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Posted: 6 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Amy142

If everyone went with the principle of an eye for an eye, I wonder how many people would be alive in this world. Of course senior Mittals are at fault. But kavya and her son are totally innocent.

Then again if she kills the Mittal she will be called a murderer the police by hook or by crook will find out then instead of clearing her father name it will malign it more they (people9 will say as father as daughter....

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Posted: 6 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: shruzzy

Yeaaa in that way you are right dear that why she didn't felt fishy or why she immediately believed kabir and in one of the episode she said she trust kabir as much as she trusted vyom and one of my biggest reason to drag special agent episode was that kavya would have easily suspected kabir that he is real traitor and he only made vyom traitor because he wanted a clean chit for himself and as vyom has died it would be easy for him but as the makers have shown vyom asking kabir to take care of his family as his own family it would be a bit difficult but as many says its ITV it was possible and it was trp drama too...meanwhile PK mittal would have done kabirks shraddh and that would have made kabir realise that what is the meaning of being ill treated by own people and society as well may be that way janhvi would feel sympathise towards the younger clan and whole story would have got a proper line we could have got enough acting and ss and justified stories of all the actors including kavya and kabir.....but truth is what we are getting and what we will get and till then yes i ' m fan of shrenu i m here for her and I would like to clarify that i m her fan because of her acting skills and for me all other actors from are new specially zain imam and tanvi dogra and ishaan so i will judge them by their character and acting skills....

Yes . We can argue in another way related to this topic. Kabir is PK's blood. Why don't he get a bit of his father's nature. Kabir might have an eye with Kavya. He wanted to marry kavya but Vyom was the obstacle of Kabir. So he used his special agent power to remove Vyom. He had met the enquiry to get Kavya's sympathy even though he had a chance to avoid it.

PS. I didn't write this to hurt Zain's fans. I am Shrenu fan. I can participate in the argument of Jaanvi's activities if it will be written only for normal arguments.

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Posted: 6 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: Sumita18

No Point Arguing 😆 becase you cant change others's thinking ...Ignoring is the best ..why waste time explaining 😆

As i said Vyom-Kavya-Kabir plot was weak since day one , its plainly writers fault as they did not give importance to these characters on this track...

I also felt the same. If they didn't take the double agent matter again I would not write anything related to this topic.

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Posted: 6 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: krithi1990

I also felt the same. If they didn't take the double agent matter again I would not write anything related to this topic.

Makers Rushed the track and ended it way too fast ..made Vyom Double Agent and Kabir Secret Agent .. it was very bad move by writers ....I mean Kavya and Kabir never got any indication about Vyom being double agent ??? Vyom loved his wife, Son , Kavya Loved Vyom ( Kavya emotionle burst out with Jhanvi ) and suddenly during fight writer made Vyom Double Agent ..Stupid Writing .. thats it ...

Edited by Sumita18 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: ALUJNA21

Then again if she kills the Mittal she will be called a murderer the police by hook or by crook will find out then instead of clearing her father name it will malign it more they (people9 will say as father as daughter....

Dear I assume you are watching the show thoroughly here from day 1 it is promoted that janhvi will kill everyone but in reality she wasn't able to kill manohar also so she won't kill any only that she doesn't have proofs she is taking revenge to get their truths out may be she will harm them emotionally or bit physically but i dont think janhvi will kill them otherwise it would have been done by now atleast for one member....and yea i agree that dragging aarush is not right but also we have seen that she will never harm arush in direct way also it was shown during medicine fiasco that she spared kavya for once but if she tries to come in between she will no leave that matter and i guess she is going that way and she will help for arush studies in someway i believe that so lets wait and watch about it
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Posted: 6 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: sammy17

Because our morals subconsciously make us like positive characters more. I like jhanvi and find her revenge completely justified, but that doesn't mean all her actions aren't questionable. Her having previously said that even if dhruv and kabir die in her games so be it, her actions against kavya, giving wrong medicine to suman and now the school admission thing are actions that I find questionable of jhanvi.

@bold on point!👏

Glad I am not the only one who has the same view.

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Posted: 6 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: Amy142

Wait wait, if this show fails or shuts shop soon, one actor's effort, however good he or she is cannot save it.

Sure, janhvi's story is revolving around her. But the characters immediately connected to her are not being explored. That doesn't mean that those characters don't have valid reasons to behave as they are behaving.

All the actors are working so hard to make this show a success, but unfortunately writers have failed to create a convincing and gripping script. Shrenu as jhanvi alone cannot shoulder this whole show for the necessary drama quotient as its a team effort. And I'm probably one of the few people who doesn't find it weird that neither kavya or kabir suspected vyom to be a double agent. How would they, or at least how would kavya? It's not like he was doing all his activities from home, plus given how I am a huge history and crime buff, plenty of families went years not knowing their own loved one, husband/ father was a serial killer (this is bloody real life stuff too, whereas vyom is merely fictional). Vyom's activities were that of a double agent for the army, so how on earth would kavya know that her husband is working for terrorists against the indian army? Even kabir didn't get to know until he witnessed it when they were out on the field on duty. Nothing unbelievable there. Would be very convenient if he was in contact with terrorists from home too, but then how would he keep it a secret from kavya? Double agents aren't going to have it written all over them in their behaviour that they're hiding something. Look at professor snape. We watched him for years but never suspected he was a double agent working against voldemort and was in love with lily potter.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: sammy17

All the actors are working so hard to make this show a success, but unfortunately writers have failed to create a convincing and gripping script. Shrenu as jhanvi alone cannot shoulder this whole show for the necessary drama quotient as its a team effort. And I'm probably one of the few people who doesn't find it weird that neither kavya or kabir suspected vyom to be a double agent. How would they, or at least how would kavya? It's not like he was doing all his activities from home, plus given how I am a huge history and crime buff, plenty of families went years not knowing their own loved one, husband/ father was a serial killer (this is bloody real life stuff too, whereas vyom is merely fictional). Vyom's activities were that of a double agent for the army, so how on earth would kavya know that her husband is working for terrorists against the indian army? Even kabir didn't get to know until he witnessed it when they were out on the field on duty. Nothing unbelievable there. Would be very convenient if he was in contact with terrorists from home too, but then how would he keep it a secret from kavya? Double agents aren't going to have it written all over them in their behaviour that they're hiding something. Look at professor snape. We watched him for years but never suspected he was a double agent working against voldemort and was in love with lily potter.

Ha ha, people think that a double agent should go about screaming that he is a double agent(coz he is a baddie) , but a special agent shouldn't be exposed coz he is the good guy. Talk about thinking logically🤣

They didn't show us any of vyom 's suspicious activities, most dramas and shows about such agents are about their double lives. I would think that he was good at his job, albeit bad job. The irony.

I liked today's episode where kavya screams her frustration about how she was betrayed. Some progress.

Edited by Amy142 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: krithi1990

First of all there should be a valid reason for her immediate remarriage after her beloved husband's death. A girl's mind don't accept another man in her life so easily. It takes some months or years to consider an another man.

Secondly, there may be a valid reason for her remarriage. For that she should not have believed immediately what she had heard about her husband after his death. Now Arush is a small boy. He can ask his mother in his adult age that what steps were taken to prove his dad may be an innocent. Still anyone don't know that why Vyom changed as a double agent. Was it for money or under any pressure. Maybe he was threatened by the terrorists. It seemed Vyom had no other relatives except his wife. If he had the parents definitely they tried something for theirs son. But Kavya didn't try to turn a single stone. This was a major drawback in Kavya's side.

Lol youI talking as if you didnt see the show from start.

Kavya married Kabir becoz of Vyom dying wish only. This topic has been discussed the nth time and you guys still point fingers????? And if you denying all that discussion then nobody can convince you clearly.

And lol its not like Kavya is completely over Vyom. Yabir are not like married couple in true sense. They are still awkward in moments and have a friendship kinda relation.

Its Kabir who gave her this news of Vyom. Remember Kavya trusts Kabir, why would she doubt him about Vyom's truth?

Even for the audience it was shown that Vyom was indeed a double agent. Why should Kavya set to prove Vyom innocent when he clearly is not?

And here we missing the point that Kabir and Kavya friendship was independent of Kavya being married to Vyom. Why should she not believe Kabir?

I mean its Kabir whom we talking about.

Edited by sumz_d - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: sumz_d

Lol youI talking as if you didnt see the show from start.

Kavya married Kabir becoz of Vyom dying wish only. This topic has been discussed the nth time and you guys still point fingers????? And if you denying all that discussion then nobody can convince you clearly.

And lol its not like Kavya is completely over Vyom. Yabir are not like married couple in true sense. They are still awkward in moments and have a friendship kinda relation.

Its Kabir who gave her this news of Vyom. Remember Kavya trusts Kabir, why would she doubt him about Vyom's truth?

Even for the audience it was shown that Vyom was indeed a double agent. Why should Kavya set to prove Vyom innocent when he clearly is not?

And here we missing the point that Kabir and Kavya friendship was independent of Kavya being married to Vyom. Why should she not believe Kabir?

I mean its Kabir whom we talking about.

Far fetched theories as of now. Like trump's alternative facts, lol. Don't waste your breath arguing.

Let's wait and watch the daily show and not expect all to be revealed in 1 episode like some folks here advised me before. But sadly forgot to apply it on themselves when tables were turned.

Edited by Amy142 - 6 years ago

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