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Posted: 6 years ago
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I have no idea why girls stay with abusive bf, but I have seen it happen. Movies which glorifies misogyny normalizes the abusive relations.

So, there's this girl who was living in with a guy who beat her. Our society gossip auntie knew about it, but didn't complain. One days things escalated a bit too much and only then the girl left.

As a request, if you see a man misbehaving with his wife or gf, please raise your voice. Don't ignore 🙏

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: KhaanaBaDosh

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As a request, if you see a man misbehaving with his wife or gf, please raise your voice. Don't ignore 🙏

Why should I get involved in other peoples life? maine tekha le rakha hai sabka kya. If people want to stay in an abusive relationship, thats on them.


Nobody tells people ....if you see a saasu or bahu misbehaving with men then raise your voice?

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shaitan-Haiwan

Why should I get involved in other peoples life? maine tekha le rakha hai sabka kya. If people want to stay in an abusive relationship, thats on them.


Nobody tells people ....if you see a saasu or bahu misbehaving with men then raise your voice?

If you do, then it might make them think, that their behavior is not normal?

Irrespective of gender, if you can see a person being abused, help them?

I'm sure you have heard about "First they came for..." Poem

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Having movies always be politically or morally correct will be the death of cinema.

However, while movies cannot always show morally good characters, there needs to be a voice of reason in such films. Say for example, in Kabir Singh there could have been a character, say a friend of Preeti who could have educated her that she should have more agency and not let her crazy lover always have his way with her.

This can help the film address that the leads portrayed in it are problematic and not promote or glorify their misdeeds.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Kabir Singh is not suppose to be a hero , many ppl don’t realise and that’s the problem

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Outrage for a movie is stupid. Movies are supposed to be a form of art. It is a vision of someone that is portrayed on screen. If we go by this logic, we should never have any murder, rapist character in any movie? Why just focus on male lead? There would be many people who will like side character/ villain than hero.

People just want to run away from reality. They can not accept that their society is misogynistic and want to live in delusion. Movie is just slightly exaggerated version of reality which all movies are.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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I always get torned in this debate. Should movies take responsibility of what message they are giving out in society? I don't know, maybe they should, but then all movies will come under Sooraj Barjatya genre. I think glorification is the main problem here. But what glorification really means? For some people Khilji might be glorified, though he was shown as complete evil, but the character still looked cool. Is it right to make baddies look cool? People didn't hate him in the end like they are supposed to hate a villain. Again, why are we even supposed to hate a villain? No one is complete evil in real life, why make villain a complete black character who has no relatibility. He can have a likable human side. But I guess that will be glorifying his deeds.

Movies make smoking look cool, because they always show some rebellious guy or girl smoking in movies. It adds more personality to their character, but it also makes some nincompoops think that they too will become cool if they smoke. Swearing too is cool, though it should only be in English. Revenge is glorified in Hindi cinema since decades, but is it right to break law to take revenge? There are too many grey areas here.

What I do know is that a movie cannot always be about the good guy. Lead characters can do questionable things and can still be leads, and it's not necessary that there always be repurcussions for their actions. Because that doesn't always happen in real life either, does it? But I guess it should. No one is going to like it if the lead protagonist of a movie rapes a woman, and her family gets her married to him. That too happens in real life and is shown in movies of 80s. Now people call it regressive, but it's considered okay to swear, smoke, drink, even murder and stealing is kinda glorified in films.

I think this is where we draw the line. Misogyny is a problem, rape is a problem, terrorism is a problem. They are not shown as cool in movies because India has suffered alot by it. We hear about rape daily. Misogyny happens everywhere. Terrorism causes massacre. Anything which has affected our society to a large extent since decades or centuries is strongly discouraged to be glorified in movies. Though it's okay to glorify murder in name of revenge because not everyone is out there doing that and it's not affecting society alot.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: KhaanaBaDosh

I have no idea why girls stay with abusive bf, but I have seen it happen. Movies which glorifies misogyny normalizes the abusive relations.

So, there's this girl who was living in with a guy who beat her. Our society gossip auntie knew about it, but didn't complain. One days things escalated a bit too much and only then the girl left.

As a request, if you see a man misbehaving with his wife or gf, please raise your voice. Don't ignore 🙏

I am sorry i don't agree . I got involved in past but after a while in one case wife went back to husband and was all lovey dovey and they cut me off , in other case after initial anger died down wife didn't pay heed to suggestions given to her and patched up ...fought again after a while and did the same so i have stopped listening now . Tab se seekha kisi ke phhatey me tanng nahi ghusaani chahiye .

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: angrybread

I am sorry i don't agree . I got involved in past but after a while in one case wife went back to husband and was all lovey dovey and they cut me off , in other case after initial anger died down wife didn't pay heed to suggestions given to her and patched up ...fought again after a while and did the same so i have stopped listening now . Tab se seekha kisi ke phhatey me tanng nahi ghusaani chahiye .

never ever involve as third person bcoz they will unite and blame u in the end. Did d same for frnds and i was the one who got blamed. Now when other frnds fight, i dont try them to unite. Their issue their problem!

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Posted: 6 years ago
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well he abuses her, slaps her, even says she is nothing without him, but more than that wat troubled me is how he took ownership of preeti. he doesn't ask her on a date, he doesn't try to get to know her or even ask if she is interested, he just sees her, tells everyone she is his and thats it, they are in a relationship. and i have seen videos of guys cheering in the theatre over those scenes. the danger is guys taking inspiration that this is the way to get a girl, to take ownership of her and if she says no get angry and violent

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