The basic unanswered question - Page 7

Originally posted by: AreYaar

You know what’s sad? That they brought me to the point to resent him for this. Otherwise it would be such a touching, emotional thing to feel for a character....years of loneliness finally ending as he experiences love and affection from a woman again. Like a catharsis...

Instead it was used as a wedge issue....muddled up in Babita ke hang ups and total neglect of the child who has been remarkably mature in this phase.

They brought me to the point of feeling resentment for this so called marital bliss rather than feeling happy for him and Babita.

I said this two days back also. Nothing can be enjoyed at the cost of neglecting HS and Mini’s relationship. But writers insist on taking it that route 🤷‍♀️

Yeh bhi nahin expect kar sakte ki they are doing this to show Babita stepping up to get them together. Woh toh hone se raha in 100 Janams 🙄😂

@bold, frankly speaking I think this is the bit that bothers me the most, that they are wringing us dry but to what end?

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold: The wedding track has definitely proven this to be the case.

It’s kinda sad....they didn’t need to be a perfect father daughter in order to start discovering and accepting each other. They could have just accepted the label for now and learnt the meaning of it through different challenges....instead it’s all been wiped out 🤷‍♀️....new audience kya samjhengi is Bond ko without the context and build up? Sigh

As for TRPs...yeah I’m not surprised...it was a wedding and shock based drama....guaranteed TRP bait, so not surprising that it rose.

Baaki they are still watchable despite the TRP gimmicks so I guess that is all we can work with for now🤷‍♀️😂

And this is what often happens when you "adopt" children, especially grown up ones whose childhood you haven't seen. Since you don't know them from their newborn days, you haven't seen how they developed over the years, so you need to make that journey of understanding what makes them tick, what kind of people they are and let the bond gradually develop.

I think HS overestimated their relationship in some ways, maybe in some ways over-simplified what it means to be father-daughter. He didn't take long to accept Minnie as his own but that doesn't mean she has to feel this way, sooner or ever. I also think that the way they bonded over Imarti automatically made her closer to him but in some ways part of that was her giving back to him for all the times he stood by her. The line between pyaar and ehsaan is still blurred for her in terms of how she sees him.

As I said, if she never accepts him as her father that is her choice, her wish. We can't hold that against her, and neither can he. That should not stop him from loving her and caring for her as a father. He may not have the right or the authority but perhaps she needs to not be so hung up over labels and titles and just be.

Pffft. I give up.

Originally posted by: inlieu

@bold, frankly speaking I think this is the bit that bothers me the most, that they are wringing us dry but to what end?

Million dollar question that none of us have the answer to

It’s not like all of us are in a hurry to get to some conclusion but the journey is also not enjoyable when out of character traits are dragged on as they have for HS this time 🤷‍♀️

I honestly feel despite the controversy over Babita’s behavior, the Jhumka and Poonam issues were resolved with way more emotional satisfaction. Even HS’s mean words from that time were given more justification than whatever this CD drama was that totally dissipated without being addressed 🤷‍♀️🙄

Originally posted by: inlieu

And this is what often happens when you "adopt" children, especially grown up ones whose childhood you haven't seen. Since you don't know them from their newborn days, you haven't seen how they developed over the years, so you need to make that journey of understanding what makes them tick, what kind of people they are and let the bond gradually develop.

I think HS overestimated their relationship in some ways, maybe in some ways over-simplified what it means to be father-daughter. He didn't take long to accept Minnie as his own but that doesn't mean she has to feel this way, sooner or ever. I also think that the way they bonded over Imarti automatically made her closer to him but in some ways part of that was her giving back to him for all the times he stood by her. The line between pyaar and ehsaan is still blurred for her in terms of how she sees him.

As I said, if she never accepts him as her father that is her choice, her wish. We can't hold that against her, and neither can he. That should not stop him from loving her and caring for her as a father. He may not have the right or the authority but perhaps she needs to not be so hung up over labels and titles and just be.

Pffft. I give up.

He has definitely oversimplified it, no doubt.

I don’t care if she never considers him a proper father but can they atleast go back to the haq of Veer Balika and Hanuman Uncle? 🙏😔

All this put on behavior, hiding things from each other, lack of blunt honesty between them is bothering me big time ....

Writers can keep doing their TRP drama on the side with Babita tantrums. In dono ko baksh do please 🙏

Originally posted by: AreYaar

He has definitely oversimplified it, no doubt.

I don’t care if she never considers him a proper father but can they atleast go back to the haq of Veer Balika and Hanuman Uncle? 🙏😔

All this put on behavior, hiding things from each other, lack of blunt honesty between them is bothering me big time ....

Writers can keep doing their TRP drama on the side with Babita tantrums. In dono ko baksh do please 🙏

+1

Hi people... I have just introduced myself on the other thread🙂🙃 so I 've been thinking about Minnie and HS and kind of think now that it is quite natural she is not ready to have a "father" yet... Cause she doesn't even know what that could mean. She never had one and I can't remember whether Preet or anyone else could have given her a true idea why a father is so important in one's life, esp for girls. So this relation must be one-sided by default. Maybe dome times it is more difficult if one has a label to a relation, because then expectations come with it, but could you want a relation full or mutual expectations, if you are unsure what that entails? Maybe this is a stupid assumption, but I'm kind of tired and can't convey it better 🤔🙂

Originally posted by: inlieu

+1

And I forgot to add one thing.....your point about pyar v/s ehsaan....it could be some of that but honestly, some of their earliest scenes showed that she started to rely on him as a guardian figure....the reciprocity in terms of "ehsaan" or whatever came later on during the Imarti track when she wanted to give back the support that he had given them so many times....it didn't feel like an obligation to return that support......she gave it to him because she loves him.

The biggest sticking point is the pooja when he declared himself her father.....she at that point was still mainly hoping he would step up to propose to Babita.....when he declared himself her father, she looked happy.....not just for what it meant in context of Babita but she looked happy for herself.....but the writers have conveniently negated all of that now😕😆

This was her expression when HS declared himself her father.....

Will the writers hark back to this scene whenever or IF they ever show HS introspecting about Mini?

The writers actually seem confused about whether they want to tackle this on a one on one level b/w HS and Mini working out the issue vis a vis the father-daughter label or they want to make this about HS struggling to find his place in mother-daughter's world.....it's like they are latkoing in b/w both paths right now🤔

I had hoped mother-daughter would be made to realize they are too consumed in their own world and need to expand it to allow HS into it but that also doesn't seem like it's gonna happen.....oh well.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

hoped mother-daughter would be made to realize they are too consumed in their own world and need to expand it to allow HS into it but that also doesn't seem like it's gonna happen.....oh well.

I noticed too, since the imarti track they haven’t shown any scenes where Babes or Minnie have gone to HS for anything. Earlier they needed his advice or some support but now they are self sufficient. They have to show some track where they are a family unit- right now everyone is fighting their own demons. Didn’t get the family feel since the last NB terrace scene.

Originally posted by: shazam1

I noticed too, since the imarti track they haven’t shown any scenes where Babes or Minnie have gone to HS for anything. Earlier they needed his advice or some support but now they are self sufficient. They have to show some track where they are a family unit- right now everyone is fighting their own demons. Didn’t get the family feel since the last NB terrace scene.

I agree....and I wonder what that track would be....quite likely it would involve one of them falling ill or in a life threatening situation....that tends to brush aside all differences and unite families.

Is Babita really self-sufficient though? lol she herself stopped approaching HS to share things with him even though she still had plenty of emotional hang-ups.....Mini has Mickey now to talk to so still understandable on her end.....but Babita also not sharing those long chats with HS anymore unless he made the effort....that created an imbalance.....let's see if things shift in the coming days again.

Word on the NB terrace scene being the last time the trio were in their element together....dunno what it will take to bring them back to that level again.

I miss Mini teasing HS freely as well....she holds back from him now on that front too even though she's happy that him and Babita have sorted out their issues.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Yes, this is what I've been feeling too. He wouldn't have been able to tell her what was hurting him if he didn't feel that connection with her still.

He's trying to do his best in the area that he thinks is within his control, being Babita's husband, since he thinks there's a boundary he cannot step over with regards to Minnie and her lack of needing him as a father.

I really don't blame him for taking out few days for himself and his feelings. From the last one year he has been doing everything possible to keep Minnie and her mother happy even if he had to face the ire of mother-daughter. Even when he was going through terrible pain in the Imarti track, he made efforts to keep them safe and away from himself. So I will cut him some slack here.

As for his parenting Minnie, he has played both father and mothers role many times in past year . He has understood Minnie where Babitha failed to do so as evident from depression track. While Babitha was clueless about what to do, HS clearly knew what could bring her out of depression. That says something.

Yes, he knows nothing about Minnie beyond her facade but whatever he knows is much more than Babitha like he could see the embarrassment on her face on being called to accompany them on honeymoon. He will improve with time.

As of him becoming her father, first Minnie needs to trust him for herself, not only for her mother. She has to open up to him and let him in . He has let her in to every corner of his heart , I hope she does too. He has to gain her trust in this area.

As for now, he knows she is happy with her mother's happiness and he is already making every attempt to ensure that. In doing that he is also getting some happiness for himself . I don't blame him bit for expecting that much . Yes, he is happy sorting out things with Babitha . He has never said he is marrying babitha for Minnie. He loves her and its natural to be happy when your love gets reciprocated. Its not only about sex but also partnership.

As he said , he is not antaryami to know everything about everyone. It will take time.