For people who say 'Its just a movie' - Page 13

Originally posted by: AllThatCritique

Its kinda scary that you have to explain this.

Originally posted by: AllThatCritique

With Kabir Singh,its more of a celebration of an absolute trash of a person and glorification of him in some godly light,even more so than influence. Certainly it tells men these vile things he does gets a pass and gives them a pass because it's oh so heroic and edgy and example of a true man.

Yes cinema influences people. They idiolise the heroes and characters they play on screen. Not everyone but those who have that inclination wud do without fear. That is what we are saying but people don't understand.

Originally posted by: TeenRose1

Iwas shown it by our servant when i was a kid. I cudn't understand it then but i realized it later. He was acting like a good friend and elder bro like to me and when no one is around did that disgusting creepy act

I can understand n tats sad . as a well wisher saying don't share any personal info on public platforms , dis forum is available international , not safe .

Originally posted by: MishaNavi

So pointing a knife at someone and asking them to take off their clothes is NOT 'sexual harassment'. 🤣🤣

In this particular scenario its not. I checked with a lawyer

Originally posted by: hedwig_fawkes

I see people bringing up Gully Boy as an analogy to Kabir Singh (abusive girl instead of guy) and I just wanted to point out that

1) several people took issue with alia’s character, namely feminists

2) Sakina was never violent with Murad. She turned her violence on other girls. So it was internalised misogyny, not misandry.

3) murad cheats on sakina, lies about it, and then makes her feel like the bad guy. She begs him to return. He only does so after he realises he doesn’t want kalki. She forgives him Immediately and takes him back though he doesn’t even really apologise. She basically has to coerce him to return after HE CHEATED On HER. In what universe does this show female supremacy?

To sum up, there are several issues with Gully Boy, but they also pertain to misogyny.

As for Kabir Singh, the response and the kind of comments you see from dudebros who are reacting to Kabir Singh criticism as if someone attacked their first born proves that the film didn’t work in spite of the misogyny, it worked BECAUSE of it. Unfortunately, for a lot of desi men, it represents their ultimate fantasy.

Well said. I worry more for the women who have internalised this subjugation of being so well. You can see them in droves even in this thread.

And it’s insane that we need to explain what consent is and how withdrawl of consent amounts to sexual assault even legally! Like that is insane!!! The conversation on this thread is enlightening in more ways than I thought was possible.

I think it’s futile to have any discussion on this movie anymore.

I may sound redundant at this point but I’ve seen 2 of my friends on the hands of abusive bf /husband. It’s not pretty. The way bright, confident , successful women become thin, scared is kind of scary. The whole demeanor changes. It’s infuriating to witness all that happen.

This movie propagates toxic masculinity and absolutely hate this movie. The most impressionable minds are filled with the idea that this kind of love is true love and that it ends well. boys replicate such behavior. Imagine your own being subjected to such stupid behavior. Your senior marks you as his and you have no choice. And if you somehow disagree he starts throwing temper tantrum. Abuses you, berates you and then goes on a self destructive spiral. Because he suddenly realizes that he doesn’t always get what he wants and that puppet he once marked as his can’t be his.

Let’s not go to the knife scene... so problematic.

Originally posted by: Shaitan-Haiwan

In this particular scenario its not. I checked with a lawyer

They need to be disbarred or have their license revoked. Please to be sharing details of this competent lawyer

Originally posted by: jyoti06

One small advice ..dont use the word rape so casually to win debates ..u clearly hv no idea about those who hv gone through that horror in their life ..I hv a family friend who went through the trauma ..I know what it is ..so hv clear idea what i m saying here ..

U need to really chill and if u really want a change in society ,dont expect that change via movies ,work fr it by helping those who actually hv gone through the horror of rape or sexual abuse ..

My arguments here will b flimsy bec i m argumenting on a film ,& not real life incident ..theres a huge difference betw both ..

If movies can really change mindsets then everyone will become a wonderful human being after watchinhg a rang de basanti ..lol

Good doesn't get transmit fast but bad definitely does. U r truly living in some sort of place away from reality.

Originally posted by: Charaiveti

yeah I feel disturbed actually n is making me remember some traumatic events. I better leave this thread now. Can't take this, would rather be delusional n live in a bubble where people understand consent

Am so sorry. Yeah some peeps and their so called opinions on this forum really aint worth remembering traumatic stuff for.

This thread's newly born debater MISHANAVI is banned .... from writing style any guesses who it was 😉😆