Sanjivani 2 forum: Chat club #2 - Page 19

Heya @Kavya diii, well I can't say much about Dr Rishab till now he came like a villain without cause, a guy who ran after greed and looked at money as if it was his salvation. A guy who can't skip a chance to earn money no matter which way though don't residents have fixed salary and extra salary for over times like they'll get this much so I don't know how all those tests and all are helping his salary???

But then the matter with his dad, him not asking him to call him son in the premises of hospital, his disregard to everyone on the same standard as him and below him shows he is a materialistic man. Who thinks money is the solution to everything then again this also maybe due to his childhood. I don't think his condition was any better than Sid and so he has seen property as close as Sid and those denied wishes, cravings and everything related has built this man who can't see anything before money and prestige not even family and relationships.

Then his shame on having a waiter as a father can be due to his peers and friend circle in school and college. He maybe a scholarship student and have find friends with rich students who brags about parents and he felt so ashamed introducing his father to those people. He feels ashamed he a doctor has a waiter as a father, a waiter who works in the same hospital as him. He is embarrassed of his father and can't accept him or see his sacrifices and how he is the reason he is a doctor today or there can be some other story too behind his actions.

Still now he is a man who sees his chances to go more up, have more money and build a comfortable life for himself and forget his devastating and embarrassing childhood. He is a good doctor as even Dr Sid mentioned but still not a good human. He is a doctor not a life saver as he is biased and inclined towards his benefits even while treating patient with that rich girl he didn't really try with all his heart diagnosing her problem as her regular visits were helping him but what about the side effects of all the drugs on her body which he prescribed to her. Our DNA is a very volatile thing and all those drugs could easily cause some kind of mutation or other side effect in her body as the binding sites of those drugs will be affecting some hormones or other secretion that our body is producing to relieve her from the pain and all.

@sona hey can you make a sidisha vm on song tumhe jo Maine dekha, tumhe jo Maine jana jo Hosh tha voh bhi kho gya this song is from the movie mai hoon na if I'm not wrong

Unfortunately we don't live in an idealistic world. We just have to choose the lesser evil. If they are indeed using funds from Luxury ward for the general ward patients, what's wrong in that. Atleast it is better than what Sid was doing by suggesting unnecessary surgeries to his patients. Sanjivani cannot run in losses. If it is indeed in losses and bankrupt then the hospital would shut down automatically.

Originally posted by: surabhi01

Vardhaan is definitely playing with poor patient life because

He has changed almost all general ward into luxury ward and I gave example of sid sister how he changed priority of recipient then indeed he is playing with poor patient

For sanjavni to cover up loss there was no need to turn general ward into luxury Ward. This is wrong

Erm.. dude if you see the episode then you will realise that Vardhan wanted to convert all but one General ward to luxury ward, but he was stopped by Dr. Shashank who only gave half. The he agreed to give some profit; 15% of the luxury ward profit if I remember correctly to the General ward. I don't see why converting General ward to luxury ward is playing with people's lives.

And that changing the transplant list because one of the patient is rich and the other is poor is wrong ; I fully and wholeheartedly agree with you on that one. However, changing the transplant lists and building luxury ward are two different things. Don't mix two different unrelated things together.

And dude.. the luxury ward doesn't mean that the poor is being sacrificed. It just means they give their services and facilities and charged the rich accordingly.

And real report

was not worst than fake report. Real report actually show that sanjavni was not in loss even Dr juhi question about this to vardhaan but vardhaan succeed to manipulate them

Dr. Shashank and Dr. Juhi look at the real report with their own eyes. They saw that Sanjivani is suffering lost. If they can't read the reports or do not know how to then they should call the finance and accountants people. All you need to do is see the episode; if you're still adamant in saying reports is fake and are results of manipulations then I'm at lost of words.

And I don't believe that second hand machine can be just six months older may be more than 5 year older because if machine is good then it can run for more than 5 years and if there any internal damage in machine it can be repair with in warrany period

No one will sell new machine just after 6 month and suppose one has need to sell new machine just after 6 month that means that means will have just cheap quality part that is why it cannot be run more than 6 year or may be that machine from local company

Hey.. I'm curious.. did you even see the episode? Unless the opposite will be shown in future track that Vardhan is lying about the span of time of the second hand machines or there will be a flashback of conspiracies between Vardhan and the hospital that is selling the machine; the current situation is they're buying machine that is only 6 months old from a hospital that is shutting down and had to sell their machines at a discounted price. It is logical for a company that is shutting down to sell their valuable assets to make up for the losses. Unless the otherwise is shown in future track what you believe or do not believe is not relevant here.

And Dr rishabh is doing is what vardhaan is saying

More over vardhaan is not going to test patient with machine to use to koi farak nahi padega kyoki machine to vardhaan ko to use karni nahi hai

It is Dr shashank will use machine to farak to Dr shashank ko padega

Second hand machine utna acha performance nahi de paayengi jitna new machine

Yes, if that's an old 5 years machines; this machines they're buying are only 6 months old though. It's still new and cutting edge. What's so difficult to understand about the fact that's only 6 months old at a half price?

My point is sanjavni is not at all lose

Watch the episode again then you will know it is a lose or not a lose.

Just to get his work done want to give more importance to rich patient he use such cunning trick

He wants to make luxury ward to give importance to rich patient but with out any reason he can't make luxury ward so he just prepare fake reason just because there is loss that is why he is asking to make luxury ward but that is not actually so. His actually reason to have luxury ward just time give importance to rich patient

He actually think ki if more and more rich patient and less patient will come then hospital will get good reputation

That's ridiculous.. if the hospital get more rich patient they can charge them more and have more money for the hospital. If both the rich and poor go to the General ward then they'd have to charge both the rich and the poor the same amount of money. If the rich goes to luxury ward they can charge the rich twice or thrice the price they're charging the poor. The poor will go to the General ward where they will get treatment and charge the General ward price.

Originally posted by: wingnutx

Okay, I think you're not familiar with Indian medical structure mainly no hospital in India is on losses if you check the doctor patient ratio in India you'll get that fact straight.

I know that no hospital in India is at a losses; this is Sanjivani, a fictional hospital in India, who is acting like a charity instead of a real hospital. This is two different cases here; it is also irrelevant to one another and simply cannot be mixed.

I mean in real life situation Dr. Shashank's tumour will not be operated in that manner by Dr. Juhi. Nobody opens up a person like that and thinks of course of actions and plans after opening a person's up; those are done pre-Ops. Yet, it happened anyways. Can we say that that's the Indian's way of surgery?

And for Dr Sid and Dr Rishab, I mainly pointed out that ventilator case, leaving scissors in patient stomach, problem in one kidney operating another kidney, leaving dead patient in ventilator and extorting money from them that type of cases in hospitals cause their ruins and with Sid suggesting surgery that happens all the time. Its depends on patients body stamina and how many surgery the body could withstand in the time period and I'm saying this from personal experience, also age factors plays major role in that so even what Dr Sid did suggested to Natasha it won't cause any major damage to hospital.

Surgeon loves to cut; that's true. Surgeon suggesting surgery is normal because it's their job; also true. However, the main point is not Dr. Sid suggesting surgery; the main point is Dr. Sid is suggesting unnecessary surgery. Which part of unnecessary is so difficult to understand? Just because it is coming from Dr. Sid suddenly it is okay? Also, dude as someone who have had surgery before; I know how hard and long is the recovery process. There is tissue damage every on every surgery; there is always possibility of complications; not to mention it surgery hurts very much! And mine is only a minor surgery. Surgery is not needed yet Dr. Sid is giving recommendations for the patients just because they have extra cash in their pockets. And you're telling me that it's okay because they're young, they still have stamina, they have the money, and it won't case a major damage for Sanjivani's reputation? Wow.. bravo, bravo 👏👏

Dr sid takes money for his time but he has never denied treating any patient whether he is rich or poor,so all the things of Dr Sid playing with rich patients life is untrue and that liver transplant case the rich patient on medical basis and ethics wasn't fit to have that liver transplant but he got it all thanks to Vardhan and he ain't even a doctor and has no knowledge what is right for lives and what's wrong yet he took that decision and again the age factor matters in this case too.

Of course he never denied treating the rich patient. He's just giving unnecessary recommendations and tests and taking tips and extra money and playing with people's life as if he's God. Where is the ethics in that?

Well, what's wrong with Sanjivani and India as a whole? How could a CFO who has no experience in the medical field be given a the rights and authorities to distribute organs? That decisions should be the organ donor banks or the very least chief of Staffs or the chief of surgery. Which only shows how ineffective is Sanjivani's management. Again as the CEO what had Dr. Shashank been doing?

P.s : I'm not taking Sid's side or shielding his actions, I'm against those acts too but everyone saying he doesn't care for his rich patient is wrong he takes money from them but then he gives them his time and services too from what I've seen till now.

He's just the same as Dr. Rishabh when it comes to the rich. Both gave time and services for the rich and ripped them off. The only difference is Dr. Rishabh doesn't attend to the poor; which makes him the more evil of the two.

Yes, it depends on patients whether he wants to attend govt hospital or private or semi govt and like our dear Itv is showing poor or middle class people dont at all attend such kind of hospitals. So, if they're trying to show what a great help Sanjivani is doing to them then they're fundamentally wrong if they really want to show that then they should have shown a govt hospitals and the condition of doctors, residents and interns there. It would have been enlightening for everyone and I'm also saying from personal experience that in the Sanjivani type hospital the general ward is just for name, a small ER where the poor dies and the family members cries and I've seen that happening in front of my eyes and can't ever just forget that scene. The helplessness, the wails and blood and the ER just at the extreme corner even behind the canteen and towards the back entry of hospital told the story of how much the poor are tolerated in those hospital. The front automatic glass door and receptionist never greeted those patients and their family neither the nurses or wardboys cared for their needs. The suffocating room to small and congested in comparison to the grand rooms in the whole hospital with the best doctors in the city. Doctors who had forgotten their oaths, doctors for whom money matters more than life.

Originally posted by: KootyPai

Unfortunately we don't live in an idealistic world. We just have to choose the lesser evil. If they are indeed using funds from Luxury ward for the general ward patients, what's wrong in that. Atleast it is better than what Sid was doing by suggesting unnecessary surgeries to his patients. Sanjivani cannot run in losses. If it is indeed in losses and bankrupt then the hospital would shut down automatically.

Finally! Someone who sees sense! Thank you very much.

Sanjavni is not suffering from loss. Vardhaan has present fake report of loss. It is Dr sid who went to accountant room and take out original sheet from computer and in that original sheet it give information that sanjavni, was not at loss and going to show original sheet to Dr shashank and Dr juhi

But unfortunately when Dr sid going to show original sheet then vardhaan already see Dr sid going to show original sheet so vardhaan was scare so vardhaan prepared answer for it and successfully manipulate him

I will again say sanjavni is not in loss

Yes I have seen episode and that is why I am saying this sanjavni is not at loss

In one of episode vardhaan is discussing to someone ( that person to whom vardhaan promise that if Dr shashank died that he will make him CEO) that is yahan ki Jo bhi general ward ke board ko remove kar denge ko aur denge aur general ward ko luxury ward mein badal denge so vardhaan is definitely playing with life of poor patient

If vardhaan don't want to play with life of poor patient then why he changed almost all general ward into luxury ward? Why he didn't not ask consrtuct new room for luxury ward

Why he only needs general ward to convert him into luxury ward

I think u need to watch episode again

And I will again say new machine is far better than second hand machine

Here is link where roniit roy say vardhaan is negative character

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/150837497

Originally posted by: surabhi01

Sanjavni is not suffering from loss. Vardhaan has present fake report of loss. It is Dr sid who went to accountant room and take out original sheet from computer and in that original sheet it give information that sanjavni, was not at loss and going to show original sheet to Dr shashank and Dr juhi

But unfortunately when Dr sid going to show original sheet then vardhaan already see Dr sid going to show original sheet so vardhaan was scare so vardhaan prepared answer for it and successfully manipulate him

I will again say sanjavni is not in loss

Yes I have seen episode and that is why I am saying this sanjavni is not at loss

In one of episode vardhaan is discussing to someone ( that person to whom vardhaan promise that if Dr shashank died that he will make him CEO) that is yahan ki Jo bhi general ward ke board ko remove kar denge ko aur denge aur general ward ko luxury ward mein badal denge so vardhaan is definitely playing with life of poor patient

If vardhaan don't want to play with life of poor patient then why he changed almost all general ward into luxury ward? Why he didn't not ask consrtuct new room for luxury ward

Why he only needs general ward to convert him into luxury ward

I think u need to watch episode again

And I will again say new machine is far better than second hand machine

In the original report it was given that Sanjivani is in losses and even bigger losses than Vardhan had shown them. Unless they show Vardjan had really manipulated the reports in the future episodes, he is doing the right thing. But until now they haven't shown such a thing

I think u need to watch episode again vardhaan has indeed given fake report of loss

Then Dr sid decided to find out origina balance l sheet of sanjavni and he even take out original sheet from computer and that original sheet show that sanjavni was not at loss and Dr sid going to show that original sheet to Dr shashank and Dr juhi

But unfortunately before Dr sid going to show original sheet , vardhaan already see Dr sid that he going to show original sheet so vardhaan was scare so vardhaan already prepared answer to it and successfully manipulate Dr juhi and Dr shashank

When Dr sid himself take sheet directly from accountant computer which show sanjavni is not at loss so in what way sanjavni is not at loss

Taking out original ba sheet which show sanjavni is notat loss from accountant computer is not solid proof that sanjavni is not at loss?