What is star power?

"A star is someone who regardless of the type of film can guarantee you a day 1. After that its really about the film."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9_8lsySS6o

I just came across this video and thought it was relevant considering there have been a lot of discussions around the topic.

Would love to hear other people's views.

Which srk does not have anymore since last ten years...hence much lower day 01 compared to other khans and his films doing only 70-80 crores net lifetime despite crazy promotions.

On the other hand salman's few flops doing around 130-150 crores net which equals to srk's semi hits/hits in last few years.

This pretty much sums up the star power.

Also srk is the only one not having even a single 300 crores net till date, unlike more powerful than him salman, aamir and heck even Hrithik.

Lol

Does anyone really go to the theatres to see stars anymore ? Even on day one ? Doubt it

Preach. As said many times, star power is about the opening. Of course context matters. So many people here mistake star power for a lifetime of a movie. Lifetime was and has always been about the content barring some outliers. You know your star value on how much opening you can give when presented at your best.

BOI didn’t gaga over Tiger over baaghi 2’s lifetime collections. Even some Tom dick and Harry can have a good lifetime collection based on the movie’s content And wom. They got a hard on over how this yesteryear 5 film old kid opened a movie bumper-ish?!

Originally posted by: tanya_91

Which srk does not have anymore since last ten years...hence much lower day 01 compared to other khans and his films doing only 70-80 crores net lifetime despite crazy promotions.

On the other hand salman's few flops doing around 130-150 crores net which equals to srk's semi hits/hits in last few years.

This pretty much sums up the star power.

Also srk is the only one not having even a single 300 crores net till date, unlike more powerful than him salman, aamir and heck even Hrithik.

Lol

SRK has had a lot of huge openers in his career though. Raees and Zero both had 20cr openers despite clashes with other films. Zero was also a weird concept film. So I would still say he has some star power. But yeah he hasn't had the kind of openings Salman has had in the last few years. And that's probably why Salman gets paid a bit more per film too.

The thing about SRK though is that his world wide following is huge (probably more than the other stars). I think he the most iconographic Bollywood figure. So that adds to his advantage in other ways.

SRK doesn't have star power for the last 10 years???🤣

HNY in 2014 5 years back opened with 42 crores(Taran)...the highest opening at that time...

FAN opened at 20 cr...no actress , no song, weird concept and limited screens....CE in 2013 opened with 33 cr....except JHMS all other movies with CLASH opened at 20 cr +

Originally posted by: blue-ice.1

SRK doesn't have star power for the last 10 years???🤣

HNY in 2014 5 years back opened with 42 crores(Taran)...the highest opening at that time...

FAN opened at 20 cr...no actress , no song, weird concept and limited screens....CE in 2013 opened with 33 cr....except JHMS all other movies with CLASH opened at 20 cr +

Do you think Tanya's posts about SRK should be taken seriously??😆

Originally posted by: shogun

Preach. As said many times, star power is about the opening. Of course context matters. So many people here mistake star power for a lifetime of a movie. Lifetime was and has always been about the content barring some outliers. You know your star value on how much opening you can give when presented at your best.

BOI didn’t gaga over Tiger over baaghi 2’s lifetime collections. Even some Tom dick and Harry can have a good lifetime collection based on the movie’s content And wom. They got a hard on over how this yesteryear 5 film old kid opened a movie bumper-ish?!

I am replying to you because I know you go ga-ga over Baaghi2's numbers (over and over, everywhere you can 😆) and you are a Tiger fan.

He is a star kid who was heavily promoted and given tons of movie roles without having one ounce of acting ability(let's be honest)..and probably his dad fans/supporters transferred to him (see here : https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/bollywood/4078980/bequeathing-fame-star-kids-and-star-parents-shraddha-varun-tiger

..his family most likely funded his PR campaigns and supported his image, https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/bollywood/4571546/which-star-kids-would-not-be-in-bw-if-they-were-not-star-kids

so in in many ways he was below Varun's 'star power'.. if we want to call it that.

Baaaghi 2 was a sequel of a well received movie that was loved by single screens. And yes they had good opening.Many factors were involved in that, let's not pretend it was just Tiger. The actress, the subject and being a sequel of a loved action movie helped, too.

Do you honestly, hand on heart, think Tiger could pull a 300 cr without HR? Because I honestly don;t.

To this day his acting is bad but he's loved and gets good support as action guy.. Tiger indeed got lucky to 'fit the bill' , 'fill a slot' for this genre and single screen love him there, true..but he's not gonna be a Pacino type.. more like Schwarzenegger and Dolph Lundgren type hero..muscles, fights,action movie roles.. and nothing else to explain his success.

.... tell me where was his star power in his other movies beside his collab with HR onWar?

Was Flying Jatt good opening?

or the one this year? Student of Jumps..whatever?

Riiight...

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On topic : Star power is what goodwill stars accumulate from previous movies. If they find an audience that loves them, whether we call them bad or good actors..they get the audience to spend the money..so in a way anyone that 'clicks' with audiences gets that 'star power'.

Previously it was the Khans..HR..Akki..... then Ranbir and Ranveer gave good hits and are reaping benefits from those.Then Varun started doing well.. then Tiger..Khartik.

Ayushmann is right now the man that's quite loved by everyone..and Akki's unbeatable in bringing audiences to ANY movies of his.

SO I'd say they all have star power..some in acting talent, some in 'click with audiences'..some because they they sell tickets when starring in action based movies.

So there's different ways to view 'star power'.

WHo's in vogue today can be done in a few years if the audience turns against them..or the 'star' keeps offering duds.

Originally posted by: MoonOrchid

I am replying to you because I know you go ga-ga over Baaghi2's numbers (over and over, everywhere you can ) and you are a Tiger fan.

He is a star kid who was heavily promoted and given tons of movie roles without having one ounce of acting ability(let's be honest)..and probably his dad fans/supporters transferred to him..his family most likely funded his PR campaigns and supported his image, so in in many ways he was below Varun's 'star power'.. if we want to call it that. Baaaghi 2 was a sequel of a well received movie that was loved by single screens. And yes they had good opening.Many factors were involved in that, let's not pretend it was just Tiger. The subject and being a sequel of a loved movie helped

Do you honestly, hand on heart, think Tiger could pull a 300 cr without HR? Because I honestly don;t.

To this day his acting is bad but he's loved and gets good support as action guy.. Tiger indeed got lucky to 'fit the bill' , 'fill a slot' for this genre and single screen love him there, true..but he's not gonna be a Pacino type.. more like Schwarzenegger and Dolph Lundgren type hero..muscles, fights,action movie roles.. and nothing else to explain his success.

.... tell me where was his star power in his other movies beside his collab with HR onWar?

Was Flying Jatt good opening?

or the one this year? Student of Jumps..whatever?

Riiight...

Righttt...

Yeahhhh if a star kid being "heavily promoted" was actually the formula to success, then every tom, dick and harry star kid would be making it big eh. Either you connect with the audience or you don't. You wanna talk numbers and facts? Dude's first movie took the biggest opening day for a newcomer at that time with 6 crores. Second movie Baaghi 2 did 11 crores for opening day, more than Varun and John combined Dishoom that year. Was that a joke with the dad's supporters theory?! Do you know Jackie's 90s/ 2000s box office track record? In that theory, Abhishek Bachchan then would have been breaking opening day records with every movie back then seeing Big B's legion of fans. 90's biggest superstar Sunny Deol's son's movie wouldn't be at 1 crore. I can bring numerous other examples. So naa his opening day first-day crowd-pulling ability ain't a myth. Again, the lifetime collections of a movie isn't "star power".

You know what since you are a Ranveer fan. Let's bring up some apples to apple comparisons. Tiger's SOTY 2 (directed by Punit Malhotra whose last movies was a massive financial disaster) with newcomers with the shittest of audience reactions still took a 12 crore opening on IPL semi-finals. Better than one of THE biggest brand Aditya Chopra led befikre's 10 crore opening. Apples to apples seeing both the movies got trolled from the word go. Masala movie Simmba with THE hit machine Rohit Shetty directed and the very visibly spiritual sequel of the iconic Singam took a 20 crore opening day, less than the sequel Baaghi 2's opening 25 crores. Bringing up these specific movies up coz check off similar boxes. Apples to apples. I can put life savings that with Tiger that movie takes at least 30 crore day opening with Tiger. You really wanna compare their first 7 movies opening' side by side? I will let ya even adjust all the inflations and screen adjustments. Let's bring up even more facts trying to compare apples to apples. A cartoon Flying Jatt at 7 crores still opened better than the highest opening day of Ranveer without any A-list actress or director who carry some cache themselves ala Kill Dill. Funny, ain't it.

You keep talking about his lack of acting ability in every box office threads?! How is that relevant to anything number topics? Dude's carrying the opening day numbers working with z-grade supporting staff like directors in Ahmed Khan, Sabbir Khan, Remo and the only A-list actress would be considered Shraddha. God knows, never had any critical acclaim support. Now imagine if he had all that Ranveer Singh "acting talent" you keep referring to eh. Let's not even bring PR into this topic lol.

Originally posted by: shogun

Righttt...

Yeahhhh if a star kid being "heavily promoted" was actually the formula to success, then every tom, dick and harry star kid would be making it big eh. Either you connect with the audience or you don't. You wanna talk numbers and facts? Dude's first movie took the biggest opening day for a newcomer at that time with 6 crores. Second movie Baaghi 2 did 11 crores for opening day, more than Varun and John combined Dishoom that year. Was that a joke with the dad's supporters theory?! Do you know Jackie's 90s/ 2000s box office track record? In that theory, Abhishek Bachchan then would have been breaking opening day records with every movie back then seeing Big B's legion of fans. 90's biggest superstar Sunny Deol's son's movie wouldn't be at 1 crore. I can bring numerous other examples. So naa his opening day first-day crowd-pulling ability ain't a myth. Again, the lifetime collections of a movie isn't "star power".

You know what since you are a Ranveer fan. I am sure let's bring up some apples to apple comparisons. Tiger's SOTY 2 (directed by Punit Malhotra whose last movies was a massive financial disaster) with newcomers with the shittest of audience reactions still took a 12 crore opening on IPL semi-finals. Better than one of THE biggest brand Aditya Chopra led befikre's 10 crore opening. Apples to apples seeing both the movies got trolled from the word go. Masala movie Simmba with THE hit machine Rohit Shetty directed and the very visibly spiritual sequel of the iconic Singam took a 20 crore opening day, less than the sequel Baaghi 2's opening 25 crores. Bringing up these specific movies up coz check off similar boxes. Apples to apples. I can put life savings that with Tiger that movie takes at least 30 crore day opening with Tiger. You really wanna compare their first 7 movies opening' side by side? I will let ya even adjust all the inflations and screen adjustments. Let's bring up even more facts trying to compare apples to apples. A cartoon Flying Jatt at 7 crores still opened better than the highest opening day of Ranveer without any A-list actress or director. Funny, ain't it.

You keep preaching about his lack of acting ability in every box office threads?! How is that relevant to anything number topics? Dude's carrying the opening day numbers working with z-grade supporting staff like directors in Ahmed Khan, Sabbir Khan, Remo and the only A-list actress would be considered Shraddha. God knows, never had any critical acclaim support. Now imagine if he had all that Ranveer Singh "acting talent" you keep referring to eh. Let's not even bring PR into this topic lol.

You took all I wrote and reduced it to Tiger and HIS numbers vs Ranveer and HIS numbers?😆 (you brought Tiger and Baaghi2 in the topic... so I was replying to that, not sure why you had to take away just that from my reply.... and use who I am a fan of ...as your..'answer')😆

If you read very carefully, I never even denied he did good numbers- I actually mentioned them !...but there's a lot more beyond 'just Tiger' carrying the success of Baaghi 2.. otherwise why all his other movies - Jatt, Student -flopped?

Why the STAR Tiger couldn;t carry those, too?

Or is your answer that Tiger is a Dolph Lundgren/Schwarzenegger of BW and..that's that?

Still..you haven't replied to my question: hand on heart... you really think Tiger could have done a 300 cr movie without Hrithik?

Have fun!