Ep 198 - 29-AUG-2019 - It's all up to you, Babita - Page 3

Originally posted by: Zainunissa

I am glad that HS character is strong enough to not accept her tantrums. I think it will be this strength that will build their relationship and break Babitas ego. I admire Minnie for the support she has given her mother and maturity she showed in many instances but she will never know the emotions her mother went through as she is still a child and have not really experienced love for a man YET😉.

This...

I agree that HS has borne the burden of keeping this relationship "stable" to a great extent, and as he said to Lala, he expects this to continue for the foreseeable future. How long can he bear this without breaking himself? It's not going to be easy and from what we saw today it will take a long time for Babita to step up the way she needs to in order to be an equal in this relationship.

I agree, Minnie can only do so much. She's still quite young and inexperienced in many ways, and it is excessively burdensome to her.

The message in today's episode was that everyone has to bear his or her own burden at some point. Your loved ones can give you moral/emotional support but you have to find your own way.

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

I get that. Besides, we've only seen Minnie be in protective mother mode but surely there had been years where Minnie was the child while Babes was the parent. I guess she became so consumed about becoming Babes' parent in her formative years that the idea of finding herself again has become a bit daunting. And really, there's only so much that Minnie can do. At the end of the day, it's Babes' life and it's up to her to decide how she wants to live it.

That's the whole point, her formative years weigh so much on her heart and mind, when she began to understand her mother's loneliness, and especially the recent trauma because of Ashok and her parents' divorce, that the innocence of her childhood was lost way too soon. She has a lot of her own scars to come to terms with.

I remember when she broke down the day Ashok left. That has never really been addressed, she has never spoken about her feelings in that aspect, and I really do hope it is brought up one day. HS is marvelous, but no one can deny her biological connection to Ashok. This show is all about shades of gray and I can't wait to see how she deals with this. I would love to hear her articulate this with HS because they have never quite talked about it.

HS has accepted her as his daughter and she has accepted him as her father, but not with Ashok around. It is completely normal for her to compare them both, and I think she should do it one day, otherwise it would seem unnatural to me. When that happens, I want her to voice her thoughts to HS, and I want him to also hear what he has to say about this. For sure, he will provide some more pearls of wisdom, but I would be curious to see if he becomes insecure on Ashok's return, especially if he has turned over a new leaf. Methinks we haven't seen the last of him yet.

HS is too mature to expect or even think that Minnie ought to cut off all ties with her father. He has made his own place in her heart that doesn't overlap with what Ashok could have had. I would like the strength of this bond and her loyalty to be tested one day because so far it has been relatively smooth with HS doing a lot of the heavy-lifting and her taking the cue and following his lead in many instance. She has seen him up close and vulnerable, but there may be a time when she is a little older when a clash of ideologies or perspectives, as unlikely as it seems today, would put everything into question. I know the writers will nail such tracks.

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

Loll, I think we're all just really in tune with HS' emotions. Jaise woh feel kar the hai, waise hi hum. 😆

Tell me about it. His influence, like his emotions, is all-consuming.

I liked the epi for how I felt I could take everyone's sides. I get where Babita comes from and her reaction to seeing HS and Poonam flirt. I can totally understand HS reaching breaking point and saying all that he said. I was almost starting to feel bad for Minnie when Babita said that it was for Minnie's sake, she stayed put in her prev marriage for 17 years. I think Minnie was almost starting to feel bad there. But I was relieved that NB came and showed the mirror to Babita just in time. It's true that Babita in her anger was hurting HS and was going on to hurt her daughter as well. I guess this track is brought up to highlight these issues that exist.

I think I'm glad that the writers are bringing out actual human issues such as ego, anger, etc that can cause problems in a relationship instead of random vamps and villains that we get to see in most ITV shows.

Originally posted by: SStephy

I think I'm glad that the writers are bringing out actual human issues such as ego, anger, etc that can cause problems in a relationship instead of random vamps and villains that we get to see in most ITV shows.

Yes, there is enough to explore in basic human flaws, in the simplest of thoughts and interactions, to come up with a gripping tale instead of resorting to extreme measures. Then again, the audience has been spoiled by a specific trend in the past decade or so. It will take time to come out of these. They are used to loud, in-your-face shallow characters and over-simplification of human nature to black or white. Subtlety and depth of character are hard for a lot of people to accept or digest, and some just lack the maturity to get it.

Originally posted by: inlieu

That's the whole point, her formative years weigh so much on her heart and mind, when she began to understand her mother's loneliness, and especially the recent trauma because of Ashok and her parents' divorce, that the innocence of her childhood was lost way too soon. She has a lot of her own scars to come to terms with.

I remember when she broke down the day Ashok left. That has never really been addressed, she has never spoken about her feelings in that aspect, and I really do hope it is brought up one day. HS is marvelous, but no one can deny her biological connection to Ashok. This show is all about shades of gray and I can't wait to see how she deals with this. I would love to hear her articulate this with HS because they have never quite talked about it.

HS has accepted her as his daughter and she has accepted him as her father, but not with Ashok around. It is completely normal for her to compare them both, and I think she should do it one day, otherwise it would seem unnatural to me. When that happens, I want her to voice her thoughts to HS, and I want him to also hear what he has to say about this. For sure, he will provide some more pearls of wisdom, but I would be curious to see if he becomes insecure on Ashok's return, especially if he has turned over a new leaf. Methinks we haven't seen the last of him yet.

HS is too mature to expect or even think that Minnie ought to cut off all ties with her father. He has made his own place in her heart that doesn't overlap with what Ashok could have had. I would like the strength of this bond and her loyalty to be tested one day because so far it has been relatively smooth with HS doing a lot of the heavy-lifting and her taking the cue and following his lead in many instance. She has seen him up close and vulnerable, but there may be a time when she is a little older when a clash of ideologies or perspectives, as unlikely as it seems today, would put everything into question. I know the writers will nail such tracks.

I understand your point about there being a biological connection with Ashok but I'm still struggling to understand if having that connection necessitates having an emotional connection too.

I would love to see that father-daughter conversation take place. I think it'll help me to understand what her perception is on all the dynamics that have changed in her life. How has her understanding of old relationships changed compared to the new?

I don't know if HS will become insecure. He has his own relationship with Minnie and as we've all seen, he has fulfilled the role of a father in a lot more ways than Ashok ever has. Even if Ashok does come back and has changed for the better, it doesn't excuse his past actions nor gives him the permission to enter their lives again. I don't know how the CVs are gonna take this track, but I won't be able to digest it if Minnie allows Ashok to come back in her life in any way.

Seeing a clash of ideologies will surely be interesting. As much as HS wants to change the older generations' mentality, there will be certain things that he wouldn't agree with that Minnie on the other hand, would see as being not that big of a deal. This is something that I am getting quite eager to see now! :D

Originally posted by: inlieu

Yes, there is enough to explore in basic human flaws, in the simplest of thoughts and interactions, to come up with a gripping tale instead of resorting to extreme measures. Then again, the audience has been spoiled by a specific trend in the past decade or so. It will take time to come out of these. They are used to loud, in-your-face shallow characters and over-simplification of human nature to black or white. Subtlety and depth of character are hard for a lot of people to accept or digest, and some just lack the maturity to get it.

This is so true. First we used to be bombarded with all the dhoom tanananas and now it's all the naagins, chudail, dayaans and who knows what else.

Tbh, I wouldn't even mind watching supernatural shows as it's one my favorite genres but there has to be some sort of logic to it. 🤔 Or at least a plot. 😕 But yaha toh woh bhi ni hai.

This is why shows like PB need to be given a chance so that the audience's taste can be altered. They need to know that it is possible to have decent and high quality content in ITV. They don't need to go to other platforms.

Originally posted by: naq5

wonderful episode. Cvs 👏. when hanuman was saying all that to babita i was like go hanuman. I loved how he bought up that it was upto babita if she wanted to trust him or not and even babita knows that hanuman has done nothing that she should not be trusting him

I have said that one day i wanted Mini to confront Babita about the jewellery returning thing, the alimony returning & the slap in front of ashok thing. An we get that today. All these decisions have affected mini in a negative way.

But no Babitas ego is still intact, she in return blamed mini for staying in the loveless marriage with ashok 😡 where as it was babita who had put blinders on and Mini had to make her walk out of it. Naim bi was so right babita stayed in the marriage because she did not know & was insecure of where she would go. She was not strong enough to take care of mini & herself alone. Somewhere when Babita was telling all this i saw more of disbelief on minis face than guilt it was like even mini could see that she was conveniently putting blame on her & im glad naim bi stopped her at the right time before she could inflict more damage to mini.

i just wish mini has brought up how she had to let go of her dream college for babita . How she has had to become a mother to babita. If babita stayed with ashok then it was for herself also but here mini has sacrificed only for her .

Im not sure but i remember the psychologist telling babita on the lines of about how a child can blame self for his/her existence for her parent staying in a loveless marriage and babita did exactly that😒👎🏼

Did she really blame mini for her staying in a loveless marriage with ashok 😳

Nice ,sweet and short reviews. I really loved how you explained the whole episode. Yes,NB s whole lecture was so much needed for Babita and Minnie’s one too! We all know Babita is very insecure person (for me) but today she showed us that she is kinda stupid too(sorry) but what did HS and Poonam did that she got so offended ??just listen after “chuggli “or “Kan varai” from that stupid Preets mom?. Babita should grow up little bit or use her head a little too,because she is not a teenager to blame/insult and hurt and not trusting HS.I also want her to apologize to HS coz it’s really not fare to him. Thanks for your reviews!,,

Mickey is right. Mini needs to think about herself. How long she is going to pamper Babita? I have not seen todays episode yet but what I saw yesterday, Babita is one insecure woman showing immaturity at her level. We will see more insecurity and possessiveness from Babita. In one of my other post, I made a comment that men do get turn off by woman's behavior, and showing insecurity and possessiveness can be one of the reason to get turned off by. My comment did not go well with some, but that was my opinion. Poonam is her best friend and she was one who told Babita to go ahead with HS.. Even then Babita showed jealousy and insecurity. I really hope Mini goes away to study and let Babita fight her own battles with HS. Babita has a lot of learn on her own without Mini.