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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: LiveLifeHonest


Silsila isn't one of the biggest risks on TV. So many shows on EMAs have been done, just that they were so much better handled that they didn't receive such backlash. Mauli isn't perfect. But if Mauli is so suffocating, doesn't Kunal have a mouth and brain to talk to her and point out her fault when he has the same to cheat on her? And by the logic that it's Mauli's fault that Kunal is cheating, then it's also Nandini's fault that Rajdeep cheated on her. Why so much backlash for Rajdeep then? People should be then pointing out how Nandini should improve herself to suit Rajdeep. Individuals are responsible for their actions and here Kunal and Nandini are responsible for the EMA, and not Mauli.

The problem here isn't about the theme of EMAs. It's that the leads and scenarios are so unrealistically developed and presented. The leads are being white-washed and presented as some sort of 'Abla Naris' when they aren't. The EMA is being justified and glorified using emotions and religion. When the CVs have the guts to present the characters as grey/dark for what they are and they rightfully point out an EMA as an EMA without justifying it especially using religion, the backlash with stop. No matter the year, when something is wrong, people will speak out.

And why should Mauli become the antagonist? Even if she joins with Rajdeep to take revenge, she won't be the antagonist because of all the betrayal done to her. When Kunal and Nandini's juzzbaat can justify the EMA, Mauli's emotions can also justify what revenge she takes on these cheaters. I hope instead Mauli moves on and let karma take effect on these cheaters. She deserves so much better.

Because you can't compare two situations with such black and white lens. Because Mauli's behvaior and Rajdeep's behaviors are vastly different. Having complete faith in one's husband and abusing your wife are not the same thus do not warrant the same reactions from the audience. That means Nandani who may have faults, would not have it at the same standard as Mauli does. You are talking about two contrasting relationships that have different problems. Yes one relationship is less toxic than another but it is still toxic. You can't ignore that KM have problems just because RN have deeper problems. And Mauli shouldn't be absolved of her problems because she doesn't realize what she's doing is wrong. Point is both Mauli and Rajdeep have toxic behaviors and while Rajdeep is wayyy worse, Mauli's problems should be talked about as well BUT not in the same standard as Rajdeep.
What i just said sounds super convoluted but yeah

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Padmajaan



I am also just an occasional visitor to this forum and am shocked by the sheer number of vituperative posts and simplistic branding of characters as good or evil with any shades inbetween totally lacking.


Therefore yes it's extremely sad to see the bubble burst and all of us are and should feel extremely sad for mauli but also for kunal and nandini because they find themselves in a real mess and Mauli is indeed the hapless victim.

However it is so simplistic to paint Nandini as a lustful woman armed with the singular purpose of bedding her best friend's husband and betraying her trust. Kunal just happened to be around when she was at her most vulnerable and the mutual attraction they feel for each other is one of the inexplicable things that does happen even if unfortunately so.

I am sure they are both feeling shitty about it but they are also revelling in the sudden happiness they have found. Yes this is indeed possible. If you are dispassionate about it you will probably see that Kunal and Nandini do complete one another more than Mauli and Kunal.

Let me also admit that I have recently started watching this show and am expressing my opinion only based on the limited viewing and after visiting the forum and reading quite a few vituperativ



Another thing that bothers me is the take on this forum on what amounts to being unfaithful. I even read one post where the poster says that lying to one's partner is OK it's not a crime, but having sex with another woman is not OK and is a crime, but honestly is only consummation and just the physical act tantamount to cheating? What about mental, spiritual and psychological straying? Is it OK if your Boyfriend or Husband thinking of another woman constantly, is lying to you and is still sleeping with you while thinking of her? Isn't that cheating enough already? The physical act is just the culmination of all this isn't it and not as a big deal as you are all making it out to be as I see how much the consummation track has freaked everyone out here. Kunal has been cheating Mauli for quite a while already in his mind and nandini too.

I know how much EMA hurts, how uncomfortable the issue is but I really think it's too simplistic to brand someone a scheming evil homebreaker and all. Mauli's home is already broken from the time Kunal is no longer with her in heart.

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I understand your perspective ..your post truly helped me to calm down a little bit . I know some members have go e overboard with the name calling ..little can be done about it , viewers are enraged and an emotional woman can hardly try to look at it rationally ..


However I don't agree with some of the points.

Initially we were shouting that kunal is cheating on mauli , when he started eyeing nandini , all of us were shut up by arguments like "what is emotional cheating ? He didn't jump to bed with her , this is not lust but love "..whatever ..my point is, kunal as a character was irredemable the moment he developed feelings for nandini ..a lot has been discussed on it . The physical act was the last nail in the coffin, yes it was coming , but the timing and the way they brought it up was absolutely wrong . An abuse victim who is vulnerable , terrified , shocked chose to sleep with her bff husband ..the fact that she was abused brought a totally different angle to it , where viewers got the impression that cvs are trying to justify nandinis emotional condition at that time .


And branding kunal and nandini came after this sleeping incident because if this happened in a moment of weakness both would be regretting it or feeling guilty . When they are doing everything with selfish motive behind maulis back , how are we supposed to understand their layers and shades ? They are what they are ..they want to cling on to each other , in complete sense , knowing all the rights and wrongs ..first kunal manipulated nandini in this and now nandini is doing it . People may call them.whatever according to their judgement ..i don't know evil but nandini is a homewrecker , a backstabber and a characterless woman ..kunal is a *******. Adjectives fall short for him .


Behind every wrong there are reasons , nandini had plenty but kunal has none ..lets assume he was bored in his marriage . I think you must watch the previous episodes to understand the raging form members . How mauli pulled out nandini from hell and helped her in every way that she could , sacrificing her personal time.and equation with her in laws and fighting with a monster like rajdeep ..in this scenario if nandini acts like her love is pure , ignoring everything that mauli did for her , it's frustrating like hell


No I can't see how kunal and nandini complete each other ..they are two negatives . And life is not a mathematical equation where two negatives become positive ..but yeah a lot has been discussed over the lust angle and we are not sure because of the pathetic writing ..normally anyone would call it lust because otherwise why would a man cheat ? Nandini could have stayed Kunals friend ,he would have protected her like a friend , helped her and emotionally supported her ..why did they define it ? A man and a woman wait till marriage to consummate (of course.nowdays this is also regressive) and here with so many complications and complexes all they thought was fu******. After all this I can't call them humans who make.mistakes..


Edited by _charu_ - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Padmajaan

Reposting here.

Posts gets locked in this forum all the time. Hahahaha.

I am used to a different forum where people with different POVs discussed in a healthy manner and nothing was reported at the drop of a hat and locked.

I am also just an occasional visitor to this forum and am shocked by the sheer number of vituperative posts and simplistic branding of characters as good or evil with any shades inbetween totally lacking.

This show is about EMA and EMA is what you are getting and whether you like it or not such things do happen, very nice people both and very much in love at one stage do either fall out of love or grow distant with time for no fault of either of the two partners, some compromise and live in a loveless relationship for the rest of their lives, others call it a day and either move on or fail to move on, some find love or attraction or lust outside of the marriage and so on. EMA is a very uncomfortable subject, and wreaks havoc all around but shit does happen in life don;t you all agree? Of course we would all love a good love story and they lived happily ever after as the end but such is unfortunately not the case for several hundreds of thousands of people around the world.



Mauli is an awesome person. So is Kunal. They have a lovely family and everything was going hunky dory apparently but obviously there was a mismatch somewhere along the way and nandini in her sheer feminine avatar and in how soft she is, in fact she is the opposite of Mauli, she is demure, she seems like someone who really needs to be protected, she has gone through indescribable horrors at the hands of a brute, does correspond more to how Kunal has been depicted right from the beginning. And all this happens at a time when their marriage has already been on for a while and Mauli is extremely busy generally handling the various relations in her personal life and other pressing matters professionally including bringing Kunal's pet project to fruition.

Therefore yes it's extremely sad to see the bubble burst and all of us are and should feel extremely sad for mauli but also for kunal and nandini because they find themselves in a real mess and Mauli is indeed the hapless victim.

However it is so simplistic to paint Nandini as a lustful woman armed with the singular purpose of bedding her best friend's husband and betraying her trust. Kunal just happened to be around when she was at her most vulnerable and the mutual attraction they feel for each other is one of the inexplicable things that does happen even if unfortunately so.

I am sure they are both feeling shitty about it but they are also revelling in the sudden happiness they have found. Yes this is indeed possible. If you are dispassionate about it you will probably see that Kunal and Nandini do complete one another more than Mauli and Kunal.

Let me also admit that I have recently started watching this show and am expressing my opinion only based on the limited viewing and after visiting the forum and reading quite a few vituperative posts.

Another thing that bothers me is the take on this forum on what amounts to being unfaithful. I even read one post where the poster says that lying to one's partner is OK it's not a crime, but having sex with another woman is not OK and is a crime, but honestly is only consummation and just the physical act tantamount to cheating? What about mental, spiritual and psychological straying? Is it OK if your Boyfriend or Husband thinking of another woman constantly, is lying to you and is still sleeping with you while thinking of her? Isn't that cheating enough already? The physical act is just the culmination of all this isn't it and not as a big deal as you are all making it out to be as I see how much the consummation track has freaked everyone out here. Kunal has been cheating Mauli for quite a while already in his mind and nandini too.

I know how much EMA hurts, how uncomfortable the issue is but I really think it's too simplistic to brand someone a scheming evil homebreaker and all. Mauli's home is already broken from the time Kunal is no longer with her in heart.

Well I have rambled enough and will just shut up now.

The makers are trying to show us the journey of the characters over such a thorny issue in whichever way they think fit and in my opinion we should be dispassionate and see how things unravel and not fill the forum with so much negativity and say so many horrible things.


@Bold : Such good points. You have aptly summarized everything.

This forum has really been a surprise. I do agree that Nandini and Kunal are wrong and Mauli is the poor victim who is going to pay the prize. But the amount of name calling that Nandini has been subjected to is mind-boggling and the level decreases with each post. What surprises me is the comparison between Rajdeep and Nandini-Kunal. I mean that guy has literally raped and abused a women for years, but he is considered better than these two.
Other thing that I do not understand is why people need a person to be negative to commit a mistake. Either, they want Mauli to be negative or Nandini. If the makers are showing the characters as human who make mistakes just like in real world, let accept it as part of their story. EMA has become a reality of our society and it high time we accept it. People do commit mistake and sometimes the consequences can be very high.
Cheating is the integral part of this show, yes, but it also explore the different layers of a character and the relationship they share with each other from friendship to marriage to love and how EMA is going to affect each and every one of it. Unfortunately, that has been totally sidelined.



Edited by pamk06 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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@LiveHonestLife
Your words
{{ And by the logic that it's Mauli's fault that Kunal is cheating, then it's also Nandini's fault that Rajdeep cheated on her. Why so much backlash for Rajdeep then? People should be then pointing out how Nandini should improve herself to suit Rajdeep. }}

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: pamk06


@Bold : Such good points. You have aptly summarized everything.

This forum has really been a surprise. I do agree that Nandini and Kunal are wrong and Mauli is the poor victim who is going to pay the prize. But the amount of name calling that Nandini has been subjected to is mind-boggling and the level decreases with each post. What surprises me is the comparison between Rajdeep and Nandini-Kunal. I mean that guy has literally raped and abused a women for years, but he is considered better than these two.
Other thing that I do not understand is why people need a person to be negative to commit a mistake. Either, they want Mauli to be negative or Nandini. If the makers are showing the characters as human who make mistakes just like in real world, let accept it as part of their story. EMA has become a reality of our society and it high time we accept it. People do commit mistake and sometimes the consequences can be very high.
Cheating is the integral part of this show, yes, but it also explore the different layers of a character and the relationship they share with each other from friendship to marriage to love and how EMA is going to affect each and every one of it. Unfortunately, that has been totally sidelined.



Then why use god make it human .people bashing cos they r using god in all this mess if makers are so sure and daring and want to show reality then don't use god as god is a sensitive issue and e try one knows god is not liable for humans lusty behavior .
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: pamk06


@Bold : Such good points. You have aptly summarized everything.

This forum has really been a surprise. I do agree that Nandini and Kunal are wrong and Mauli is the poor victim who is going to pay the prize. But the amount of name calling that Nandini has been subjected to is mind-boggling and the level decreases with each post. What surprises me is the comparison between Rajdeep and Nandini-Kunal. I mean that guy has literally raped and abused a women for years, but he is considered better than these two.
Other thing that I do not understand is why people need a person to be negative to commit a mistake. Either, they want Mauli to be negative or Nandini. If the makers are showing the characters as human who make mistakes just like in real world, let accept it as part of their story. EMA has become a reality of our society and it high time we accept it. People do commit mistake and sometimes the consequences can be very high.
Cheating is the integral part of this show, yes, but it also explore the different layers of a character and the relationship they share with each other from friendship to marriage to love and how EMA is going to affect each and every one of it. Unfortunately, that has been totally sidelined.




It's very natural if we take into account the third person perspective ..if the same will be happening to us or around us , our reaction and views will be totally different...for others it's totally different and they are judged differently in black and white . Two, the narration has been such , they failed to show it in a balanced way..like there is this movie which I adore , for its beautiful portrayal of Gray characters ..it's ranjhana...we can never pin point any one of them and say he/was wrong or right ...there are many other movies lately which are excellent ...this topic , of ema is not everybody's cup of tea..anyhow nobody can deny that kunal and nandini, whatever they are doing is not justifiable..but it's a fact that there is no one who does always the right things


Ps the name calling should reduce ..it gets overboard at times..
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Didn't know that 2018 is giving permission to sleep with whoever you see dancing in the rain or with someone else's husband!!

2018 failed to give equal payment but 2018 succeeded to make people sleep idhar udhar ka women men.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Because you can't compare two situations with such black and white lens. Because Mauli's behvaior and Rajdeep's behaviors are vastly different. Having complete faith in one's husband and abusing your wife are not the same thus do not warrant the same reactions from the audience. That means Nandani who may have faults, would not have it at the same standard as Mauli does. You are talking about two contrasting relationships that have different problems. Yes one relationship is less toxic than another but it is still toxic. You can't ignore that KM have problems just because RN have deeper problems. And Mauli shouldn't be absolved of her problems because she doesn't realize what she's doing is wrong. Point is both Mauli and Rajdeep have toxic behaviors and while Rajdeep is wayyy worse, Mauli's problems should be talked about as well BUT not in the same standard as Rajdeep.
What i just said sounds super convoluted but yeah


Are you serious, Mauli has toxic behaviours? She isn't perfect, but toxic seriously? Apparently, breaking your loved one's trust and having an EMA is non-toxic and normal behaviour. My point was when Mauli can be blamed for Kunal's mistake, which he is solely responsible for, why can't Nandini be blamed for Rajdeep's infidelity? Victim blaming can also be extrapolated to Nandini as well. And my question is when Mauli is 'toxic', why can't Kunal open his mouth and tell her straight? Mauli has never given the indication that she won't listen to her husband. Is Kunal a 5 month old baby that can't verbalise his feelings? Wow, the justifications given to support Kunal and blame Mauli.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: ZoyaNation18

I see alot of backlash for the show, but in my opinion Silsila is one of the biggest risks Indian TV Shows has ever taken. For real, we've seen enough love/hate relationships and enough saas-bahu drama. I like the idea of Nandini being a sideline chick. I mean it has been done before, but not to this extent. And Mauli isn't all that innocent, she seems suffocating and Kunal is falling out of love with her, and it happens in real life. For crying out loud, it''s 2018. Who cares about EMA affairs being so taboo, it happens more than you think.

OT: I also think Mauli will team up with Rajdeep and become the antagonist. 😲



I completely agree , that Silsa is finally showing what has become so much a part of life today. Which is kinda sad,come to think of the state of the world 😕. The backlash is largely because many people watch TV to get away from their reality , not to be reminded of it . I really really hope Mauli doesn't become a psycho vamp . That would destroy the point of the show , which was to show us how life really works . I'd like it, if they showed us how each of them moved on with life. Because in real life , practically nobody has the resources or the money to plot that level of intense revenge. Maybe Mouli did get clingy , and Kunal did fall out of love -it does happen. But it does not legitimise his affair.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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The show is not the biggest risk on Indian Tv. Trying to glorify EMA in the name of pure love is the biggest risk taken by the CVs, May b thinking that the audience will not b able to differentiate between lust n love.
I agree that such things r so much in fashion and r no longer taboo but show things as it is. A man cheated on his wife, a woman ruined her best friend marriage selfishly and this maha wrong...ok ppl fall out of love then get out of suffocating marriage...no need to row two boats or eat banana at both ends!

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