Is this love? - Page 3

Originally posted by: Padmajaan

Well I have reached a stage where I couldn't care less about hanuman and babes combo.

The magic has gone.

Sad but true.

It saddens me to say this but it is true for me too... since Imarti's entry, Babita lost her charm for me... I think she's coming out to be too weak a person...

I have been watching this show since day 1... So I know all the Babita struggles and her character. But for once, I expected her to think beyond herself... I understand she trusts Hanuman, and she left the house because of the words he said, but I still expected her to be stronger - the way he has been so many times. Let's not forget she has been harsh with him too, but he never left his side!

For the past two days, Babita is annoying me... honestly. I agree with what she said about getting to know the person in pieces and also the Meeta trusting Ashok when she first met him - but now was not the time to say all that...

For someone who is ultra-sensitive, Babita was acting NORMAL while preparing the dinner yesterday. Did she not notice how Hanuman left? Or did she not wonder about the events at the havan. I guess I can't blame the character here but the makers who should have shown us recalling the havan events (in case they wanted to show Babita oblivious to Hanuman's worry)...

Also, maybe the fact that the connection between Hanuman and Minnie is so strong that Babita falls weak there... not sure if I make sense here but then again that is not the characters fault but the makers.

I really really really hope next week Babita more than makeup for the last two episodes! I hope makers focus on Hanuman Babita equation now... although I lovvveeee Minnie Hanuman equation the most!

I'm with Padma and Aneeqa on this one. Idk what it is but ever since Imarti arrived, she has sort of just taken over for me. She is the woman, absolutely perfect for HS. And the love he has for her is so incredibly strong, it's making me wonder what exactly he saw in Babes in the first place to make him fall in love with her. 😕

I guess it's the larger than life treatment Imarti's given but she is an incredibly strong character. So much so that even after her death, she is making huge impacts in the lives of the people she has left behind.

And I think because we haven't seen much of Babita lately, or her thinking process, she seems to be a bit lacking. I know she has a lot of growth to get through and I guess that's what's influencing how I feel about Hanita overall. But the way she is right now, she is not right for HS at all.

Originally posted by: Padmajaan

She doesn't even deserve it.

In fact I wonder what he saw and sees in her!

I am trying not to feel this way, but failing. I dare say she doesn't seem to be worthy of him at this point.

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

I'm with Padma and Aneeqa on this one. Idk what it is but ever since Imarti arrived, she has sort of just taken over for me. She is the woman, absolutely perfect for HS. And the love he has for her is so incredibly strong, it's making me wonder what exactly he saw in Babes in the first place to make him fall in love with her. 😕

I guess it's the larger than life treatment Imarti's given but she is an incredibly strong character. So much so that even after her death, she is making huge impacts in the lives of the people she has left behind.

And I think because we haven't seen much of Babita lately, or her thinking process, she seems to be a bit lacking. I know she has a lot of growth to get through and I guess that's what's influencing how I feel about Hanita overall. But the way she is right now, she is not right for HS at all.

I am wondering if this is deliberate or not. Minnie had also asked HS how could Babita make her own place if his heart was full of Imarti's memories, especially because she was larger than life. That's exactly what we're seeing. Even when she wasn't shown, and we only heard about her, we could feel her presence. But to see her now and her dynamics with HS, you can better perceive the intensity of his love and his grief.

Babita pales in comparison but why should they be compared? is what I would ask her. She is not only insecure but jealous of that love, insanely jealous. On top of that his words, even though he never compared her to Imarti, made her feel as if there was no way she could ever be loved by him in the same way. I think it's because she has been so busy with herself that she's failed to string together ALL the things he's done for her since day 1.

The patience, the waiting, the suppression of longing for Babita - that is a completely different kind of lasting love that not many people are capable of. She is extremely lucky to have found a man who is. I think she has also been taking his generosity for granted way too often, always expecting him to be a in a good mood, to have him be nice to her without accounting for the fact that he has bad days too and a grief far beyond hers (even if there had been no court case on him). His attention has never wavered from her in all this time but the moment he looks the other way, she can't stand it.

I know she's learning but if she can't help herself no one can. She needs to grab and claim what she wants as hers. She didn't do it with Ashok but she'd better do it now. HS wants her to make the move, he wants her to give him the same rights that she wants on him. Their argument at the door the other day basically summed up the current state of their relationship. She needs to stop hiding and making excuses, as Minnie said. She has to fight with him for her right because she was the one who pushed him away before. If his rejection is hurting then what about her rejection a while ago? It's HS who didn't let it affect his feelings, who continued to care for her even after that.

To be honest, from few episodes i can't feel HS's love for Babita. There is only Imarati all arround suddenly. Its true that Hanita has lost that charm. Story was about the slow progression in their love story. From the day Babita has realised her love. Equations have been changed. Many of you will disagree but i am not liking the current track. Makers have created a unnecessary mess, unnecessary confusion. There is no meaning to Hanita now its only about HS's love for Imarati and HS- Minni Bond. We all love the father- daughter duo but Hanita is no where. In my opinion HS only loved Imarati. So better they bring back her. Sorry for saying all this but i am really disappointed with the writing of the show.

Originally posted by: inlieu

I am wondering if this is deliberate or not. Minnie had also asked HS how could Babita make her own place if his heart was full of Imarti's memories, especially because she was larger than life. That's exactly what we're seeing. Even when she wasn't shown, and we only heard about her, we could feel her presence. But to see her now and her dynamics with HS, you can better perceive the intensity of his love and his grief.

Babita pales in comparison but why should they be compared? is what I would ask her. She is not only insecure but jealous of that love, insanely jealous. On top of that his words, even though he never compared her to Imarti, made her feel as if there was no way she could ever be loved by him in the same way. I think it's because she has been so busy with herself that she's failed to string together ALL the things he's done for her since day 1.

The patience, the waiting, the suppression of longing for Babita - that is a completely different kind of lasting love that not many people are capable of. She is extremely lucky to have found a man who is. I think she has also been taking his generosity for granted way too often, always expecting him to be a in a good mood, to have him be nice to her without accounting for the fact that he has bad days too and a grief far beyond hers (even if there had been no court case on him). His attention has never wavered from her in all this time but the moment he looks the other way, she can't stand it.

I know she's learning but if she can't help herself no one can. She needs to grab and claim what she wants as hers. She didn't do it with Ashok but she'd better do it now. HS wants her to make the move, he wants her to give him the same rights that she wants on him. Their argument at the door the other day basically summed up the current state of their relationship. She needs to stop hiding and making excuses, as Minnie said. She has to fight with him for her right because she was the one who pushed him away before. If his rejection is hurting then what about her rejection a while ago? It's HS who didn't let it affect his feelings, who continued to care for her even after that.

If the point was to make Babes feel less insecure then I don't think they accomplished it well. They might plan on using this track to bring about that security but I don't know if it's such a good idea.

Babes has taken HS for granted a LOT. During their fight when HS asked her to list out the complaints she has against him, she had to rack her brain to even find one. I don't even count the Meeta one as a complaint as that was just her being jealous and what was HS even supposed to do in that situation? Push away a woman who was drastically looking for comfort? And HS didn't approach her; it was Meeta who grabbed him. Even when things aren't directly related to her, she still found a way to insult him. Like when he bought Minnie the camera and she returned to him stating he's overstepping his boundaries. She says she respects him but then she does things that contradict her statement and that just doesn't sit well with me.

I know that she's really scared cuz of the whole thing that happened with Ashok and after what HS said to her it's gonna be even harder now. But regardless of anything, she needs to put her desires out there in front of him. She tells Naeem Bi everything like how she saw the companion that she wanted in him. If she could just tell HS that then things would be a lot different.

Originally posted by: inlieu

I am wondering if this is deliberate or not. Minnie had also asked HS how could Babita make her own place if his heart was full of Imarti's memories, especially because she was larger than life. That's exactly what we're seeing. Even when she wasn't shown, and we only heard about her, we could feel her presence. But to see her now and her dynamics with HS, you can better perceive the intensity of his love and his grief.

Babita pales in comparison but why should they be compared? is what I would ask her. She is not only insecure but jealous of that love, insanely jealous. On top of that his words, even though he never compared her to Imarti, made her feel as if there was no way she could ever be loved by him in the same way. I think it's because she has been so busy with herself that she's failed to string together ALL the things he's done for her since day 1.

The patience, the waiting, the suppression of longing for Babita - that is a completely different kind of lasting love that not many people are capable of. She is extremely lucky to have found a man who is. I think she has also been taking his generosity for granted way too often, always expecting him to be a in a good mood, to have him be nice to her without accounting for the fact that he has bad days too and a grief far beyond hers (even if there had been no court case on him). His attention has never wavered from her in all this time but the moment he looks the other way, she can't stand it.

I know she's learning but if she can't help herself no one can. She needs to grab and claim what she wants as hers. She didn't do it with Ashok but she'd better do it now. HS wants her to make the move, he wants her to give him the same rights that she wants on him. Their argument at the door the other day basically summed up the current state of their relationship. She needs to stop hiding and making excuses, as Minnie said. She has to fight with him for her right because she was the one who pushed him away before. If his rejection is hurting then what about her rejection a while ago? It's HS who didn't let it affect his feelings, who continued to care for her even after that.

Yeah very well said when she rejected HS then he understood and was still supportive and patient giving her time believing in his love ..as a woman we feel more for words said against women's character but it was first Babita who had questioned his motive for bringing camera to Minnie and HS had overturned that argument into comic way (writers had) but questioning his intentions didn't Babita also crossed line like hanuman had done for pushing her away.. we know Hanuman has a reason for doing that but what reason did Babita had then beside her ego and arrogance of being successful..when she said I can afford it too..

Yes HS love for Imarti has been shown in more on face these days but that is why it is commendable that when Minnie told him that what he was doing was same as what Ashok did ..He was hurt and very understanding of Minnie's words.. He responded by reaching out to a point of moving on .. Yes he is not into that love zone which he would be with Imarti openly expressing his love and thus it was difficult for him to put his love into expression. But the way her reaction to his case truth was ..he was visibly hurt ..and that hurt could be because of lack of trust she has shown

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

I'm with Padma and Aneeqa on this one. Idk what it is but ever since Imarti arrived, she has sort of just taken over for me. She is the woman, absolutely perfect for HS. And the love he has for her is so incredibly strong, it's making me wonder what exactly he saw in Babes in the first place to make him fall in love with her. 😕

I guess it's the larger than life treatment Imarti's given but she is an incredibly strong character. So much so that even after her death, she is making huge impacts in the lives of the people she has left behind.

And I think because we haven't seen much of Babita lately, or her thinking process, she seems to be a bit lacking. I know she has a lot of growth to get through and I guess that's what's influencing how I feel about Hanita overall. But the way she is right now, she is not right for HS at all.

Very true i totally agree

Ima and maan were soulmates. That kind of love is all consuming. I feel hanuman loves bab like a partner a person who gives him care comfort and love. Maybe not the all consuming but something that is comforting. The one thing that attracts him more is perhaps mini. The daughter he wish he had. The person in whom he seems bit of himself and imarti. The person who has the guts to stand for what is right. He feels mini needs some discipline and anger management but at the core she is a person of principle a person who has guts to stand for what is right

I am sorry but i am totally disappointed with bab. It is ok not to stand by as a future partner that can be revisited since he tried to hit below the belt. But not to stand by as a friend is unforgivable esp since that friend has always been your rock come what may. I feel like many she is a weak person who runs away from situations.

Originally posted by: AnjuRish

Very true i totally agree

Ima and maan were soulmates. That kind of love is all consuming. I feel hanuman loves bab like a partner a person who gives him care comfort and love. Maybe not the all consuming but something that is comforting. The one thing that attracts him more is perhaps mini. The daughter he wish he had. The person in whom he seems bit of himself and imarti. The person who has the guts to stand for what is right. He feels mini needs some discipline and anger management but at the core she is a person of principle a person who has guts to stand for what is right

I am sorry but i am totally disappointed with bab. It is ok not to stand by as a future partner that can be revisited since he tried to hit below the belt. But not to stand by as a friend is unforgivable esp since that friend has always been your rock come what may. I feel like many she is a weak person who runs away from situations.

Agreed. The very least she could have done was inquire more as to what made Imarti's FIL think that HS murdered Imarti. She just read the first page on the file, heard his guilty filled truth, accepted it and left. Like, what gives?

Let's set aside family cuz they all have their own personal biases. What about the police commissioner? Even HE vouches for HS' character and integrity and that man abides by the law to the t. If he had doubts on HS, then there's no way HS would have gotten all those medals and promotion.

Originally posted by: riti4u

Yeah very well said when she rejected HS then he understood and was still supportive and patient giving her time believing in his love ..as a woman we feel more for words said against women's character but it was first Babita who had questioned his motive for bringing camera to Minnie and HS had overturned that argument into comic way (writers had) but questioning his intentions didn't Babita also crossed line like hanuman had done for pushing her away.. we know Hanuman has a reason for doing that but what reason did Babita had then beside her ego and arrogance of being successful..when she said I can afford it too..

Yes HS love for Imarti has been shown in more on face these days but that is why it is commendable that when Minnie told him that what he was doing was same as what Ashok did ..He was hurt and very understanding of Minnie's words.. He responded by reaching out to a point of moving on .. Yes he is not into that love zone which he would be with Imarti openly expressing his love and thus it was difficult for him to put his love into expression. But the way her reaction to his case truth was ..he was visibly hurt ..and that hurt could be because of lack of trust she has shown

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You know, that's a really great point. We talk about a woman's dignity and character and feel offended when it is assassinated, but what about when a man's character is assassinated? It is just as bad. He was super angry as he left for the camp but as usual his love for Babita was stronger than the offense he took at her words. I think this has also been detrimental in their relationship, the fact that he has not shown Babita his anger and hurt over her words often enough. I know he didn't want to hurt her or bring up the "difficult conversations" with her, but that's what they both need. To have it out in the open and not to bottle it up and then explode at one point.

The problem that people like HS face is that everyone thinks they are incredibly strong and invincible, that they do not need support. Such people end up becoming even more lonely because no one proactively to support them. Lala and NB have known him for so long, which is why they don't need to be asked to support him. There are just there, holding his hand, which is what has kept him afloat all this time. To Babita and until recently even Minnie, there was no reason why he couldn't just pick himself up and move on without stumbling.