Don't know: ajao saray - Page 13

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

I'm fcking done with Minnie. The mere audacity she has for saying something like this to her own mother is unbelievable! I can't believe she blamed her own mother as being partially responsible for her own abuse. If Babita had spoken up, then what would have come out of it? Would that have made the Khuranas to stop treating her horribly? If anything, it would have given Lovely more ammunition for her taunts and misbehavior.

And how are we forgetting that Minnie was LIVING with them. Did she not see how they treated her??? What the fckkk 🤬

I am hoping HS hears Minnie shouting at her and disciplines her, but I guess that won't happen since he's at work.

Originally posted by: naq5

Agree to this. Babes outburst was only because of the pent up things in her mind which she never told because she wanted to be an ideal bahu & wife. if she would have spoken up earlier in a nice way im sure the Sr ks would have taken note of it specially dadu. i have no hopes from biji though. they are not bad people like ashok or khatri or even lovely

but Sr Ks are basically selfish people who will choose their own kids over mini too. when they had ashok & mini with them they dint bother how babita & mini survived. they only wished for mini & babitas wellbeing but did noting about it. beji was so selfish in asking jewellery back. And mini was the one who replied back to her & babita forced her to say sorry. Now i dont understand minis sudden concern for daadu beji that she is ready to leave babes and go and live with them in another house. i agree hs is there for babita now. But was minis love for babita only a responsibility till she found someone in her life to take care of. Dosent she love her to want to be with her like most children do. did she think of how babita will feel if she leaves her and goes. i feel mini is going overboard in her love for dadu beeji

She's on savior mode again. Now that she no longer has to feel responsible for Babes, her attention is on them. It started the day of the wedding. Irfan's words just added tadka.

Originally posted by: NimbuMirchi

He ripped apart her character. That was a major blow.

He repeated what Ashok, Khatri and Her own Brother accused her of. That she is characterless women for staying with single guy and has affair with him.

It came from someone she after lot of internal struggle came to trust again. From someone she came to love again even after her trust in Love was crushed. She dared to hope again after going thru hopeless months. She showed courage to accept her desires which she buried deep down somewhere.

And yet, all of this was crumbled by the same men who helped her stand on her own.

It was not a mistake. It was a gunah. It wasn’t her ego that everyone around her kept terming it as. I didn’t agree with when NB said pyar mein gunah bhi maaf. Nope sorry. You can’t rip apart lady’s character you claim to love. I also didn’t agree with Hanuman when he said, usne bhi boli hai mujhse baatein, mene to bura na lagaya. Sorry but Babita has never accused you of being characterless. Whatever she had had said, doesn’t compare with what you did.

Brushing this aside was the biggest mistake writers did.

Agree they should have pick another event for Babes ego track & a character like HS who claimed to be feminist shouldn't have said thode words at first place & there should be proper apology too..It's so silly babes forgive him like that

Originally posted by: NimbuMirchi

But Babita will be guilt tripped into it. Mini’s outburst suggests that in the precap.

So it’s not her decision really.

Not necessarily. As long as Babita doesn't stop Minnie from keeping ties with her grandparents, I thin her decision is fine. Minnie has to understand that.

I just hope HS and she don't get into fights over Minnie again. I need a break from this.

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

What I didn't like is that he needed to be asked for an apology. He knew what he was saying and the kind of effect it would have on her. Did he really think that she would let this slide?

As soon as this Imarti stuff was over, he should have gone to her and apologized himself. It shouldn't have been coaxed out of him.

and when babita asked for an apology it was called her ego, which will apparently ruin her life one day.

during the uptan ceremony, HS said on phone he understood her pain, hurt and anger, but again he told NB that babita would break the relation becaused of her ego.

this was actually the worst part ever, worse than when HS said everything to babita.

Originally posted by: inlieu

I know she will do the right thing, which is often the harder option to take. I would expect nothing less from her.

Just think about it, she was married to an abusive guy, then became widowed. Lost a daughter when Imarti died, was then widowed and living on her own because her own kids don't seem to look after her or send her money or even visit. She hasn't seen her grandson in ages but was willing to let Irfan go so far so that he could make his own life. She's been more than a mother to HS, but in all this she has been a lonely woman. Now that the Khuranas are living with her, she also has some company chatting with people in her age group. Renting the place out gives her a chance to have some people around and helps a little bit with finances.

@bold, aise mat bolo yaar. It's aching me just to think about it. I don't know when I got so attached to her but ever since Irfan showed up, I've been feeling these pangs.

This is another reason why the Khurana's aren't Babita's responsibility. Naeem Bi took it up on herself to take care of them. The Khuranas themselves were looking to find someplace else to stay but she's the one who stopped them. So at the end of the day, this issue should be resolved between Irfan and his Ammi. There's no need to get Babita involved in all of this.

Originally posted by: naq5

Agree to this. Babes outburst was only because of the pent up things in her mind which she never told because she wanted to be an ideal bahu & wife. if she would have spoken up earlier in a nice way im sure the Sr ks would have taken note of it specially dadu. i have no hopes from biji though. they are not bad people like ashok or khatri or even lovely

but Sr Ks are basically selfish people who will choose their own kids over mini too. when they had ashok & mini with them they dint bother how babita & mini survived. they only wished for mini & babitas wellbeing but did noting about it. beji was so selfish in asking jewellery back. And mini was the one who replied back to her & babita forced her to say sorry. Now i dont understand minis sudden concern for daadu beji that she is ready to leave babes and go and live with them in another house. i agree hs is there for babita now. But was minis love for babita only a responsibility till she found someone in her life to take care of. Dosent she love her to want to be with her like most children do. did she think of how babita will feel if she leaves her and goes. i feel mini is going overboard in her love for dadu beeji

Their only son basically told them they were a nuisance and Sr K had to break his FD to help pay for his wife’s bills ...so financially what could they do to help them?

Also I think it was explained why Beeji asked for the jewelry back .. I recall her angrily throwing at back at Ashok...she didn’t want to do it but felt she had to given what was going on in the house

Yes the Khurannas are not perfect but neither is Babes ...they both kind of are to blame for part of their situation

I just felt that the way Babes told them off... all the blame was put on them and she sort of absolved herself of any responsibility/wrong doings ..which ain’t right

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

What I didn't like is that he needed to be asked for an apology. He knew what he was saying and the kind of effect it would have on her. Did he really think that she would let this slide?

As soon as this Imarti stuff was over, he should have gone to her and apologized himself. It shouldn't have been coaxed out of him.

Well he said — usne bhi mujhe baatein boli hai. Manne to bura na lagaya.

He totally brushed it aside.

Even NB said to Bahita - pyar mein Gunah bhi maaf.

Nope sorry. Disagree with both NB and HS. You can’t rip apart lady’s character and dignity you claim to love and expect to be forgiven without asking.

Same with HS. Babita has never questioned his character. He basically called her characterless woman for showing interest in paraya mard.

Originally posted by: NimbuMirchi

He was wrong in making Imarti do seva of his Bapu. Whom he hated, was responsible for his mother’s tortures life and early demise.

And Mini is wrong again to expect Babita to put up with it. HS even suggesting something for Mini’s is wrong again.

If he asks Babita to take care of NB, I would agree to that. Not the people who abused you or stood by when you were being abused. I don’t believe sympathy based on age factor. You reap what you sow. It’s khuranas Karma that they are in this place. I know it’s cold to say that. But you do all wrong your whole life and then hide behind old age excuse doesn’t not settle well with me.

People need motivation to do better in life and when we see bad people getting good treatment, our faith in doing good deeds gets shaken.

I have the same opinion as you, that Babita has no compulsion to be mahaan by overlooking the Khuranas' past deeds. Just like she forgave Meeta of her own accord but didn't forgive Ashok, it's her call what she does with the Khuranas.

I want HS' issues with his father and his complicated relationship to be brought up. I think it will at some point in all these discussions about the Khuranas, especially considering what NB had said about HS looking after his father.

As I said in a previous post, it's fine to respect bade buzurg, par jab bade apna badappan bhool jate hein to woh izzat ke haqdaar nahin rehte. On humanitarian grounds, it's fine to help them with their physical/financial needs but that doesn't mean they deserve the affection and care as apne.

Originally posted by: naq5

have you seen the very first few episodes. dadu beeji did not torture her. they behaved like typical in laws though for whom their khoon comes first and the Dil is only DiL . but if you see that is the scene in most typical indian joint families even the modern ones.

secondly one cannot stop asking for your rights or for your daughters just because someone is taunting you. mini wanted to speak to ashok about taking them with him to london when babes stopped her saying 'no daadu beeji need us we are doing this as a sacrifice together as it is not easier for your dad too living alone, and you will not speak to your dad about it'. So not asking to go with ashok was babitas decision. she had a misconception that she and ashok were sacrificing for the betterment of their family

No I didn't. I started watching the show when HS made his entry. But regardless, there's a whole 17 years of history that we are unaware about. We've only heard how they've treated her, not seen it ourselves. From the little that we have seen, it's apparent that despite their talks, they have never considered her to be their daughter. She has always either just been a DIL or the woman who gave birth to their grandchild.

That was the misconception that she lived seventeen years of her life with. She fooled herself into believing it as it would have been better than accepting the fact that she's completely alone and has, in some respects, being abandoned and neglected by her husband. If she even had let Minnie question Ashok, do you really think he would have given her a decent answer in a civilized manner? I can just see him flaring up and raising his hand on her again. Especially considering the fact that at that time, Minnie was ready to lash out on everyone around her, and angrily point accusations on them, rather than speaking to them calmly.