Oh, how romantic...NOT!

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Posted: 6 years ago
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So I posted alot of what I'm going to say now in a response to another thread -- so if you read the bulk of it there, that's why this sounds repetitive and familiar.

But everything that is happening right now just has me seeing red. King rots in jail waiting for Pragya to accomplish...um, what exactly?

His stay in jail is pointless. I mean he even told Pragya before she ran off to "challenge-outsmart-be the other woman-nokjhok-almost marry" Abhi -- to simply call a lawyer. But nooo. Of course Pragya can't do that. Because she can reason with everyone right? She spent 4 years with those people and she thinks she can Tanu herself all up into Mehra Mansion and get them to comply??? 😆😆

I'm sorry, but Pragya cannot be that stupid. It's obvious why she didn't call a lawyer and Tanu was 100% right. I mean, why call a lawyer and fix a problem in an hour when you can have an excuse to run off to the jungles and flirt-but-say-you're-not-flirting with your ex. 👏

Bubbly is NOT a minor. Pragya having been all about the Mehra's for 4 years should have known that. I mean, you got your sister off on some pretty serious charges for apparently having convinced her cricketer best friend for carrying her supposed drugs and claiming they were his. but you couldn't get a lawyer to argue by pulling Neha's birth certificate or school records to prove she's of legal age???


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You know, people continuously ask me, "gurrrl why do you still watch this show if you hate it so much?!" And the reason is simple:
1) I wasted 4 years of my life on it. At this point I feel obligated to see it through right down to its awful, mind-numbing, bitter end.

AND 2) also because of Kundali Bhagya. You see when I get invested in something I go into it deep. See: the Marvel movies, The DC movies, Vampire Diaires which spun off into The Originals which spun off into Legacies. I watch it all. I'm OCD like that. I can't help it. It's the way I'm built. And I do blame myself for it.

But atleast even when Kundali Bhagya drags, and it does for it took pointers from it's Sister show afterall -- atleast there I have characters like Preeta (when she's not Prithvi worshipping) Srishti, Sameer, Karan, Rishab (when he doesn't act lovesick), Kritika, Rockstar Daadi, Janki, Sarla (when she's not Prithvi worshipping), Rakhi, Mahesh, and Bani Daadi to love. In Kundali I have a litany of characters to adore...in Kumkum the only person that I feel sorry for right now is King. And if he turns evil like the rumors are suggesting, then I will have no one to root for. Because honestly, who the heck do you root for in this show????

Do you root for Pragya? 😆 She doesn't even know what she wants. One minute she goes from remembering how Abhi banished her from his life and getting all worked up into a tizzy over it and then in the next instance she's very obviously heart-eyeing Abhi but then turns around and tells Tanu that she has no interest in him. She has inner monologues where she says "Tanu is the reason we can't get back together since you married her," when thinking about Abhi to suddenly panicking and thinking, " Abhi can never find out Kiara is his! He'll TAKE her from me!!!" W*F?!? Ummm, Pragya do you want Abhi back or not? Either you want him back in which case, go right ahead and tell him so. Tell him that Kiara is his daughter. Tell him how King took you both in and is nothing more than a friend to you. Why are you not telling Abhi any of this? oh because he's married? Well you somehow found it in you to tell him that you loved him when he was dating Tanu. Oh remember that? You his wife telling him you loved him while he was dating Tanu. That was practice, now it's you his baby mama telling him that he's a father while he's married to Tanu. Or wait...are you not telling Abhi you want him back because he tossed you out of his life and called you a pariah? You mean that wasn't romantic enough for you? Maybe you'll get luckier this time. and Abhi can find out Kiara is his after Tanu somehow has her killed, and he can again blame you for her death this time around. Doesn't that just make your heart flutter Pragya? I'm sorry. But if you're terrified a man will snatch your child from you -- how the heck can you possibly love him? How can you forgive him for marrying his mistress? But she does still love him and she has forgiven him for marrying Tanu because if she was disgusted by it she would not be Nok-Jhoking it up with him on the sly...and I'm supposed to believe that Tanu is the other woman in this story. 😒

Then there's Abhi... why on earth would viewers still root for him to be paired with the female lead? No seriously? I dare you to go explain the abhigya relationship to a non-viewer. I DARE YOU. I guarantee it, you will completely humiliate yourself. You'll sound like a five year old, standing in front of a classroom being told to tell an impromptu story on the spot, and it'll look a little something like this:

KKB VIEWER: There was this boy and he is a rockstar and he made his best friend like his sister but his best friend did not like the rockstar's sister and the sister got mad and thought the best friend liked a teacher but no boys ever liked the teacher and then one day the teacher fell into the water and the rockstar saved her and then she married the rockstar but the rockstar did not love her and told her he hates her and would punish her and he would hug another girl to make her sad but then the teacher found out the rockstar's sister liked his best friend but the best friend was dating her sister and then she stays quiet and tells the best friend to marry the rockstar's sister and then the best friend runs away from the rockstar's sister and tells the teachers sister that he loves her but then that sister dies and he marries a villiage girl and then the rockstar's sister blames the teacher for everything but the teacher told the rockstar she loved him and he tells her he loves her too but then the girl he hugged got pregnant and so the teacher tells the rockstar she does not love him and he has to go hug that girl again and then they all find out that the girl he hugged lied and the baby wasn't his but then the baby died and then the rockstar loses his memory but then he gets it back and then the teacher gets shot and goes missing and the rockstar sits at home and cries for her and then this other girl shows up looking like the teacher but he thinks it's the teacher but then that girl leaves and the teacher comes back and then this other girl shows up wanting to kill the rockstar because he killed her husband but she kills the rockstar's grandma instead and then the rockstar blames the teacher and tells her to leave and then the teacher leaves for 7 years but then she comes back with a friend and the rockstar hates the friend. But then there is a little girl and the rockstar and the little girl become friends.

NON VIEWER: Dude. Why don't you just watch Young and the Restless.

KKB VIEWER: Because people kiss on the mouth in that show and my mom says were are too sanskari for that.

That right there, is what you will sound like. THAT is what people hear when you explain this show to them,

It's also important to note 2 things:

1) Abhi and Pragya lived together for 4 years. She has lived with King for 7.
2) Why is everyone okay with a 7 year old girl hanging out with a middle aged man. I mean, we the viewers know differently but for Pragya and King - should this not be alarming. And I'm talking about how Pragya seemed okay with this long before she found out Superman was Abhi. I know that if I went home and told my mom that some old guy is my new best friend and I call him Superman and I think he's my parttime Dad, she would freak. Actually, she does freak. She made faces whenever Pragya would giggle with Kiara over her doll-thief. A mother's response would have been to call the cops, not to send her daughter off to play with him.

But anyways, back to Abhi. Why am I supposed to feel sorry for him? He brought Tanu into his life. He let his sister cause havoc but never got her any real help. Aaliya needs a hospital and some good old treatment. She needs a therapist and she does not need to watch Purab and Disha romance in front of her. What was Abhi's reasoning behind keeping Purab and Disha in his house? Oh right. "I don't want you to leave me the way Pragya did." Nice. So he wants Purab in his house because he is lonely. He takes Aaliya back but rubs Dishrab in her face and expects her not to go crazy. He lets Tanu rule the roost because why not, and has Disha do everything a servant would. And on top of that he also wants Pragya back too.

We're also led to believe he's all about family. Yeah, okay:

- he adds to sister's mental problems by adding salt to her wounds in the form of Dishrab.
- he thinks his niece is a minor when she is not.
- he's a rockstar and makes a S#!& ton of money but is clueless as to why Uncle-basically a grandpa- Ajay drags himself to the office.
- He makes kids call him Chucks.
- He marries evil incarnate and somehow is not aware that she tortures his family members on a daily basis. (sidenote: Although, one could argue that Tanu was the daughter-in-law that Mehra's always deserved. Pragya's life was hell with these people. Swarni Daadi was Awol. Disha is new. Purab forgot his oath to his dead wife. Mitali, Raj and Raj's mother were always her enemies. Raj's father spent most of his time blending into furniture. Indu Dassi was kept in the dark. Daadi used her as a weapon and always had her risking her life and fighting useless battles. And Bubbly and her brother were away at boarding school. Pragya was an outsider to most of these people. So why the rewrite in history?)
- He also acts as though he is bipolar: He goes from acting like a caveman but hiccups and suddenly acts like he's 5 years old. I once found this childlike behavior endearing but him and Pragya's random kindergarten nok-jhok-babblings are now a slow torture. This gag ran its course during the 3rd year of the show. It's especially confusing to watch it happening now considering the storyline.

You know what's also HELLLAAA confusing! The flashbacks. When in the holy frickitty-frack would any of the crap that we see moonlighting as flashback, when could any of this have happened. We the viewers know that during Abhi and Pragya's four year marriage the duo have only had four days of happiness:

1) the night he told her he loved her
2) the night Mogambo died
3) the night he got his memory back
4) and the night Kiara was made

Atleast in Kundali Bhagya the flashbacks we get a majority of the time is a refresher. It's stuff we've actually seen already being recaped. And even when it's a brand new never before scene atleast it makes sense within the general scope of the show because unlike Pragya -- her sisters actually see, talk and are cordial with all the guys within their orbit. Abhi spends an entire year stuck hating her until the two of them get their one day of allotted togetherness before being ripped apart.

4 days of happiness in a relationship that spans 11 years? Wow! And yet the two of them think they can lecture Tarun and Neha on what a serious relationship is. This is the epic love story two teenagers look up too? This is the relationship Bulbul lost her life for?

Kudos to Sriti and Shabbir for having had the chemistry to have originally reeled me into this mess of a love story. Because 4 years later, now that the haze has lifted all thanks to the dwindling writing I now find myself scratching my head and wondering why I even shipped such an unhealthy relationship to begin with.

So with all of that said I would like to know if there are people here who still ship this couple. And if you do, why? I lost the will to do so when Dushant shot Pragya. For me the magic was just gone. And it really hurts my heart to see that the couple I once was obsessed with makes me want to break my TV with my own face. I'd like to know what keeps you invested. What about them screams romance to you? And don't say Sriti and Shabbir's chemistry. I want a proper answer. What is it about their relationship that keeps you shipping abhigya. And if you feel the same way I do and have your own 2 cents to add then by all means post a reply.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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On Point.
Ther's no maturity of character in Abhi and Pragya, i just feel i'm watching some immature teen characters. Their relationship not appealing in any way now.
One other character that is beginning to irritate me now is Disha.
Why doesn't she want to respect the sanctity of marriage between Pragya and King?(it's not like she found out they are not married).
Why is she so confident that Kiara is Abhi's daughter and as such it is her duty to reunite them?
This should be just a wishful thinking for her, but no, she's putting in effort to achieve her dream of God knows what.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweetone

On Point.
Ther's no maturity of character in Abhi and Pragya, i just feel i'm watching some immature teen characters. Their relationship not appealing in any way now.
One other character that is beginning to irritate me now is Disha.
Why doesn't she want to respect the sanctity of marriage between Pragya and King?(it's not like she found out they are not married).
Why is she so confident that Kiara is Abhi's daughter and as such it is her duty to reunite them?
This should be just a wishful thinking for her, but no, she's putting in effort to achieve her dream of God knows what.


Yes! Oh my God thank you! Disha is beyond annoying. I really hope Bulbul shows up and makes her regret her words. Will she quietly step aside and let Bulbul have Purab, like she expects of King? Because according to her logic that's what ought to be done right? Because only the first marriage counts right? King's feelings don't count. So why should hers? If King is expected to slink off into the night then bye Disha!
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watching this show from the start so I want to see how it ends...This is my 1st & last ekta show, as I know she just ruins the stories after some time so I don't watch kdb...Don't want to fall in her trap again 😆...But got to admit I have never shipped a couple like I ship abhigya... Though I'm hating abhi but want a happy ending for them. I think this is the last track of show so wanted a story but alas it is too much to ask form mentally challenged writer.
Before leap story was senseless but after leap there is no story just cat & mouse game...Really wanted tanu out from the show as her character has nothing new to offer(expressions too)😵.

I have vowed never to watch any serials...So I just watch kkb here & there until it ends...
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Good morning girls !!!!
Wickedly, AK, Huts, Annie, LA, GB, hope all of you are doing well. Looks like all of us are trying to save our souls👏🤗. Like Huts, I like your rant too, Wickedly ( I am sorry to be calling you this 😕). I am here to put in my 2 cents with a indifference now, which BTW can turn into a full blown rage😡, kind of smoke coming out of my ears wala rage.

First off, for those of you who know me, I always claimed that I like Abhi, Pragya as a couple and when one of them is gone, then I am gone too. For a person like me, to now turn around and say, I can't see them as a couple, my skin crawls when I see them engaging with one another is quite a debacle🤢 and the writers, hats off to them , I do not know how they turned me like this. But, this is where I am right now. I had been incredibly busy in real life these days, which was never an impediment to things I wanted to do, but now I am choosing not to watch this. I lost all connectivity. Here are my thoughts:

Ever since the fated day in April, I never connected, nor understood nor sided with Abhi EVER🤢 He is dead 😡for me for the betrayal, the cruelty, the abuse, the irresponsibility, the indifference, the complete lack of humanity he showed towards Pragya or her well being. He sold his soul to the ultimate devil. Once he had done that, I have no expectations left for him. He failed as a human being. What is the purpose of his existence now? He failed each and every relationship, except for one with the vomit whom he had more than lavishly cherished, upgraded, secured her life, made sure she was comfortable, cocooned in luxuries. What did he do to the rest of his relationships, or his profession?

As a friend - Failure with a capital F, the moment he tried to snatch the presumed object of his friend's affection. Pragya. He was saved by higher powers that it was not what it turned out to be.

As a brother - Probably his biggest failure, staring at his and everybody he comes in contact with, destroying lives, left , right, center. Did he ever try to look deeper into what is going on with Aliya, why is he least bothered about what she wants to do with her life, where is her security, her happiness that he cared about? Is this what a brother is supposed to do? Not care, leave a damaged soul to nefarious means and influences? 😭 I am so glad there were no raksha bandhan episodes between these two. The biggest mockery of that tradition too.

Pota - Another one of his biggest failures, he stands up all of his daadi's wishes on their head, throws out the girl whom his daadi loved the most almost to the exclusion of her own grandson and granddaughter. Ultimate betrayal of his daadi is to marry vomit whom his daadi detested the most. Worst of all, the object responsible for daadi's death has been highlighted in his life, NO ATTEMPTS to find out anything surrounding her death. What is he going to do when he finds out what he had done, whom he had cherished and kept by his side and his house? WILL HE DIE? 🤢💔

Responsible caregiver - He assumed responsibility of daasis and Tayaji's family. The octagenarian gets molested, physically abused by vomit under his nose, he doesn't pay attention. Tayaji gets admonished by the vomit, HE DOESN'T KNOW.

Sunny is afraid of vomit as she abuses his mom, THE GREATEST FAMILY MEMBER ON THIS PLANET DOESN'T KNOW.

What is Bubbly's age? He calls her a " minor bacchi" and doesn't bat an eye when King gets arrested under this FALSE PRETEXT👎🏼. He abets Mithali's false complaint.

Master- His house hold help gets killed, Robin who had been his loyal help forever leaves, HE HAS NO CLUE, DOESN'T HAVE TIME TO FIND OUT, NOR DOES HE CARE.

Ultimate failure as a husband and father ; This is the basis and the USP of this whole show. I can't even start to write anything less than a book about this😡👎🏼💔. I am so sorry that Pragya ever came across this guy. WILL HE DIE FOR WHAT HE PUT THEM THROUGH? 🤢

Profession : Doesn't care about his profession, just into making money with his popularity, attending functions, ads, death anniversaries ( his words, not mine ). Doesn't have the decency to apologize to fans or fellow artistes when he finds out how Aliya pulled that stunt .

THIS GUY IS A PROTAGONIST? If so, what should an antagonist look like?

Pragya, you all know that most of the time, I can twist myself enough to understand where she is coming from ( exception, Munni arc ). But now, even she had left me bewildered, disgusted, disillusioned and disconnected. Imagine this, I was raving mad at Abhi for her situation post leap. So let us just say, I am following her bandwagon of hurt, betrayal, anger, disappointment towards Abhi, and am a flag bearer of that movement. Suddenly, she drops that flag, goes on to the sidelines, with a smug expression that she is abandoning the movement, without any proper explanation, what am I supposed to do with all my feelings, emotions that I got revved up in her support. Imagine my humiliation as somebody in that movement, when my cause drops the fight and wonders from the side lines, what this hullabaloo is all about. This is what made me lose all connectivity to her as well. She doesn't fight for justice for self, nor for justice for her child nor for her friend. What is there for me support her then? Her being lovey-dovey to her abuser, her greatest betrayer.

To GBs question of " shouldn't a woman get what she wants", the answer, I am afraid is not a simple Yes or No. If the answer is an yes, then the vomit " got what she wanted". I am sorry, GB, if I am understanding this from your perspective or not. PRAGYA CANNOT pursue Abhi now, he discarded her from his life, he replaced her with vomit, shut the door in her face. What I mean to say is, she can't have it both ways. If she had forgiven Abhi for all the betrayal, her prerogative, I will have nothing to do with her. But that means, she can remain cordial with him for the sake of Kiara, BUT she has to let him know that the bigot had fathered a child whom he never cared to pursue for 7 years.

If she hadn't forgiven him, then, she should act as such. I am with LA here, how and why can a woman with integrity keep going to MM when she was told to her face " you have no place in my house", " GET OUT " " I will not spare you or anybody if my family is harmed". Just what kind of a person can swallow this and carry on as if everything is normal? For God's sake, my 7 month old puppy needs a lot of cajoling and sweet talking if I have to put him out to modify his behavior, even if it is for 5 min. I get a full attitude, with head turned away from me, ears high up in the air, before he forgets his perceived insult. 😲

That brings us to the question , Can love exist for a human being who had snatched away your whole world, you life, your existence and everything from you, killed your soul? If the guy is living in shambles repenting and remorseful for what he had done, he understood that he killed your soul, how cruel life was for you from that time onwards or come to his senses and looking for you, then, may be , then, if you still have feelings left for him which are reviving, I might understand. But when he cared two hoots for you and made a life for himself, replaced you with your worst enemy, LOVE EXISTS? I am going to say this, in my experience, love cannot exist in vaccum, it has to be nurtured and changes based on reciprocation. The only love that exists without conditions or reciprocation is that of a mother to her child and may not be vice versa. But here, a person, continues to think you are a gold-digger ( asked her explicitly if she went away to London to marry King ), calls you a daadi killer, repeatedly reminds you that you are an outsider, that you figure at the bottom of the list or nowhere at all when it comes to his care and concern, he doesn't believe nor trust you, you well being is of no concern to him, THEN WHAT IS THERE TO LOVE HIM? I mean, what quality in him, what character trait makes you maintain your love for that person?

I have much more to say, but I am getting a call. So need to go. I am sorry Wicked if I spoiled your space, something touched a raw nerve as I read your post. Hopefully, some other time to write more and corrupt your minds 😃

Have a good rest of the weekend !

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watching this show from the start so I want to see how it ends...This is my 1st & last ekta show, as I know she just ruins the stories after some time so I don't watch kdb...Don't want to fall in her trap again 😆...But got to admit I have never shipped a couple like I ship abhigya... Though I'm hating abhi but want a happy ending for them. I think this is the last track of show so wanted a story but alas it is too much to ask form mentally challenged writer.

Before leap story was senseless but after leap there is no story just cat & mouse game...Really wanted tanu out from the show as her character has nothing new to offer(expressions too)😵.

I have vowed never to watch any serials...So I just watch kkb here & there until it ends...


@ BOLD - Same! I had heard all the rumours, but I thought maybe things will be different with this show. Man I should have listened. I will NEVER watch another Balaji soap again. Once KKB and KDB end, sorry Ekta but thinking you were the Shonda Rhimes of the indian Telly soap world was wrong of me. I gave too much credit.
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Originally posted by: mili9



First off, for those of you who know me, I always claimed that I like Abhi, Pragya as a couple and when one of them is gone, then I am gone too. For a person like me, to now turn around and say, I can't see them as a couple, my skin crawls when I see them engaging with one another is quite a debacle🤢 and the writers, hats off to them , I do not know how they turned me like this.


I was the exact same way Mili. Abhigya were my everything. I would defend this relationship to any and everyone who had anything negative to say about them. They meant so much to me. And now...now I've taken off the rose-colored glasses. The leap made me take those glasses off and forced myself to actually view the show for the sickening captor and his captive love story that it actually was. You see, i think what I was in love with was the IDEA of a bad-boy-Rockstar falling in love with a simple-glasses-wearing girl who could change him for the better. And at the beginning of this show, i think that's what that show was for the lot of the viewers, only Abhi never changed at all. The character with all the flaws did not change one bit, and the girl who should have never changed at all was the one that did -- and she changed for the worst not the better.

Originally posted by: mili9



Ever since the fated day in April, I never connected, nor understood nor sided with Abhi EVER🤢 He is dead 😡for me for the betrayal, the cruelty, the abuse, the irresponsibility, the indifference, the complete lack of humanity he showed towards Pragya or her well being. He sold his soul to the ultimate devil. Once he had done that, I have no expectations left for him. He failed as a human being. What is the purpose of his existence now? He failed each and every relationship, except for one with the vomit whom he had more than lavishly cherished, upgraded, secured her life, made sure she was comfortable, cocooned in luxuries. What did he do to the rest of his relationships, or his profession?

As a friend - Failure with a capital F, the moment he tried to snatch the presumed object of his friend's affection. Pragya. He was saved by higher powers that it was not what it turned out to be.

As a brother - Probably his biggest failure, staring at his and everybody he comes in contact with, destroying lives, left , right, center. Did he ever try to look deeper into what is going on with Aliya, why is he least bothered about what she wants to do with her life, where is her security, her happiness that he cared about? Is this what a brother is supposed to do? Not care, leave a damaged soul to nefarious means and influences? 😭 I am so glad there were no raksha bandhan episodes between these two. The biggest mockery of that tradition too.

Pota - Another one of his biggest failures, he stands up all of his daadi's wishes on their head, throws out the girl whom his daadi loved the most almost to the exclusion of her own grandson and granddaughter. Ultimate betrayal of his daadi is to marry vomit whom his daadi detested the most. Worst of all, the object responsible for daadi's death has been highlighted in his life, NO ATTEMPTS to find out anything surrounding her death. What is he going to do when he finds out what he had done, whom he had cherished and kept by his side and his house? WILL HE DIE? 🤢💔

Responsible caregiver - He assumed responsibility of daasis and Tayaji's family. The octagenarian gets molested, physically abused by vomit under his nose, he doesn't pay attention. Tayaji gets admonished by the vomit, HE DOESN'T KNOW.

Sunny is afraid of vomit as she abuses his mom, THE GREATEST FAMILY MEMBER ON THIS PLANET DOESN'T KNOW.

What is Bubbly's age? He calls her a " minor bacchi" and doesn't bat an eye when King gets arrested under this FALSE PRETEXT👎🏼. He abets Mithali's false complaint.

Master- His house hold help gets killed, Robin who had been his loyal help forever leaves, HE HAS NO CLUE, DOESN'T HAVE TIME TO FIND OUT, NOR DOES HE CARE.

Ultimate failure as a husband and father ; This is the basis and the USP of this whole show. I can't even start to write anything less than a book about this😡👎🏼💔. I am so sorry that Pragya ever came across this guy. WILL HE DIE FOR WHAT HE PUT THEM THROUGH? 🤢

Profession : Doesn't care about his profession, just into making money with his popularity, attending functions, ads, death anniversaries ( his words, not mine ). Doesn't have the decency to apologize to fans or fellow artistes when he finds out how Aliya pulled that stunt .

THIS GUY IS A PROTAGONIST? If so, what should an antagonist look like?


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I couldn't have said that better! Yes, yes and YES! Abhi has completely failed across the board.

My disenchantment with Abhi began during the Munni storyline. I just couldn't wrap my head around the fact that Pragya had gotten shot and he sat at home and just did nothing. What was his reasoning? Oh that she would come back on her own.

And what happened with the leap storyline? He again expected her to comeback on her own. Do you see how sick that is? Do people not realize how perverse that is????

I completely ignored the whole Abhi-tricks-Pragya-into-marriage hook. Ekta did her best to blind me into thinking that their relationship was one that was preordained by God and she threw all that pretty symbolism at me to confuse me: oh look! Pragya's Kundali chart flies to Abhi's. Oh look, Abhi is handing her the mangalsutra in front of God. Oh look, Pragya is wishing on a star and then falls into Abhi's arms. Damn you, KKB! I'm a sucker for that stuff and so I lapped it up. And it's because of all that shiny look-how-we-are-fated-BS that fooled me and kept me from seeing how abusive this story really was.

I hadn't even realized that Abhi had failed Purab in that way until you pointed it out! Because oh my God! He did! How could Purab ever forgive him for something like that? If Abhi had married Bulbul we would be watching an entirely different show today and yet that simple fact blew right passed alot of viewers, me included. Pragya should have been done with Abhi the moment she found him with Tanu on her wedding night. But instead she kept her mouth shut out of fear! Her entire relationship with Abhi has been nothing more than one that is based on fear: fear that he would hurt her sister, fear that his betrayal would hurt her mother, fear that if Daadi learned the truth it would hurt her...and why? because Abhi never thinks about what he does. He just does it. He does what he thinks he feels is right, to heck with the consequences.

He has no filter. If he's mad he's allowed to SAY whatever he wants. If he feels hurt, then he's allowed to HURT whoever he wants. He slaps Aaliya when she hurts him. He slapped Pragya when she said she didn't love him...he SLAPPED her! And I'm ashamed to say that I was one of those delusional fangirls that excused his behavior. I remember reading posts back then where people went as far as to say that Abhi only hits those who actually mean something to him. He loves Aaliya so it meant something when he hit her. He loves Purab that's why he slaps him. He loves Pragya so that's why it's okay that he hit her. He doesn't love Tanu. That's why he's never slapped her! I kid you not! those were actual conversations that I had stumbled across and yet I don't know why, but still despite that awful scene, there I was still delusionally shipping Abhigya away. Because Abhi only slaps the people he loves. How da F*** did the writers manage to get people to think that way.

...But you know what, the writers also opened my eyes to the fact that Abhi was abusive. If it hadn't been for the leap I never would have seen it, and this is how. People can hate King all they want - but they are lying if they don't see what King really represents. King and Abhi are two sides of the same coin. King is Abhi. They're both huge music icons. They both have that same quirky personality. The only difference is one is a healthier version of the other:

Abhi thought he was saving a girl who was trying to commit suicide. He married her for revenge and made her lie to the world - pretending they were happily married when they in fact were not while he enjoyed having Tanu on the side. And Pragya put up with it to keep her sister safe and to protect her mother,

King actually saved a girl that was in the process of jumping off a cliff...or maybe she did jump and he saved her by taking her to a hospital. And then he took her in out of the kindness of his own heart. He gave her a new life and provided her and her daughter with a sense of security in the form of being his pretend wife. And Pragya went along with it in order to safeguard her daughter;s future, inso Kiara would not be called 'illegitimate,' AND also again, because of Sarla. If anyone watches Kundali then it would be easy to pick up on the fact that Sarla knows all about what went down with Pragya and Abhi. And Sarla most definitely does not want Pragya back with Abhi. I wouldn't be surprised if she was the one that made King take Pragya with him to London.

Originally posted by: mili9

Pragya, you all know that most of the time, I can twist myself enough to understand where she is coming from ( exception, Munni arc ). But now, even she had left me bewildered, disgusted, disillusioned and disconnected. Imagine this, I was raving mad at Abhi for her situation post leap. So let us just say, I am following her bandwagon of hurt, betrayal, anger, disappointment towards Abhi, and am a flag bearer of that movement. Suddenly, she drops that flag, goes on to the sidelines, with a smug expression that she is abandoning the movement, without any proper explanation, what am I supposed to do with all my feelings, emotions that I got revved up in her support. Imagine my humiliation as somebody in that movement, when my cause drops the fight and wonders from the side lines, what this hullabaloo is all about. This is what made me lose all connectivity to her as well. She doesn't fight for justice for self, nor for justice for her child nor for her friend. What is there for me support her then? Her being lovey-dovey to her abuser, her greatest betrayer. To GBs question of " shouldn't a woman get what she wants", the answer, I am afraid is not a simple Yes or No. If the answer is an yes, then the vomit " got what she wanted". I am sorry, GB, if I am understanding this from your perspective or not. PRAGYA CANNOT pursue Abhi now, he discarded her from his life, he replaced her with vomit, shut the door in her face. What I mean to say is, she can't have it both ways. If she had forgiven Abhi for all the betrayal, her prerogative, I will have nothing to do with her. But that means, she can remain cordial with him for the sake of Kiara, BUT she has to let him know that the bigot had fathered a child whom he never cared to pursue for 7 years. If she hadn't forgiven him, then, she should act as such. I am with LA here, how and why can a woman with integrity keep going to MM when she was told to her face " you have no place in my house", " GET OUT " " I will not spare you or anybody if my family is harmed". Just what kind of a person can swallow this and carry on as if everything is normal? For God's sake, my 7 month old puppy needs a lot of cajoling and sweet talking if I have to put him out to modify his behavior, even if it is for 5 min. I get a full attitude, with head turned away from me, ears high up in the air, before he forgets his perceived insult. 😲 That brings us to the question , Can love exist for a human being who had snatched away your whole world, you life, your existence and everything from you, killed your soul? If the guy is living in shambles repenting and remorseful for what he had done, he understood that he killed your soul, how cruel life was for you from that time onwards or come to his senses and looking for you, then, may be , then, if you still have feelings left for him which are reviving, I might understand. But when he cared two hoots for you and made a life for himself, replaced you with your worst enemy, LOVE EXISTS? I am going to say this, in my experience, love cannot exist in vaccum, it has to be nurtured and changes based on reciprocation. The only love that exists without conditions or reciprocation is that of a mother to her child and may not be vice versa. But here, a person, continues to think you are a gold-digger ( asked her explicitly if she went away to London to marry King ), calls you a daadi killer, repeatedly reminds you that you are an outsider, that you figure at the bottom of the list or nowhere at all when it comes to his care and concern, he doesn't believe nor trust you, you well being is of no concern to him, THEN WHAT IS THERE TO LOVE HIM? I mean, what quality in him, what character trait makes you maintain your love for that person?



And this my dear is abuse at it's finest. Pragya is a victim. All the signs were there from the start. The only problem was that her story was being told as some beautiful love story when in truth it is Stockholm Syndrome at it's best. And the fact that Pragya is one giant mess of a character perfectly illustrates how abused she is.

Because, Abhi continuously believes that no matter what happens -- Pragya is expected to return to him. He can say what he wants to her, treat her however he wants, and in the end it is Pragya's fault if she can't read between the lines.


Edited by wickedlyunique - 6 years ago
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Hey Mimi! How are things in Canada?? Good to see you back on the forum.
I've said this many times, but here it is again. I've never been an abhigya shipper. 😃 I like both the characters and the actors but didn't see anything worthwhile in that couple. They're just a mismatched couple. I've never looked at Abhi from Pragya's point of view or rated him based on how he is toward Pragya. And the same applies to Pragya too.

How to explain abhigya? Can't!! 😆 Because there never was a one strong abhigya. How can there ever be a wonderful abhigya when their marriage was based on a BIG misunderstanding and the whole point of the marriage for him was to take revenge on her, lol 😆. In which universe is that supposed to be romantic?🤔 And knowing that her new hubby hates her and actually has a girl friend who's a real gold digger called Tanu, an educated revenged wife falls in love with her so called husband. In which universe will a woman fall in love with a man like that? No real, sane person will marry someone for revenge or fall in love with someone who's abusive. Pragya has a severe case of Stockholm syndrome.

Why won't Abhi expect Pragya to be there for him no matter what he does? Pragya has consistently set that expectation for him. I totally disliked that. I always wanted Pragya to walk away from all the chaos. But no. She had to be the emancipator, Abhi's angel in shining armor!!😆 Remember the revenge marriage track? God, she was helping Abhi hide Tanu in the ceiling when dadi showed up for her modeling for the ad. She should have let him handle his own mess. He was flirting with Tanu and hurting her feelings every moment and what does Pragya do? Fall in love with him! Great.😕 She tells him during BB's wedding that she'll never remarry and she's a one man kinda girl. My point is Pragya's commitment is wasted on Abhi. He was never worth that much of her heart ache and pain and yet she chose to be totally devoted to him. She should have gone ahead and married King.

Abhi has his own reasons for being flakey with Pragya. That's a different story. His guilt for having wronged her will never go away from his mind. And Pragya's game of I love you now and I love you not for all her reasons didn't help him or his love. So basically we have 2 screwed up adults who have royally screwed up their own married life.

I stopped watching a while ago. It's a pretty toxic, twisted show. In a way, I actually congratulate the writers for trying a very non-traditional script. This show borders on the absurd, almost existential like Samuel Beckett. It's a pretty scathing picture of marriages and married life. I would not rip apart this serial because it doesn't show a typical marriage. Don't think writers ever wanted to do that.
Edited by Cerealgirl - 6 years ago
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So...with all this rant and telling of opinions...what's next ? I so am very pissed with EK for choosing Shabir & Sriti to portray Abhigya. I got hooked on KKB just because of these 2 talented actors. Same as @wickedlyunique...I want to see it till the end. What is going to happen at the end of this crazy story. Haish ! Good luck to us I guess.😉
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The police came and did not ask..whether prathana agrees with the wed

This annoyed me so much how comes she did not say anything no consent or asking what she wants what the hell

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