedding..

Mini stopped being right when she said Lovely was not Dil ki buri.. she lost the whole argument then and there

Originally posted by: zehreeli.kheer

Dadu Biji did not have anyone but Mini to take care of them so it was inhumane of Babita to stop Mini from taking care of them so I ask again.. is Mini inhuman for leaving them to fend off for themselves for five years?

Babita did have a right to expect Mini to not keep relations with the Khuranas.. her expectation was not wrong.. no mother would want her child to continue meeting people who had no qualms in hearing her beizzati from their lovely daughter.. her fear that Biji would poison Mini's mind against her was not unfounded seeing as Biji was party to Babita badmouthing session with Kammo and lovely during Babita's wedding..

Well mini is considered selfish for leaving Babita and HS also to go away and study and follow her dreams. So that way she was selfish regarding her grandparents also for leaving them. Then every child in this world is selfish for leaving parents to study and make a career they dream in. If they have old grand parents and their kids have left them so it's even more selfish. Mini to babita ki hi beti hai na. Ashok ki bhi beti hai according to babita selfishness to khandani hai. Maa Baap dono se milti hai

Originally posted by: naq5

Well mini is considered selfish for leaving Babita and HS also to go away and study and follow her dreams. So that way she was selfish regarding her grandparents also for leaving them. Then every child in this world is selfish for leaving parents to study and make a career they dream in. If they have old grand parents and their kids have left them so it's even more selfish. Mini to babita ki hi beti hai na. Ashok ki bhi beti hai according to babita selfishness to khandani hai. Maa Baap dono se milti hai

I don't think either Mini or Babita were selfish in their conduct.. I am questioning the reasoning.. if Babita was selfish then according to Mini's logic, by default she too is selfish since she did not think about Khuranas either

Originally posted by: zehreeli.kheer

So who did Mini expect to take care of Khuranas when she went to Australia? Its not like she thought about them when she was submitting her application.. so does that make her selfish too? She wanted to take Khuranas and go away because things weren't going great with Hanuman Babita but when she submitted her application for Australia, did she think how Khuranas would be left on their own? Should she too be called selfish as when she wanted reassurance pf belonging to a family, she factored in Khuranas in her decision but when it came to her future, she did not spare them a thought?

Babita did take care of Khuranas and had a soft spot for them and loved them like her own.. it was not because she found Hanuman's love that she changed her stance towards them.. it was because Biji decided to side with Lovely when she was spoiling her wedding that Babita lost control.. it was then that she realized that no matter how much Seva she does, she would always be the outside in K family and they would always put Lovely before her which wasn't untrue

As for the soulmate saga, yes.. the equation was clear for three of them but not really to Babita or anyone else for that matter.. she did not want her daughter to ve seen as a third wheel in a relationship and that's not wrong.. was she wrong in calling hef Meeta? Definitely.. were her fears ungrounded? No

If you have seen earlier episodes which you may see because there will be a reawatch now. Why did babita scold mini when mini fought with biji not to influence babita and take her back into their house. Why did babita ask mini to return jewellery and fall at bijis feet and say sorry when mini fought with her over it. Why did she insist that she be good to them all the time. Suddenly after she gets married and gets a new life she wants mini not to help her grandparents with going to hospital. Some double standars in teaching children manners. Kabhi kuch to kabhi kuch.

And daadu beeji were always like this daadu supporting babita meekly and not being strong enough and beeji being the selfish one and expecting niceness only from babitas side. It's not tht they changed overnight that babita started hating them overnight. Babita loved and cared for them inspite of them being like this. She never really comunicated to them what she wanted. Never gave them a chance to see what she wanted. All that gave them a false impression that she was OK with everything. One fine day she decides to burst at them and blame them for not understanding her which was not wrong in her part. I actually loved it when she told them off. But she suddenly decides she dosent care for them that is also fine but she also decides mini should also not care for them.