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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: Crazy4prb

The characters, the story, acting was class apart.

Many of us did not go in to the nuances of the serial in so much depth that time, neither appreciated it but now seeing the rubbish they are showing on TV, u realise that how much depth kzk had.


Second that !! Back in 2002/2003, to think of a storyline where the leads are unapologetic of having pre-marital sex and not needing to justify that with any kind of 'dhaaga' marriage, discussing the options of Abortion, time and again I have mentioned that even in 2019, KZK first 4 yrs look far more mature than any other show. It was the only show where the female lead used to go to office as full time job (and not to save sasural when they are in trouble) and had a career, used to be part of office politics rather than petty kitchen politics (not demeaning kitchen stuffs lol, but I would prefer the first one than the later lol). Both love stories were built with care, and the individual characters too. Not even going to discuss Prerna, even Anurag was the kind of lead whom you could relate to a great extent. May be I am old school😆, but honestly this OTT display of aggression, obsession etc don't work on me anymore. 😵 The way they showed Anurag as a helpless guy who was supposed to be taking care of father's business, had to leave college and studies in between to take care of family business when his father met with accident, and succumbed to family demand and genuinely cared for Komolika, fought for her rights when Komo started rebelling (read revealing 😆) by wearing modern dresses at puja etc, and then his unconditional, in no twisted way of HEARTFELT apology when he found out about Prem, the way he dealt with the curses Moloy gave to him knowing what he did to Prerna, and finally when he went to ask for her hand, it was so so beautiful. I still remember his lines on Prem1's revelation 'Jis kisi bhi drishtikone se dekhta hoon, apne aap ko doshi paata hoon'. 👍🏼 You cannot possibly not feel for that man whose only fault was he was a pushover. At every step he asked for Prerna's consent, be it when Mohini slapped her and still he wanted to go ahead with the marriage only if she agrees or be it when he finally came out of his marriage with Komo. He never took Prerna for granted, never imposed his thoughts on her, never came up with assumptions from her side. Rishabh Bajaj on the other hand, my my, his characterization was THE BEST back then. ☺️ We didn't have such character on Tele back then. I dont have to re-iterate how fresh it was. His was the most carefully written and worked on character which showed maximum growth and someone who went through every shade of black or white.


Sorry for my rant, but since this season they are still handling Bajaj very nicely, I don't have complaints on Bajaj, but I have huge huge complaints on Anurag and AP. Is it the new generation? Am I too old already? Why can't I understand this OTT crap? 4 din ki chaandni is being portrayed as having such deep impact on the leads that they are losing their minds over it ? Prerna shifting to Basu house is same crazy crap as to what Anurag is doing right now ! This love doesn't even make sense to me. When did it become so deep amidst kidnapping, hospital, shaadi mandaps and gunpoints ? The masterstroke in S1 was to establish Anurag-Prerna's deep understanding and bonding THROUGH Anu-Komo marriage and PRB marriage, they really felt like tracks of trains who were walking in parallel, but never together. They GREW into the relationship together and they grew individually too. Those tracks were not used to show the love of the leads for each other, but to establish that itself, to show the fact that despite being married to a 3rd party, how 2 people can continue to bond from heart and be connected to a deep bonding that's far beyond worldly words........ But yahaan toh............ Accident hi ho gaya Train ka by God. Not walking parallel at all, colliding, clashing all the time and still not sure if they love each other or not.

Edited by prerna4rishav - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: tejaswiniwenham

thats why i roll my eyes anytime someone calls this bajaj old and when nivedita was on to veena about how prerna is taking care of bajaj's badi si beti. i was like- what? he's hardly maybe 8 years older than prerna. and kuki is like 5...yeh toh kaafi aam si baat hain yaar. isme kya hain. arrange marriages mein toh aise age gaps kaafi common hain, desirable even. season 1 mein these contextual subtleties and taanashaayi atleast made sense. people were making presumptions about the age gap within the scope of the show cos prerna was close enough to vish in age that her and anurag couldve married and it wouldve been fine. season 1 na they actually were a lot more unabashed about the content and unapologetic about the content they showed. it was a very daring show- prerna's choices and her ability live with them self-sufficiently and to even exist outside of the paradigm of love and anurag or even RB was actually quite empowering. she was weak in a good way- she wanted both men in some capacity or the other in her life but she never NEEDED them, even in the early days of the show. i feel like giving birth to prem whilst the whole anu-komo marriage was on gave her character arc a huge boost and owning her supposedly illegitimate child with no shame really was revolutionary in a way we dont see on mainstream tv now. s1 was good, it was terrible but it was good and nowhere nearly as preachy as the other k shows.

brilliantly described.. till 8 yr leap ended, it was quite a bold show for it's time.
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: prerna4rishav


Second that !! Back in 2002/2003, to think of a storyline where the leads are unapologetic of having pre-marital sex and not needing to justify that with any kind of 'dhaaga' marriage, discussing the options of Abortion, time and again I have mentioned that even in 2019, KZK first 4 yrs look far more mature than any other show. It was the only show where the female lead used to go to office as full time job (and not to save sasural when they are in trouble) and had a career, used to be part of office politics rather than petty kitchen politics (not demeaning kitchen stuffs lol, but I would prefer the first one than the later lol). Both love stories were built with care, and the individual characters too. Not even going to discuss Prerna, even Anurag was the kind of lead whom you could relate to a great extent. May be I am old school😆, but honestly this OTT display of aggression, obsession etc don't work on me anymore. 😵 The way they showed Anurag as a helpless guy who was supposed to be taking care of father's business, had to leave college and studies in between to take care of family business when his father met with accident, and succumbed to family demand and genuinely cared for Komolika, fought for her rights when Komo started rebelling (read revealing 😆) by wearing modern dresses at puja etc, and then his unconditional, in no twisted way of HEARTFELT apology when he found out about Prem, the way he dealt with the curses Moloy gave to him knowing what he did to Prerna, and finally when he went to ask for her hand, it was so so beautiful. I still remember his lines on Prem1's revelation 'Jis kisi bhi drishtikone se dekhta hoon, apne aap ko doshi paata hoon'. 👍🏼 You cannot possibly not feel for that man whose only fault was he was a pushover. At every step he asked for Prerna's consent, be it when Mohini slapped her and still he wanted to go ahead with the marriage only if she agrees or be it when he finally came out of his marriage with Komo. He never took Prerna for granted, never imposed his thoughts on her, never came up with assumptions from her side. Rishabh Bajaj on the other hand, my my, his characterization was THE BEST back then. ☺️ We didn't have such character on Tele back then. I dont have to re-iterate how fresh it was. His was the most carefully written and worked on character which showed maximum growth and someone who went through every shade of black or white.


Sorry for my rant, but since this season they are still handling Bajaj very nicely, I don't have complaints on Bajaj, but I have huge huge complaints on Anurag and AP. Is it the new generation? Am I too old already? Why can't I understand this OTT crap? 4 din ki chaandni is being portrayed as having such deep impact on the leads that they are losing their minds over it ? Prerna shifting to Basu house is same crazy crap as to what Anurag is doing right now ! This love doesn't even make sense to me. When did it become so deep amidst kidnapping, hospital, shaadi mandaps and gunpoints ? The masterstroke in S1 was to establish Anurag-Prerna's deep understanding and bonding THROUGH Anu-Komo marriage and PRB marriage, they really felt like tracks of trains who were walking in parallel, but never together. They GREW into the relationship together and they grew individually too. Those tracks were not used to show the love of the leads for each other, but to establish that itself, to show the fact that despite being married to a 3rd party, how 2 people can continue to bond from heart and be connected to a deep bonding that's far beyond worldly words........ But yahaan toh............ Accident hi ho gaya Train ka by God. Not walking parallel at all, colliding, clashing all the time and still not sure if they love each other or not.

Hats off fot this beautiful analysis..

I agree to each n every poin.

And also may i add. Although so adarsh beta and always so much maa ka beta.. He indeed showed some stubborness towrds his maa to marry Prerna. mohini then nailed it evily later.

And also the whole sex before mrg n abortion thing.. So nicely described. I even remem Pre going against Sneha when she wanted P2 to have an abortion. That was really our Prerna.

And i really felt so bad for Anu when he came to know about prem that time.. Yhere was no way for him to fix his deeds and he was vulnerable. Their love actually had always made up the essense of the sho. Always. Even when she shot him.. That was foolish but inddeed can be explained.

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: tejaswiniwenham

thats why i roll my eyes anytime someone calls this bajaj old and when nivedita was on to veena about how prerna is taking care of bajaj's badi si beti. i was like- what? he's hardly maybe 8 years older than prerna. and kuki is like 5...yeh toh kaafi aam si baat hain yaar. isme kya hain. arrange marriages mein toh aise age gaps kaafi common hain, desirable even. season 1 mein these contextual subtleties and taanashaayi atleast made sense. people were making presumptions about the age gap within the scope of the show cos prerna was close enough to vish in age that her and anurag couldve married and it wouldve been fine. season 1 na they actually were a lot more unabashed about the content and unapologetic about the content they showed. it was a very daring show- prerna's choices and her ability live with them self-sufficiently and to even exist outside of the paradigm of love and anurag or even RB was actually quite empowering. she was weak in a good way- she wanted both men in some capacity or the other in her life but she never NEEDED them, even in the early days of the show. i feel like giving birth to prem whilst the whole anu-komo marriage was on gave her character arc a huge boost and owning her supposedly illegitimate child with no shame really was revolutionary in a way we dont see on mainstream tv now. s1 was good, it was terrible but it was good and nowhere nearly as preachy as the other k shows.

In s1 Bajaj was supposed to just be a cameo and hence Ekta showed him a lot older than Prerna but then he became so popular that he had to be brought back from dead. The Jodi of PRB became so popular and I think hence in s2 the creatives hv consciously decided to make him younger than his predecessor. I agree that the age gap between S2 Bajaj and Prerna is not much. Maybe 8 years. But then love knows no age and PRB’s love was truly timeless

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Posted: 6 years ago

RB was supposed to be a cameo of maximum 3 months who will enter in prerna life will get married to her and will die due to some brain tumor disease. This was what their plan was and hence they introduced him having three kids. Two teenage ones and one small one kuki.

But then RR made so much impact that they had to keep him in the show till the end and make him a parallel lead.

Why prerna married bajaj they revealed in the next two episodes post marriage because they have the next track ready like prerna who already had a successful career by then, will help those two teenage kids to provide them the love of a mother which they badly missed because of the divorce of their parents and also make them realise and understand the importance of having a career for themselves too.

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Posted: 6 years ago

I have a question to the members.

During the family friend scene, prerna told RB, "15 saal pehle aap nahin jaante the ki main anurag se pyaar Karri thi? 15 saal baad Pata chala?

Jab aapko meri zaroorat thi tho aapne mujhe hasil Kar Liya aur ab aapko meri zaroorat nahin tho aap mujhe anurag ki pass wapas bbekna chahthe Hai"

Isn't it a big mistake from her part that she forgot that she ultimately got married to ab when menaka played that fake death of RB track?

Or she is not interested to remember the fact that she once got married to ab?

🤣🤣

Note : sruthi, saps, OPPO and prerna4rishav

Even though I saw all PRB scenes but when you three post anything regarding a specific scene I. Have to admit my pov about that scene is completely changing after reading your posts.

Kudos to you all especially the new members I met in this thread.

Thanks to s2, which made us to meet here and share our thoughts.

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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: prerna4rishav


Second that !! Back in 2002/2003, to think of a storyline where the leads are unapologetic of having pre-marital sex and not needing to justify that with any kind of 'dhaaga' marriage, discussing the options of Abortion, time and again I have mentioned that even in 2019, KZK first 4 yrs look far more mature than any other show. It was the only show where the female lead used to go to office as full time job (and not to save sasural when they are in trouble) and had a career, used to be part of office politics rather than petty kitchen politics (not demeaning kitchen stuffs lol, but I would prefer the first one than the later lol). Both love stories were built with care, and the individual characters too. Not even going to discuss Prerna, even Anurag was the kind of lead whom you could relate to a great extent. May be I am old school😆, but honestly this OTT display of aggression, obsession etc don't work on me anymore. 😵 The way they showed Anurag as a helpless guy who was supposed to be taking care of father's business, had to leave college and studies in between to take care of family business when his father met with accident, and succumbed to family demand and genuinely cared for Komolika, fought for her rights when Komo started rebelling (read revealing 😆) by wearing modern dresses at puja etc, and then his unconditional, in no twisted way of HEARTFELT apology when he found out about Prem, the way he dealt with the curses Moloy gave to him knowing what he did to Prerna, and finally when he went to ask for her hand, it was so so beautiful. I still remember his lines on Prem1's revelation 'Jis kisi bhi drishtikone se dekhta hoon, apne aap ko doshi paata hoon'. 👍🏼 You cannot possibly not feel for that man whose only fault was he was a pushover. At every step he asked for Prerna's consent, be it when Mohini slapped her and still he wanted to go ahead with the marriage only if she agrees or be it when he finally came out of his marriage with Komo. He never took Prerna for granted, never imposed his thoughts on her, never came up with assumptions from her side. Rishabh Bajaj on the other hand, my my, his characterization was THE BEST back then. ☺️ We didn't have such character on Tele back then. I dont have to re-iterate how fresh it was. His was the most carefully written and worked on character which showed maximum growth and someone who went through every shade of black or white.


Sorry for my rant, but since this season they are still handling Bajaj very nicely, I don't have complaints on Bajaj, but I have huge huge complaints on Anurag and AP. Is it the new generation? Am I too old already? Why can't I understand this OTT crap? 4 din ki chaandni is being portrayed as having such deep impact on the leads that they are losing their minds over it ? Prerna shifting to Basu house is same crazy crap as to what Anurag is doing right now ! This love doesn't even make sense to me. When did it become so deep amidst kidnapping, hospital, shaadi mandaps and gunpoints ? The masterstroke in S1 was to establish Anurag-Prerna's deep understanding and bonding THROUGH Anu-Komo marriage and PRB marriage, they really felt like tracks of trains who were walking in parallel, but never together. They GREW into the relationship together and they grew individually too. Those tracks were not used to show the love of the leads for each other, but to establish that itself, to show the fact that despite being married to a 3rd party, how 2 people can continue to bond from heart and be connected to a deep bonding that's far beyond worldly words........ But yahaan toh............ Accident hi ho gaya Train ka by God. Not walking parallel at all, colliding, clashing all the time and still not sure if they love each other or not.

guddi aise description I have heard in the group. You are brilliant
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: prb4eva

I have a question to the members.

During the family friend scene, prerna told RB, "15 saal pehle aap nahin jaante the ki main anurag se pyaar Karri thi? 15 saal baad Pata chala?

Jab aapko meri zaroorat thi tho aapne mujhe hasil Kar Liya aur ab aapko meri zaroorat nahin tho aap mujhe anurag ki pass wapas bbekna chahthe Hai"

Isn't it a big mistake from her part that she forgot that she ultimately got married to ab when menaka played that fake death of RB track?

Or she is not interested to remember the fact that she once got married to ab?

🤣🤣

Note : sruthi, saps, OPPO and prerna4rishav

Even though I saw all PRB scenes but when you three post anything regarding a specific scene I. Have to admit my pov about that scene is completely changing after reading your posts.

Kudos to you all especially the new members I met in this thread.

Thanks to s2, which made us to meet here and share our thoughts.

seriously! Watching the serial with so much froth and new perspective. I have seen 25th jan and 9th may 1000 times but the way they described prerna in it, I never noticed all that before
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Posted: 6 years ago

Originally posted by: Crazy4prb

seriously! Watching the serial with so much froth and new perspective. I have seen 25th jan and 9th may 1000 times but the way they described prerna in it, I never noticed all that before

You didn't answered my question

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