Why 1.6 trp - Page 13

Originally posted by: Salutethearmy

BARC INDIA itself is owned by industry associations, primarily , advertising agencies which connect with all the mncs or companies that book or place their ads on spot basis have created a monopoly in the TV space.

Unfortunately IB ministry or TRAI irrespective of governments that have come and gone are still unable to get through or infuse rules and regulations in a sector whose decisions are in the hands of private agencies.

In that aspect everything is skewed as data can be changed even by the operator who works on compiling data sheets. At each and every level anyone can be corrupt. We are free to conclude anything.

So all advertisers who pay through their noses to GECs are very much dependant on ratings which go to them daily. Prime time is 8 to 10 pm and then there are non prime time hours.

A fall of 0.1 to 0.8 or 0.9 effect revenue and advertisers can bargain which reduces feasibility. It also depends on how rich the PH is or budget per episode is variable or reasonable. If actors charge on a pro rata basis. For a GEC like Sony who do not have those kind of ratings for all their shows ,consider online revenue too. That is why YUDKBH is their flagship. For the rest of them what comes every Thursday is full and final.

Barc and Trai have requested GECs to go slow on their shows till the new rules set in and the entire process is completed. Unfortunately advertisers dont care about occupational hazards or bottle necks and have upper hand in their deals. online views, are making a dent, however, there are no authorised agencies to assimilate and publish a foolproof data list week after week.

TRPs which are released by BARC matter the most to SP, Colors and Zee. Then it depends on the relationship maintained by Phs with their respective channels.

You have to give the benefit of doubt to BARC. If there were serious malpractices, BARC would’ve been thrown out!

Leave trp analysis to those data analyst employed by Star Plus. I bet even they are in a fix as to what to do

I am sure TV audiences like Bollywood scoops. Anying related to scandal. Game for it.

These days their idols fall in and out love. Promises are broken. EMA, MUs, single parents ,even complex parent child relationships etc etc.

Over and above plenty of ideas from real life incidents, rigid traditions, cultural effects, crimes.

Ekta, Gul, Rashmi have cashed on the above added their own bit to create storylines and got those coveted rating points

@Ishraian .You spoke about Bepannaah

BP fans never accepted anything with grace. Neither story or trps. Many are still trolling either Rangeela, Jen or Harshad.

They accepted Jenshad as a pair. No one was ashamed about their chemistry which had a raw physical touch to it. Fan girls discovered that there is a senior actor called Harshad who acts and looks good.

Trps and colors are inverse in ratio. BP time slots changed hands thrice, invariably, telecast time delayed. Differences cropped between Cinevistaas and Programming executives which was termed as a slip between the cup and lip by the former.

Once FD discovered nothing could be done they voted crazily for Jen, Harshad, Aniruddh and got them awards. That hastag on twitter never slept.

Originally posted by: Winnertakesital

Leave trp analysis to those data analyst employed by Star Plus. I bet even they are in a fix as to what to do

I am sure TV audiences like Bollywood scoops. Anying related to scandal. Game for it.

These days their idols fall in and out love. Promises are broken. EMA, MUs, single parents ,even complex parent child relationships etc etc.

Over and above plenty of ideas from real life incidents, rigid traditions, cultural effects, crimes.

Ekta, Gul, Rashmi have cashed on the above added their own bit to create storylines and got those coveted rating points

@Ishraian .You spoke about Bepannaah

BP fans never accepted anything with grace. Neither story or trps. Many are still trolling either Rangeela, Jen or Harshad.

They accepted Jenshad as a pair. No one was ashamed about their chemistry which had a raw physical touch to it. Fan girls discovered that there is a senior actor called Harshad who acts and looks good.

Trps and colors are inverse in ratio. BP time slots changed hands thrice, invariably, telecast time delayed. Differences cropped between Cinevistaas and Programming executives which was termed as a slip between the cup and lip by the former.

Once FD discovered nothing could be done they voted crazily for Jen, Harshad, Aniruddh and got them awards. That hastag on twitter never slept.

About Bepannah’s journey:

The show started on Top 5. However people stopped watching the show after 2-3 weeks and it did badly at the 9 pm slot. So the channel pushed it to 9:30 pm. Even there unfortunately the show did badly. So once again the show was pushed to 10:30 pm.

When BP launched at 10:30 pm, it’s fans were boasting that it’d easily become slot leader since YHM, which aired at the same slot, was no competition to Bepannah. Yeah, BP did get better ratings for the first two weeks after launching at 10:30 pm. But after that once again people stopped watching. After that BP was always at No.3 at 10:30 pm. A while latter the telecast time was pushed by Colors without any notification. But by then the show had already lost to YHM and AAJS.

I’d say Colors did give the show 3 chances. What can they do if people stopped watching after 1-2 weeks at every slot it aired at?! I agree that airing at irregular times was unfair to the show. But the point is that the show had already lost out to the other shows by the time such mishaps began.

By all standards, the show was a flop. Hence the channel had to axe the show. Anyway Colors was no doing well by itself as a channel.

And about Twitter trends, TV audience is much bigger than tweeples. There is no comparison.

Originally posted by: Winnertakesital

Leave trp analysis to those data analyst employed by Star Plus. I bet even they are in a fix as to what to do

I am sure TV audiences like Bollywood scoops. Anying related to scandal. Game for it.

These days their idols fall in and out love. Promises are broken. EMA, MUs, single parents ,even complex parent child relationships etc etc.

Over and above plenty of ideas from real life incidents, rigid traditions, cultural effects, crimes.

Ekta, Gul, Rashmi have cashed on the above added their own bit to create storylines and got those coveted rating points

@Ishraian .You spoke about Bepannaah

BP fans never accepted anything with grace. Neither story or trps. Many are still trolling either Rangeela, Jen or Harshad.

They accepted Jenshad as a pair. No one was ashamed about their chemistry which had a raw physical touch to it. Fan girls discovered that there is a senior actor called Harshad who acts and looks good.

Trps and colors are inverse in ratio. BP time slots changed hands thrice, invariably, telecast time delayed. Differences cropped between Cinevistaas and Programming executives which was termed as a slip between the cup and lip by the former.

Once FD discovered nothing could be done they voted crazily for Jen, Harshad, Aniruddh and got them awards. That hastag on twitter never slept.

I’d like to quote Gul Khan here.

“A small bunch of people tweeting about the show is not enough for a show to survive!”

Originally posted by: IshRaian

About Bepannah’s journey:

The show started on Top 5. However people stopped watching the show after 2-3 weeks and it did badly at the 9 pm slot. So the channel pushed it to 9:30 pm. Even there unfortunately the show did badly. So once again the show was pushed to 10:30 pm.

When BP launched at 10:30 pm, it’s fans were boasting that it’d easily become slot leader since YHM, which aired at the same slot, was no competition to Bepannah. Yeah, BP did get better ratings for the first two weeks after launching at 10:30 pm. But after that once again people stopped watching. After that BP was always at No.3 at 10:30 pm. A while latter the telecast time was pushed by Colors without any notification. But by then the show had already lost to YHM and AAJS.

I’d say Colors did give the show 3 chances. What can they do if people stopped watching after 1-2 weeks at every slot it aired at?! I agree that airing at irregular times was unfair to the show. But the point is that the show had already lost out to the other shows by the time such mishaps began.

By all standards, the show was a flop. Hence the channel had to axe the show. Anyway Colors was no doing well by itself as a channel.

And about Twitter trends, TV audience is much bigger than tweeples. There is no comparison.

Colors launched 3 shows BP, Silsila and Roop. it is a tradition to delay telecast time by 15 mins. Agreed. The old management did this juggad when shows were established. Since 2017 - 18 decisions by Rangeela management resemble a tennis ball.

A new show should not be delayed by 10, 15, 20, 22 or 25 mins. BP used to come on air @ 9.15, 9,20,9.22, 9.25, or 9.30, 9.35,9.40,9.45,9.50 , 10,30, 10.35, 10.45, 10.55 Pm

Trp is calculated only at prime time. YHM gave 1.3 between 10.30 and 11 pm. BP had only 15 , 10 or 5 mins. BARC published 1.1 for everthing post 10 pm.

The current crop of exes became trp crazy. KZK against Shakti or Udaan vs others., their numbers dipped, half an hour gets extended to 45 mins ( where was d need, Shakti and Udaan are hits.

Interchanged BB with BP, Roop and Silsila. What was the outcome. No gain.

Colors brought Vish and tantra as replacements? Their decisions were disastrous.

Sony played around with YUDKBH due to KBC, Ratings dipped to 0.5. Its still there.

Suppose Star and Zee behaved in the same manner how many TV audiences will be faithful their serials.

Bepannaah's script was only for 15 months. No one had the patience to give a 3 months extension. In 15 months, BP and Vish got axed, Tantra too went up in the Air. Sisila shifted to Voot.

Shakti Arora spoke up, he asked what is the use when we are giving 1.1 @ 11.20 pm

Unlike SP, actors connected to colors knew about online ratings, they spoke to fans asking everyone to watch on TV too.. yeah bhagyas or yhm TV audiences should be awarded noble prizes for tolerating them till 5 yrs

Internal politics, lack of vision is the main cause as to why colors isn't doing well. They can survive, currently again in a process of revamp.

Twitter tweepes got awards for BP.

Done with trp debate. I think everyone knows what is required to keep the candles burning.

Off air shows either leave with a bang or just disappear. Recall value is necessary ( as quoted by a member in previous posts).

Originally posted by: Winnertakesital

Colors launched 3 shows BP, Silsila and Roop. it is a tradition to delay telecast time by 15 mins. Agreed. The old management did this juggad when shows were established. Since 2017 - 18 decisions by Rangeela management resemble a tennis ball.

A new show should not be delayed by 10, 15, 20, 22 or 25 mins. BP used to come on air @ 9.15, 9,20,9.22, 9.25, or 9.30, 9.35,9.40,9.45,9.50 , 10,30, 10.35, 10.45, 10.55 Pm

Trp is calculated only at prime time. YHM gave 1.3 between 10.30 and 11 pm. BP had only 15 , 10 or 5 mins. BARC published 1.1 for everthing post 10 pm.

The current crop of exes became trp crazy. KZK against Shakti or Udaan vs others., their numbers dipped, half an hour gets extended to 45 mins ( where was d need, Shakti and Udaan are hits.

Interchanged BB with BP, Roop and Silsila. What was the outcome. No gain.

Colors brought Vish and tantra as replacements? Their decisions were disastrous.

Sony played around with YUDKBH due to KBC, Ratings dipped to 0.5. Its still there.

Suppose Star and Zee behaved in the same manner how many TV audiences will be faithful their serials.

Bepannaah's script was only for 15 months. No one had the patience to give a 3 months extension. In 15 months, BP and Vish got axed, Tantra too went up in the Air. Sisila shifted to Voot.

Shakti Arora spoke up, he asked what is the use when we are giving 1.1 @ 11.20 pm

Unlike SP, actors connected to colors knew about online ratings, they spoke to fans asking everyone to watch on TV too.. yeah bhagyas or yhm TV audiences should be awarded noble prizes for tolerating them till 5 yrs

Internal politics, lack of vision is the main cause as to why colors isn't doing well. They can survive, currently again in a process of revamp.

Twitter tweepes got awards for BP.

BARC does not release TRP for 10 minutes. It is for the entire 30 minute duration. If your show started at 10:50, then your show’s TRP actually has contribution from people watching the show before yours. Don’t talk bull shit.

And this irregular telecast happened only towards the end before closure. First understand that channels get much more detailed data with time spent in a slot etc. They know what numbers a show is taking more than you and me.

A show which went off air due to low TRP doesn’t have much recall value among actual TV audience. So...

Not all shows are meant to be success. Accept with grace that BP failed to work with the TV audience.

And don’t compare it with YHM. When YHM launched at 11 pm , YHM used to get more TRP than shows at 9 pm and 9:30 pm despite airing at a late night slot of 11 pm. So make no comparison between a 8 month old show with a 66 months old show.

I too followed BP from the start to the finish, after 2 months of being on air, colors changed time slots as Roop came in between.

Terrible irregularities in telecast, at any given point the show used to start, remember waiting. Glad that SP is better off.

it is true then, Bepannaah trp was never at actuals and the others also had a similar fate. That is why Salil Sand in his tweets bluntly stated that BP fd has to watch Roop or Udaan even if they don't want to as 10 mins wont give exact numbers.

Recall value is as per your perspective. For each FD their show is iconic over others.

This thread is very informative.

Originally posted by: IshRaian

BARC does not release TRP for 10 minutes. It is for the entire 30 minute duration. If your show started at 10:50, then your show’s TRP actually has contribution from people watching the show before yours. Don’t talk bull shit.

And this irregular telecast happened only towards the end before closure. First understand that channels get much more detailed data with time spent in a slot etc. They know what numbers a show is taking more than you and me.

A show which went off air due to low TRP doesn’t have much recall value among actual TV audience. So...

Not all shows are meant to be success. Accept with grace that BP failed to work with the TV audience.

And don’t compare it with YHM. When YHM launched at 11 pm , YHM used to get more TRP than shows at 9 pm and 9:30 pm despite airing at a late night slot of 11 pm. So make no comparison between a 8 month old show with a 66 months old show.

Whatever you say. This is a very generic discussion and not your words against mine.

All of us have choices. The right to choose content and mediums remains with viewers. Since OTT platforms have started some shows are online hits and the others are high on ratings.

Thank you.

Originally posted by: Salutethearmy

I too followed BP from the start to the finish, after 2 months of being on air, colors changed time slots as Roop came in between.

Terrible irregularities in telecast, at any given point the show used to start, remember waiting. Glad that SP is better off.

it is true then, Bepannaah trp was never at actuals and the others also had a similar fate. That is why Salil Sand in his tweets bluntly stated that BP fd has to watch Roop or Udaan even if they don't want to as 10 mins wont give exact numbers.

Recall value is as per your perspective. For each FD their show is iconic over others.

This thread is very informative.

I keep telling this every time:

“To each his own”

We all are entitled to our opinions. I am open to healthy discussions. I also feel so should others be. That is how we can broaden our thinking.