Good guy making mistakes versus redeeming a bad guy - Page 18

Originally posted by: manzilmukul

Different people have opinions and that's why they are called opinions and not facts. The truth is that love from a psychological perspective can have many forms. According to Sternberg's triangular theory of love, it can have many forms. If Anurag-Prerna are soulmates, then Bajaj and Prerna could be 'Anam Cara' which is a Celtic version of 'Soul Friends'. What is love anyway- a teardrop from the mother's eyes when she sees her child, a smile of warmth when we choose to feed someone who is hungry.. likewise, there could be many forms.

Aristotle had once said, "Friendship is an art of holding up a mirror to each other's soul."

The soul yearns for companionship which is beyond the realms of need and greed, which transcends 'give and take', which touches it with divine light.

Soul friends are like mirrors- You can see an accurate reflection and reflect on them as well.

An 'Anam Cara' strips off masques and pretentions, sees your soul naked with all your bare emotions, establishes a sense of ease and basks you in the glory of joyous love. Such friendships are beyond space and time, gender and class. They are not mapped into charts of relationships, cerebral nor intellectual. Such love is neither physical nor emotional.

The Anam Cara holds you when you are weak, wraps you in a comfort blanket when you are cold with grief, wipes your tears in dark and dreary nights, stands for the truth- absolute or relative, makes you accept your follies and liberates you from prejudices.

In this fast-paced world, where friendships are based on 'Weekend Booze and rest of the time Snooze' culture, finding an 'Anam Cara' is like an oasis in the desert!

Like the first drops of rain on parched earth! Like the twinkle in the mother's eyes when she suckles her infant!

Like the grin of a child saving his favourite candy by stuffing it in his pockets- innocent and rare!

When you find your 'Anam Cara or your True Soul friend', hold them close to your mind and heart- keep them with all your might as such friendships are like a lifelong journey of bliss basking your soul in its splendid light of love, companionship and joy! I strongly believe Bajaj would be that to Prerna and Prerna to Bajaj.

@Bold He is indeed needed. What is otherwise a story? Leads falling in love and then what?

well its something new i learned loved it

well i too find pre bajaj has someconnection as u said its soulfried may be that is not love its only admire

same goes for kom she is anus antisoulmate as she is here to teach him everythingis not beauitifull

but soulmate r something different they make eachother so strong even it by giving pain

no wonder 99% ppl never find their soulmate

Bajaj is not a bad guy

Anurag is not a good guy

Both are flawed, Anurag was playing with two wives, Bajaj plays with money

Originally posted by: NoraSM

Bajaj is not a bad guy

Anurag is not a good guy

Both are flawed, Anurag was playing with two wives, Bajaj plays with money

wah nahi nahi wah

Originally posted by: moniloveanupre

well its something new i learned loved it

well i too find pre bajaj has someconnection as u said its soulfried may be that is not love its only admire

same goes for kom she is anus antisoulmate as she is here to teach him everythingis not beauitifull

but soulmate r something different yr they make eachother so strong even it by giving pain

no wonder 99% ppl never find their soulmate

But the only problem is, in a world of billions of people, it's really difficult to find ur soul mate or twin soul.

Anupre r twin souls(do jism ek jaan), they share a soul and bajaj and prerna can be soul mates, soul mates mean they belong to the same family of souls. So they might have common characteristics and can have good intimaticy between them.

Originally posted by: moniloveanupre

wah nahi nahi wah

I am sorry?

Originally posted by: manzilmukul

Thank you for your appreciation.

Well, grey is a term which people use for slightly edgy human beings. I prefer to call them Humans. Humans are above the 'Ms. Goody Two Shoes' portrayed in Hindi TV shows. Any character who is layered is always appreciated simply because it teases your brain. You tend to think about them, their actions, thoughts reflections. They compel you to invest your time and brain cells. And when you think about someone, you automatically trigger chemical reactions in your brain which transcends into involvement.

Humans are fascinating, so are their emotions. There is no right or wrong. There's nothing ideal. Everything is subjective.

@ Bold What is love, if not madness

I am becoming a fan of your views and thoughts! Thank q for sharing your valuable perspectives.. I feel like I am school and the teacher has just taught me something new which actually sunk in my brain as well..

Originally posted by: UKGirl22

Someone explain to me why when a god guy does something wrong he is vile, horrible and irredeemable. People find it difficult to relate and want the female lead to leave him .....

But

People seems to cheer for the good girl going into the life of a vile, irredeemable and horrible older person and try to make him good?

What am I missing and what is it in people that makes this realistic? I get when you have only one option and be whole story is a redemption one.... but what about where there are two options?

Request - please don’t respond to this telling me about something anruag did in year 4 of season 1 or bajaj did in year 5 of season 1. Let’s stick to season 2.That is not the point of this post and it will only make it a battle ground and the thread will get closed. If your reasons for wanting this track are all linked to you love for the season 1 character and the actor who played him and the actor who is playing him now -I get that .... just say season 1 + actor. Ryan Gosling could play a serial killer and I will be all 😍😍😍

Originally posted by: music_l0ver036

I haven't read any of the replies yet but I know the answer to your question. In any patriarchal society, it's the woman's job to change the man. It's always up to the woman to turn him from a beast to a human. It's accepted because we've been conditioned to believe that the role of the woman is to forgive men's mistakes. THat's how we've been living our entire lives. Yes, Anurag has been shown to be positive and a "good" guy but I don't want his mistakes to be forgiven easily either because he hasn't truly regretted his actions or recognized the faults in his behaviors. I will be just as critical if not more when it comes to Bajaj. Especially considering Prerna is going to be nothing but a mother to his daughter for good portion of the plot going forward. Prerna needs an individual and unique identity that is not tethered to the men in her lives. Until that happens I will be forever critical of everyone and everything.

Originally posted by: UKGirl22

All his acts today have been manipulative but Mohini is also manipulative... and there are lots of websites exalting her love as a mother. Being manipulative can be subjective and sometimes even love can manipulative, not to mention business.

I would say holding a gun to your business rival as is shown in the Precap is malevolent but that’s just me.

The main point I want discuss is the ageism comment.

I dont think it’s that simple to say that people finding the idea of a 20 year age difference, difficult to deal with are being ageist. Or that people who like anurag and prerna are only into the characters because they blindly like the actors. That’s unnecessarily belittling. Most people who like bajaj do so based because they like the actor now playing him or because in season 1 the precious actor did a amazing job with the role.

Put that completely to one side, in real life it is very very rare that people who are 22 and 44 have anything in common with each other. In an arranged marriage scenario, this age difference only exist to the disadvantage of the women. In the office atmosphere I often as pedagory men in power trying it on with women of my age.

Ageism exist in business, in the acting world, in society. All of that is true. But in love and marriage - the aim is to usually grow with someone and that’s rarely possible when two people have such a big difference in age and phase of love.

Can I just saw - it’s so nice to have a sensible discuss on this topic with you!

@Bold Its equally nice to discuss in a sensible manner!

@Mohini being glorified.

Well, in real life too, we come across manipulative mothers or people. Manipulation is a blurry term. We manipulate on a day to day basis- to find our way, to get a ride faster, to get promotions. Manipulation is a step ahead of a mind game. There are various conscious and unconscious mind games which people play. However, manipulation that leads to toxicity chokes not only the people but the person who manipulates. A mother's love is supposed to be selfless but her being selfish goes to show the fragility of human emotions. She is insecure. Having said that, her acts aren't justified. Her love is toxic!

@Bajaj being manipulative. Bajaj was ruthlessly manipulative today. No shying away from the fact here.

@Precap- Well, I would reserve my comments till the episode airs.

@ Ageism- Ahh, I am glad you brought it up. I would like to reiterate here that ageism word was in the context of Bajaj being called older, nothing else. Anurag and Prerna are characters and trust me half of the people can't separate actors from characters which goes for some Bajaj fans as well. There's a very thin boundary.

Erica and Parth are different from Anurag and Prerna. Here, they are characters and should be solely viewed as they are. Having said that, I would like to draw your attention to 'reverse ageism' as well. While there are biases against the older generation, a strong bias and stereotyping exist for the younger generation too. No matter how thoughtful they might be, but they are assumed to be superficial and shallow in their thought process. My problem is with both. Ageism or reverse ageism both are equally wrong.

@Office environment predatory men and their behaviours. Predatory behaviour of men exists in all age groups and across cultures. It simply stems from the propagation of species instinct of Homo Sapiens. However, we are not animals anymore, are we? Difference between predation in age gaps is their antics. A boy might not be that confident during it whereas a man hunts with pride, poise and confidence. I do not condone such behaviour at all. The kind of mindset our society has towards men and their predatory habits is sickening at times. This is a topic that needs a separate discussion. Women should raise their voices against such crimes! That is not acceptable.

Also, I don't endorse the idea of 'a love of a boy, the love of a man'-

Love is Love and let it be at that!

@Age Gaps and love being the idea of growing together.

I would have to disagree a bit here.

“Who would give a law to lovers? Love is unto itself a higher law.”

― Boethius, The Consolation Philosophy

When you are in love age, time, moments, time span doesn't matter. Love transcends all such narrow loyalties. Trust me, I am not in favour of forceful marriages and evil predatory behaviour. But Bajaj has my interest piqued. And hence, an intrigue to watch his journey and how he evolves and acts as a fillip for the sequential turn in the life of other characters.

Originally posted by: manzilmukul

@Bold Its equally nice to discuss in a sensible manner!

@Mohini being glorified.

Well, in real life too, we come across manipulative mothers or people. Manipulation is a blurry term. We manipulate on a day to day basis- to find our way, to get a ride faster, to get promotions. Manipulation is a step ahead of a mind game. There are various conscious and unconscious mind games which people play. However, manipulation that leads to toxicity chokes not only the people but the person who manipulates. A mother's love is supposed to be selfless but her being selfish goes to show the fragility of human emotions. She is insecure. Having said that, her acts aren't justified. Her love is toxic!

@Bajaj being manipulative. Bajaj was ruthlessly manipulative today. No shying away from the fact here.

@Precap- Well, I would reserve my comments till the episode airs.

@ Ageism- Ahh, I am glad you brought it up. I would like to reiterate here that ageism word was in the context of Bajaj being called older, nothing else. Anurag and Prerna are characters and trust me half of the people can't separate actors from characters which goes for some Bajaj fans as well. There's a very thin boundary.

Erica and Parth are different from Anurag and Prerna. Here, they are characters and should be solely viewed as they are. Having said that, I would like to draw your attention to 'reverse ageism' as well. While there are biases against the older generation, a strong bias and stereotyping exist for the younger generation too. No matter how thoughtful they might be, but they are assumed to be superficial and shallow in their thought process. My problem is with both. Ageism or reverse ageism both are equally wrong.

@Office environment predatory men and their behaviours. Predatory behaviour of men exists in all age groups and across cultures. It simply stems from the propagation of species instinct of Homo Sapiens. However, we are not animals anymore, are we? Difference between predation in age gaps is their antics. A boy might not be that confident during it whereas a man hunts with pride, poise and confidence. I do not condone such behaviour at all. The kind of mindset our society has towards men and their predatory habits is sickening at times. This is a topic that needs a separate discussion. Women should raise their voices against such crimes! That is not acceptable.

Also, I don't endorse the idea of 'a love of a boy, the love of a man'-

Love is Love and let it be at that!

@Age Gaps and love being the idea of growing together.

I would have to disagree a bit here.

“Who would give a law to lovers? Love is unto itself a higher law.”

― Boethius, The Consolation Philosophy

When you are in love age, time, moments, time span doesn't matter. Love transcends all such narrow loyalties. Trust me, I am not in favour of forceful marriages and evil predatory behaviour. But Bajaj has my interest piqued. And hence, an intrigue to watch his journey and how he evolves and acts as a fillip for the sequential turn in the life of other characters.

Why else would there be gay and lesbian couples, love transcends all physical parameters, but yes when u talk about compatibility, people of a certain age can be more compatible, since they have a lot of common factors to bond, but then sometimes in spite of all those common factors human interaction and bondings sometimes tends to be shallow.

The bottom line is there is no hard and fast rule, love can happen with anyone, anytime, anywhere,and it happens in a fleeting moment.