Hanuman's hurt - Page 3

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I don’t think Babita has really gotten closure if she still deliberately kept the CD all this time. Nothing she said in that outburst explained that.

Yes, she deffo showed that she WANTS to move on....but nothing explains why she still kept the CD.

And I don’t think she did anything in wifey mode. She was mostly upset that her attempt at happiness was hampered again by her past.

I didn’t see much direct defending or sticking up for HS in that scene. It was mostly about Babita wanting to be free of past baggage. If she was really being so “wifey” why would she offer to break off the wedding yet again? Lol

HS definitely tried to be supportive and sambhaalo her so that was nice to see. But there isn’t a proper sense of a unit between them yet. Babita is still too consumed by Mini to manage to do that.

And I think everyone here is underestimating HS ka level of hurt. To hear Babita describe her level of craving for Ashok is deffo going to ring in his head for a bit. And I’m not blaming Babita that she can’t get all this out of her system, but HS will deffo think about it.

The writers are sprinkling in signs that Ashok will be back for all three characters to get proper closure.

He has to return, otherwise these issues will fester.

@bold, not in my case. This is going to gnaw at his peace of mind for a long time.

There's a difference between a late and ex-spouse. In Babita's case, she knows that Imarti will never return but in HS' case, he only felt relief after Ashok had left the country. If he were to return, then HS would feel insecure, even more so after the CD fiasco. One, as a man who wants to be Minnie's father, and two, as a man who in some ways has the burden of having to do much better than Ashok as a husband, because his worth will be judged based on comparisons with his wife's ex-husband. In fact, even if Ashok doesn't return, his very existence looms large at this point.

Not a pretty sight.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Yes, that was very clear.....Mini had deffo started to wonder if Babita consider her a symbol of her past baggage as well....and that is why she kinda started unconsciously gravitating towards the Khuranas in that moment too......but then Babita held out her hands desperately asking for Mini to come to her and Mini came back to her.

As for HS....I don't know how much NB could have done in that scene....the focus all went on Khuranas because it was Ashok's family and Ashok was the guy Babita was married to, who's wedding video was just played for everyone......HS ka toh kisi ko koi connection hi nahin lag raha tha......lol

NB will show up later to give gyaan to Babita I'm sure....lol....yeah for now the situation had to be built up for the drama.

Yeah, NB is the most awaited person right now. She's the only one who can see the situation for what it is and her wisdom is needed by all three. I really do hope Minnie spends more time with her and not with her grandparents, because she can help her understand things in a way no one can.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Yes, Babita panicked, but part of that is because she didn't understand the subtext, she was not aware of the reason for their fallout about the audio clip and HS' feelings, or what happened in the hospital. She's missing a big piece of the puzzle. We as the audience have seen it, so we can connect the dots, but she is still in the dark. They really need to stop hiding things from one another.

@bold

I just wrote on another thread:

The way he said "aapki chhori" when talking to Babita yesterday... He felt he could not really call her his own because she did not want it. Oh, how that must have hurt!

I won't be surprised if he doesn't call her mhaari Queen Victoria, Veer Balika, or chhori anymore. Perhaps it's best left this way until Minnie herself realizes that she wants him as a father, and for that to happen perhaps Ashok's return is important. Otherwise she might not understand what she wants from a father. I don't think she has thought about their equation as much as he has. He is far more invested in her as a father than she is as a daughter.

I think they need to address the fact that mother-daughter take his understanding for granted quite often. This is as much a second chance for him as it is for Babita.

I also don't like how they want to keep canceling the marriage just like that. Do it or don't do it... just decide one way or another.

@bold: Absolutely. Mother and daughter have both made presumptions about the nature and depth of HS’s equation with them. They don’t have a sense of the full picture and seem to take his understanding for granted as if there is nothing that needs to be taken care of for him.

I also agree with you that Mini hasn’t thought through her equation with HS as much as he’s thought through wanting her as a daughter. She wanted a husband for her mom more than a father for herself. And yes, she may not even know what she expects from a father in her life. This is why HS feels adrift and unworthy because Mini didn’t articulate it well and he needed more confidence from her on that front.

I personally find Ashok’s return to be a cliched trope to use for closure but oh well, I guess that’s what its gonna come down to 🤷‍♀️

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold: Absolutely. Mother and daughter have both made presumptions about the nature and depth of HS’s equation with them. They don’t have a sense of the full picture and seem to take his understanding for granted as if there is nothing that needs to be taken care of for him.

I also agree with you that Mini hasn’t thought through her equation with HS as much as he’s thought through wanting her as a daughter. She wanted a husband for her mom more than a father for herself. And yes, she may not even know what she expects from a father in her life. This is why HS feels adrift and unworthy because Mini didn’t articulate it well and he needed more confidence from her on that front.

I personally find Ashok’s return to be a cliched trope to use for closure but oh well, I guess that’s what its gonna come down to 🤷‍♀️

@bold, his words and his hurt in yesterday's episode should be an eye-opener for both mother and daughter but I am not sure they are going to think about it just yet. I think there will be a big explosion from him at some point in the future regarding all this. Let's see.

I think what happened with the CD incident destroyed his confidence as her father and he might take a step back from this role. I had always wanted to understand how his role as a father would change after the wedding in terms of rights and responsibilities and it looks like he is wary on both fronts now.

I am glad they are exploring this because it's a very important topic when it comes to remarriage with kids.

I also think Ashok's return is cliched but they seem to be hinting at that more and more. It would have been even more mind-blowing if Minnie were to accept HS as her father without Ashok being in the picture.

Originally posted by: inlieu

He has to return, otherwise these issues will fester.

@bold, not in my case. This is going to gnaw at his peace of mind for a long time.

There's a difference between a late and ex-spouse. In Babita's case, she knows that Imarti will never return but in HS' case, he only felt relief after Ashok had left the country. If he were to return, then HS would feel insecure, even more so after the CD fiasco. One, as a man who wants to be Minnie's father, and two, as a man who in some ways has the burden of having to do much better than Ashok as a husband, because his worth will be judged based on comparisons with his wife's ex-husband. In fact, even if Ashok doesn't return, his very existence looms large at this point.

Not a pretty sight.

Exactly. I wonder why so many are forgetting how HS was during that period when Ashok tried to get back with Babita. HS definitely did and definitely will feel insecure on that front again. Especially with revelations like Babita keeping the CD all this time.

And I’m not painting this in a negative light. It’s a very human reaction....he’s not a God to be unaffected when the woman he loves talks about craving her ex-husband. He was weaving dreams of a married life....her as his wife, the intimacy that comes with that. Toh hearing her talk about this, her keeping the CD of Ashok memories will likely stop HS in his tracks and hold him back....make him wonder what Babita really wants.

Also worth noting that Babita constantly offering to cancel the shaadi has to leave an impact somewhere....making him wonder if she even wants to be with him.

I guess this is part of the reason why he’s still sleeping outside on the charpaayi.

Babita doesn’t seem to realize the collateral damage here.

As for comparisons to Ashok..,.lol what a pity. When HS was just Thaanedaar, kya raub tha. Majaal hai ki Ashok jaisa ghatiya aadmi usse compare kiya jaaye....but now he will permanently be compared as Babita’s new husband and Mini’s new dad. How sad.

If they try to whitewash Ashok like they are doing with the rest of the Khuranas, I’m going to be pissed. 😑

Originally posted by: inlieu

Yeah, NB is the most awaited person right now. She's the only one who can see the situation for what it is and her wisdom is needed by all three. I really do hope Minnie spends more time with her and not with her grandparents, because she can help her understand things in a way no one can.

LOL you’re expecting too much now.

If Ashok is coming back, more likely that Mini will be spending more time with her grandparents so that she can keep getting emotionally blackmailed 🙄

Originally posted by: inlieu

Yeah, NB is the most awaited person right now. She's the only one who can see the situation for what it is and her wisdom is needed by all three. I really do hope Minnie spends more time with her and not with her grandparents, because she can help her understand things in a way no one can.

Originally posted by: inlieu

@bold, his words and his hurt in yesterday's episode should be an eye-opener for both mother and daughter but I am not sure they are going to think about it just yet. I think there will be a big explosion from him at some point in the future regarding all this. Let's see.

I think what happened with the CD incident destroyed his confidence as her father and he might take a step back from this role. I had always wanted to understand how his role as a father would change after the wedding in terms of rights and responsibilities and it looks like he is wary on both fronts now.

I am glad they are exploring this because it's a very important topic when it comes to remarriage with kids.

I also think Ashok's return is cliched but they seem to be hinting at that more and more. It would have been even more mind-blowing if Minnie were to accept HS as her father without Ashok being in the picture.

Did only his confidence as a father get impacted? Was his confidence as a father the only thing giving him confidence to be Babita’s husband as well?

I feel his overall confidence for shaken. It was bone deep hurt. It emanated from him feeling let down by Mini but I also feel he felt alone on the Babita front too. Mother-daughter are so closely interconnected, none of this can happen in a vacuum.

I actually never considered this to be a typical remarriage with kids because these characters don’t have typical equations with each other. It was always so much beyond labels.

So I didn’t think they needed a typical story of kids becoming a wedge issue in a remarriage. I always considered this to be about three relationships intertwining together on an individual level. They all share such a deep one on one connect....none of this is typical of a remarriage. They are not typical people. They are people with immense love in their hearts not conforming to societal labels....this is about charting their own journey and not being reduced to a mere trope of remarriage with kids.

I hope the writers maintain the essence of that...these characters and their equations have always been beyond labels. Even as they adapt to official titles of father wife and daughter, I want that original essence to be maintained.

Originally posted by: divyadaya13

i dont want mini to seek khuranas presently. Instead of understanding her state of mind, yeh log apna hi rona royenge.

Humare want karne se kya hoga 😆

Based on how the Khuranas left yesterday, Mini will deffo seek them out to console them. And they will all sit and cry about how Babita hurt them and wants to get rid of them 🙄

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Exactly. I wonder why so many are forgetting how HS was during that period when Ashok tried to get back with Babita. HS definitely did and definitely will feel insecure on that front again. Especially with revelations like Babita keeping the CD all this time.

And I’m not painting this in a negative light. It’s a very human reaction....he’s not a God to be unaffected when the woman he loves talks about craving her ex-husband. He was weaving dreams of a married life....her as his wife, the intimacy that comes with that. Toh hearing her talk about this, her keeping the CD of Ashok memories will likely stop HS in his tracks and hold him back....make him wonder what Babita really wants.

Also worth noting that Babita constantly offering to cancel the shaadi has to leave an impact somewhere....making him wonder if she even wants to be with him.

I guess this is part of the reason why he’s still sleeping outside on the charpaayi.

Babita doesn’t seem to realize the collateral damage here.

As for comparisons to Ashok..,.lol what a pity. When HS was just Thaanedaar, kya raub tha. Majaal hai ki Ashok jaisa ghatiya aadmi usse compare kiya jaaye....but now he will permanently be compared as Babita’s new husband and Mini’s new dad. How sad.

If they try to whitewash Ashok like they are doing with the rest of the Khuranas, I’m going to be pissed. 😑

Yes, I hope they do explore why she kept that CD, and even knew where it had been all this time. It's not like Ashok is a great memory for her to hold on to.

Right, HS is only human and his actions and reactions are perfectly normal. I do hope he wonders what Babita really wants. He has the right to expect certain things as a spouse. Granted, he has been very understanding, par kab tak? Doesn't she want to be in this marriage? Doesn't she want him for herself the way he does? I also hope they raise the point about rushing this marriage and looking back to think the haste had not been a good idea.

It's quite possible he will hold back because of the reasons you mentioned and go back to the live-in relationship he had with mother-daughter (his version of it). Babita will continue to focus on Minnie's needs and not her and HS' which I think will leave him in limbo for a while. He won't demand anything and won't be at peace either. It is normal as a newly wed for him to want her company to start their new life in a beautiful way, and Babita should be thinking along those lines.

The fact that he asks Lala for chai probably means he has resigned himself to not expecting anything as a husband or father at this point. Poor guy!

@bold I know, right? This is really pissing me off big time. Kya se kya ho gaya HS ka. I kept saying the wedding was too soon, he deserved better, but oh well.

As for whitewashing Ashok, well with Babita's latest outburst, the Khuranas could claim that Babita alienated Minnie from her family. Won't suprise me one bit.