Not father but we Love eachother - Page 2

Originally posted by: NimbuMirchi

Exactly. He didn’t “pretend” to be her father all the time to impress Babes.

What Hanuman told Babita is true. He called himself Mini’s Father on POOJA Day to assure Babita. In the room upstairs when Mini asks him to propose, he said.. are bol diya na tera Father. Ibb ke baki reh gaya propose karne mein.

So him declaring himself as Mini’s father was his way to propose.

Everybody is running with his words and not implying it in situation. Blaming him and calling him lattoo on Babita or whatever.

He loves Mini as daughter. May be more than that. But He and Mini never had that conversation. It’s the Gap, HS and Mini has to bridge. And since CD fiasco, they both are running away from it. Their insecurities have cropped up.

But Hanuman did not do everything for Mini that he did to impress Babita. He never said it!

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This is the problem, and the CVs are also playing with words to shock the audience and elicit such reactions, hence the TRP game. He was very clear in what he said to Babita, but as usual she jumped to conclusions and then went hyper remembering Kammo's words and insulted his love for Minnie. The fact that he mentions her in the same breath as Imarti should have told Babita something but no, she wants to rush them. They've barely known each other a year! Minnie's a teenager and HS has never been a parent, nor has he watched Minnie grow up so that he would know the micro details about her, which I keep saying he needs to focus on and he does.

I was saying since months ago, when things were 'fine' between them that there is still a gap between the two that will take time to bridge. There was never a conversation about it, which may have prevented a lot of the issues we see now, but even if there had been, these two would still have to make that journey. Minnie has a lot of repressed pain and angst because of Ashok, she never voiced them or talked about her own grief there since she was angry on behalf of Babita for her mother's suffering, rather than her own. As she becomes an adult, she misses that role model that one often sees in a father or father figure. She may not articulate it but she does think about Ashok and what could have been. The way she cried when Ashok had left said it all.

Babita doesn't make her feel like a child but HS does, and with her she can be the best version of herself. As Lala himself said, HS loves her more than just his daughter because it's not supposed to be conditional. She doesn't have his DNA but he chose her as family, the way he chose NB and Lala as his inner circle. When he said she was first, he meant it, and I'm sure if it came to that one day, he would prove it.

Also, HS cleared it with Babita during the depression track that he loved Minnie as his own daughter and not to misunderstand his intentions. He also mentioned that to his surprise, he grew attached to her in a short period of time because just like he is her hero, in some ways she is his, in the sense that her courage and conviction are traits he wished he had had as a child in order to protect his mother. That conversation between Minnie and him basically explained the nature of why they connect with each other, and as Minnie had told Pinku, they share a dard ka rishta too. God forgive any parent and child have to have rishta other than pyaar ka rishta, but these two bonded over that dimension too.

I don't care what sloppy writing we see nowadays, I refuse to believe it was all a sham or an intricate web of deceit. Neither HS nor Minnie are capable of that and don't need to either. He told Babita the other day that he had more to lose in this relationship because he would lose a friend, a daughter, and his last hope for survival. I am sure he wasn't lying or making this up.

Reading the responses in this thread is quite amusing😆

Koi HS ko blame kar raha hai, koi Mini ko.....lol characters ki expectations ko kya analyze karein jab logon ki hi expectations are so skewed and everyone is busy in a blame game.

The execution of the story is messed up these days but nowhere was it stated that HS didn't love Mini or that Mini doesn't love him.....so can we all stop trying to project about how supposedly Mini didn't want what he was giving her?🤔

I personally don't care about the baap-beti label.....all I cared about was seeing their level of interaction maintained....but thanks to HS ka over obsession in dealing with Babita, that has taken a hit.

Mini is a confused child....it still amazes me that people insinuate that she doesn't value HS enough🤔....itna expectation hai from a kid who's gone through broken relationships to automatically know how to work her way towards reconciling her issues with HS.....par HS se na expect karein being the adult in this relationship to step up when the kid falters.

Yes, HS has his baggage too....but at the end of the day, being a guardian, being a parent is about stepping up, not about expecting the child to manage YOUR emotional issues first.

And the writers need to better clarify the history of the HS-Mini relationship especially since these days, they only show HS expressing everything in context of how Babita is being made to view it....not from an overall storyline perspective.

Communication b/w HS-Mini is the need of the hour.

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

But HS did! It's why he wanted her to be welcomed into the Haveli as his daughter. He wanted to give her everything he never had. But if Minnie doesn't want it then can he really be blamed for it?

I don't think Minnie knows what she wants, because she never took the time to focus on her emotions and assess things for her own self.

The way she told Mickey and Preet that she had started to think of herself as HS' daughter told me that she had started to like the idea and when that role was 'snatched' away from her it broke her. She realized that she had needed to feel a father's love and protection after all, but the fact that HS didn't trust her made her feel that he might never be her father.

She has seen so much negative behavior from Ashok that subconsciously she has put the image of a 'real father' on a pedestal, so no one can match up to it, not even HS with all his goodness. She has grown up with Babita, so she knows all her flaws but still accepts her with them, still loves her. The day she feels this way towards HS, she will be able to fully accept him, because it's clear she has a long way to go before that.

As for HS, I still believe that it broke him when he realized (or thought he did) that she had not wanted him as her father as part of this marriage and that the connection he thought he had with her had possibly just been from his side. She "apparently" still wanted Ashok (as per the CD playing) or a father who matched the image in her mind, but not HS. Hence his anger and confusion. The execution was lousy but from his dialogues you could tell that he felt he had been a fool all along to think that he was her hero, he was indeed the best in her eyes, and that she looked up to him as a father figure. It destroyed his confidence, and HS without confidence is the lost soul we see these days. All that misunderstanding and the sautela tag hurt both HS and Minnie in a major way but they were unable to sort through their feelings.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Reading the responses in this thread is quite amusing😆

Koi HS ko blame kar raha hai, koi Mini ko.....lol characters ki expectations ko kya analyze karein jab logon ki hi expectations are so skewed and everyone is busy in a blame game.

The execution of the story is messed up these days but nowhere was it stated that HS didn't love Mini or that Mini doesn't love him.....so can we all stop trying to project about how supposedly Mini didn't want what he was giving her?🤔

I personally don't care about the baap-beti label.....all I cared about was seeing their level of interaction maintained....but thanks to HS ka over obsession in dealing with Babita, that has taken a hit.

Mini is a confused child....it still amazes me that people insinuate that she doesn't value HS enough🤔....itna expectation hai from a kid who's gone through broken relationships to automatically know how to work her way towards reconciling her issues with HS.....par HS se na expect karein being the adult in this relationship to step up when the kid falters.

Yes, HS has his baggage too....but at the end of the day, being a guardian, being a parent is about stepping up, not about expecting the child to manage YOUR emotional issues first.

And the writers need to better clarify the history of the HS-Mini relationship especially since these days, they only show HS expressing everything in context of how Babita is being made to view it....not from an overall storyline perspective.

Communication b/w HS-Mini is the need of the hour.

This is only what I want .

Originally posted by: shazam1

I don’t know why everyone is hung up on Minnie calling HS father. As long as there is mutual respect and love the tag doesn’t matter. I want their relationship to go back to the way it was title or not. I think the whole Baap tag- Sautela VS Real or original like Khatri says is the root of the problem. Everyone including Minnie expects HS to behave differently now he is “father” but then HS always treated Minnie nicely but he was never invested in her feelings 24/7- he had his good time with Lala and flirted with Babita. Now he is expected to read her mind, fix stuff which is just awkward- would be for anyone. If I had a tiff with someone and ppl around me forced me to make up by a certain date and time I would hate it. Let them take their time- No cliche “father” tags. An 18 year old doesn’t need a father, she needs a mentor and a friend.

I don't know which way the writer wants to go with this, but everyone is confused and as you said the tags are creating unnecessary pressure. Any relationship should develop organically, whether it's parent-child, mentor-student, friend, or just a civil relationship as mother's husband and wife's child. The most important thing is giving people time, not deadlines but this is where it's all messed up. NB's voiceover during the wedding pretty much summed it up. She, the wise woman, had foreseen a lot of this confusion. Before the wedding, HS and Minnie were just left to be themselves around each other but now they are bound by titles that do not have much meaning at this stage as they are both unsure of what to do.

Originally posted by: naq5

ok but after minis breakdown in front of her friends its not that she dint want it. She too wanted it. HS just assumed that she dint want it during CD fiasco. And if you see if mini has not gotten over CD fiasco even HS has not got over it. During that he thought mini dosent want him as father and even after his MU is resoled he still thinks the same and even mini thinks the same. so thinking wise both are at fault here. And HS being the one to doubt mini its more on him than mini here

They need a heart to heart conversation and a reset because both have misconceptions about the other that is hurting them at the end of the day.

One thing I’ve noticed is that PH are going back in time and kind of rewriting our perceptions

All the interactions between HS and Minnie led us to believe it was a friend/parent child relationship. She confided in HS as a friend and obeyed him like a daughter. So what happened ? Babita is what happened. I feel like she changed the dynamics of the budding relationship with her bipolar behaviour.

HS constantly needing to reassure Babes, having to say Minnie was his daughter even though he may not have fully understood what that entailed.

Then HS starts going on about attraction. So now the Ph have rewritten all those scenes by insinuating that HS felt attracted to Babes at first site ( he called out Babes for not calling him Bhai Saab but HS didn’t also call her behen ji)

Sooo now what does all this mean? Are we getting insight into HS mind and perspective regarding his feelings for Babes since day one ? Was indeed all that stuff he did for Minnie strictly fatherly or was a small part of him also trying to impress Babes?

It’s one thing the PH are effing with the present story line but now past intentions are being skewed by them also

Originally posted by: Hannie_Fan

This is only what I want .

They won't give it to you easily😆.....and I'm not even sure if they will bother giving it at all.

These days the focus is all on Babita in her lala land of pati ka pyar, clueless about the real world as always and HS is busy doing joru ki ghulami......

Is sab mein HS-Mini ka bas random angst hi dikhaayenge....writers are not interested in giving them meaningful scenes these days....bas filler scenes hi hote hain.

Point is, don't let the mess that is being shown now invalidate the history of HS-Mini....none of this takes away from what they've shared.

They will get one good convo some day where they will express the confusions in their mind/heart....wait for that epi and that scene.....baaki toh filler drag chalta rahega.....lol

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

But HS did! It's why he wanted her to be welcomed into the Haveli as his daughter. He wanted to give her everything he never had. But if Minnie doesn't want it then can he really be blamed for it?

No one is to blame but no one should be pressured. These things will take time but they need to talk to each other properly. HS apologized to her but she didn't speak her heart out about how she felt so they have called it a truce for now. What she told her friends and the audience is her true state of mind that HS is unaware of. Worst of all, we don't know any of what HS has been thinking since the CD fiasco. We've tried guessing and speculating but he hasn't expressed the reason for his hurt to Minnie, which I would have preferred he did during the apology scene. She would have understood, I think.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

They won't give it to you easily😆.....and I'm not even sure if they will bother giving it at all.

These days the focus is all on Babita in her lala land of pati ka pyar, clueless about the real world as always and HS is busy doing joru ki ghulami......

Is sab mein HS-Mini ka bas random angst hi dikhaayenge....writers are not interested in giving them meaningful scenes these days....bas filler scenes hi hote hain.

Point is, don't let the mess that is being shown now invalidate the history of HS-Mini....none of this takes away from what they've shared.

They will get one good convo some day where they will express the confusions in their mind/heart....wait for that epi and that scene.....baaki toh filler drag chalta rahega.....lol