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In every Chandragupta Maurya show they show Chandra was son of an ex King murdered and his mom is prisoner of Dhananand

But in reality Chandra gupta was found as baby in cow shed by his adopted parents Dharma and Mura

He never had a own family and could never find who his family or parents were

His adopted father was a peackock heardsmen and hence name Maurya means Peakock (in modern times its called Mor)

In jain texts his fathers name is Sarvatha Siddhi but thats not his real father

Since he converted to jainism in his later years they just named his father as that





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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hi prem so gd to c u aftr ages on d forum... dt too frm a ja forum... 😊hope to c u regularly on dis forum😊
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CGM was a very private person when it came to his family.
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Originally posted by: harshu27

Hi prem so gd to c u aftr ages on d forum... dt too frm a ja forum... 😊hope to c u regularly on dis forum😊



Thanks harshu good to see u

i am on DEM and this forum


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CGM mom(foster mom) was beheaded by Dhananand
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Okay , but there are so many stories that i think even writers are confused...😆
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Let me add my two pennyworth to this thread of my young friend Prem's. I was not planning to write anything about this murky subject at all, but habit triumphs over one's inclinations. 😉

Now it seems to me, going by the various theories I was already familiar with, like the Buddhist one about Chandragupta belonging to the Sakya clan of the Lord Buddha, and the material sure to be collated and presented in this forum by the superbly meticulous Abhay (history_geek) - or at least I hope so, and if not I shall miss him sorely - that there is no shortage of versions of Chandragupta's origins, and all the related issues like Mura's identity and the like. It is like a supermarket - you look around and you take your pick. It could be true or it could be untrue. Nothing and no one can conclusively prove that your choice is the latter.

The version shown here has a lot going for it, especially the Piplivan connection. So let us not fret and fume about historical accuracy, for no one knows what that is for this pre-Mauryan period, or indeed for a lot else.

And let us not indulge in obiter dicta about this or that which might or might not have happened in Chandragupta's life, for all the world as if we had been around then and had actually seen it.😉

Instead, let us relax and try and enjoy what we can from what we are shown. There is much to amuse one here, and I shall try and do a dramatis personae, to lighten everyone's mood if for nothing else!


Shyamala Aunty

Edited by sashashyam - 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Let me add my two pennyworth to this thread of my young friend Prem's. I was not planning to write anything about this murky subject at all, but habit triumphs over one's inclinations. 😉


Now it seems to me, going by the various theories I was already familiar with, like the Buddhist one about Chandragupta belonging to the Sakya clan of the Lord Buddha, and the material sure to be collated and presented in this forum by the superbly meticulous Abhay (history_geek) - or at least I hope so, and if not I shall miss him sorely - that there is no shortage of versions of Chandragupta's origins, and all the related issues like Mura's identity and the like. It is like a supermarket - you look around and you take your pick. It could be true or it could be untrue. Nothing and no one can conclusively prove that your choice is the latter.

The version shown here has a lot going for it, especially the Piplivan connection. So let us not fret and fume about historical accuracy, for no one knows what that is for this pre-Mauryan period, or indeed for a lot else.

And let us not indulge in obiter dicta about this or that which might or might not have happened in Chandragupta's life, for all the world as if we had be around then and had actually seen it.😉

Instead, let us relax and try and enjoy what we can from what we are shown. There is much to amuse one here, and I shall try and do a dramatis personae, to lighten everyone's mood if for nothing else!


Shyamala Aunty


Aunty

Good to see you on this forum

What i wrote is what many book say

Buddist book says hes sakya clan from piplivaan but there is no proof

Some say hes sudra some kshatriya etc




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It is good to be back with you too, my dear Prem.

But you see, though many books might be supporting what you said, and there might be no proof for the theory that Chandragupta Maurya belonged to the Sakya clan of the Lord Buddha, neither means much.

See, with the total destruction of the Nalanda Universtiy by Bakhtiyar Khilji, and the similar destruction of Takshashila Vishwavidyalaya, most of what could have been decisive evidence for all these matters that interest us now, was destroyed.

So now, folks are being forced to work on a very thin slice of historical evidence. One cannot make any categoric decisions one way or the other in this basis, and I frankly have no intention of joining in all these speculations, for that is all they can be.

As for Chandragupta Maurya, who was clearly a very great warrior, being a Kshatriya or not, that is a matter that cannot be decided on the basis of the currently available evidence. And how does it matter, anyway? He was a great warrior and a great emperor, and that is it.

I am in two minds now as to whether to do my dramatis personae post at all. It takes me a lot of effort, with my painful, rheumatic fingers, and it seems that there is hardly anyone around to read it. It just does not seem worth the effort.

The Porus forum was the same, tiny and apathetic, as are the current forums for Karnsangini and Radhakrishn.

Finally, I do not understand this great urge in production houses to repeatedly make shows about Chandragupta Maurya, which are bound to be affected by the law of diminishing returns. Why does no one think of making a serial on Skandagupta, who fought off the Huns, who were far, far more destructive than Alexander could ever have been?

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: myviewprem


Aunty

Good to see you on this forum

What i wrote is what many book say

Buddist book says hes sakya clan from piplivaan but there is no proof

Some say hes sudra some kshatriya etc

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Let me add my two pennyworth to this thread of my young friend Prem's. I was not planning to write anything about this murky subject at all, but habit triumphs over one's inclinations. 😉


Now it seems to me, going by the various theories I was already familiar with, like the Buddhist one about Chandragupta belonging to the Sakya clan of the Lord Buddha, and the material sure to be collated and presented in this forum by the superbly meticulous Abhay (history_geek) - or at least I hope so, and if not I shall miss him sorely - that there is no shortage of versions of Chandragupta's origins, and all the related issues like Mura's identity and the like. It is like a supermarket - you look around and you take your pick. It could be true or it could be untrue. Nothing and no one can conclusively prove that your choice is the latter.

The version shown here has a lot going for it, especially the Piplivan connection. So let us not fret and fume about historical accuracy, for no one knows what that is for this pre-Mauryan period, or indeed for a lot else.

And let us not indulge in obiter dicta about this or that which might or might not have happened in Chandragupta Maurya's life, for all the world as if we had be around then and had actually seen it.😉

Instead, let us relax and try and enjoy what we can from what we are shown. There is much to amuse one here, and I shall try and do a dramatis personae, to lighten everyone's mood if for nothing else!


Shyamala Aunty



Edited by sashashyam - 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

It is good to be back with you too, my dear Prem.

But you see, though many books might be supporting what you said, and there might be no proof for the theory that Chandragupta Maurya belonged to the Sakya clan of the Lord Buddha, neither means much.

See, with the total destruction of the Nalanda Universtiy by Bakhtiyar Khilji, and the similar destruction of Takshashila Vishwavidyalaya, most of what could have been decisive evidence for all these matters that interest us now, was destroyed.

So now, folks are being forced to work on a very thin slice of historical evidence. One cannot make any categoric decisions one way or the other in this basis, and I frankly have no intention of joining in all these speculations, for that is all they can be.

As for Chandragupta Maurya, who was clearly a very great warrior, being a Kshatriya or not, that is a matter that cannot be decided on the basis of the currently available evidence. And how does it matter, anyway? He was a great warrior and a great emperor, and that is it.

I am in two minds now as to whether to do my dramatis personae post at all. It takes me a lot of effort, with my painful, rheumatic fingers, and it seems that there is hardly anyone around to read it. It just does not seem worth the effort.

The Porus forum was the same, tiny and apathetic, as are the current forums for Karnsangini and Radhakrishn.

Finally, I do not understand this great urge in production houses to repeatedly make shows about Chandragupta Maurya, which are bound to be affected by the law of diminishing returns. Why does no one think of making a serial on Skandagupta, who fought off the Huns, who were far, far more destructive than Alexander could ever have been?

Shyamala Aunty



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Maybe because no show has shown his story properly.
Old CGM was shut down abruptly, Chandra nandini can't be called his story at all and this one is gonna mess it up even more. Why make shows on him when you can't even research about him properly. chakravartin ashok established darling cornelia as vamp because of which story of cgm suffers Everytime.

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