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luckySnow

@luckySnow

Dazzler

Posted: 7 years ago

My ferocious warrior😭 Hephestion did very wrong killing her ... She was my fav dasyu along with Dasyuraj ...😕

What was the use of kidnapping olympias. All this wouldn't have happened if she wasn't kidnapped. 😡

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inlieu

@inlieu

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: luckySnow
My ferocious warrior😭 Hephestion did very wrong killing her ... She was my fav dasyu along with Dasyuraj ...😕
What was the use of kidnapping olympias. All this wouldn't have happened if she wasn't kidnapped. 😡

Alexander asked them to build the bridge before he found out about Olympias. He signed the treaty that contained their conditions.

This death had nothing to do with the kidnapping itself, but I guess Hephaestion was much more aggressive than he might normally have been because he himself is angered by Olympias' situation. I also think it was partly the effect of seeing Alexander in this state. He will do whatever he can to make Alexander's wishes come true.

He's also always looked up to Olympias and knows what the mother-son bond means. I assume he's grown up seeing them.

I'm very sad that she died. 😭

Edited by inlieu - 7 years ago

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sashashyam

@sashashyam

Sparkler

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Posted: 7 years ago

This is what comes of being a ghoul and waiting eagerly ki kab laashein bichengi. When your wish is fulfilled, the corpses are often those of one's azeez.

Inlieu, Hephaestion WOULD have stabbed Dasyurani from the back. He was bearing down on her from the back, and he had clearly NO intention of warning her. If Dasyuraj had not shouted out to her, and she had not turned, she would surely have been stabbed in the back.

Let us not be in a hurry to talk of the Macedonian code. Yes, Alexander does declare to Darius that he never stabs anyone in the back. But what he does to the Farsi soldiers he has killed after offering them a safe conduct is nothing but stabbing them in the back. He pledged his word as a Shah, and then went back on it blatantly. What kind of honour is this?

I can understand the need for him to identify the bad apples, but he could have jailed them. Instead he has them killed in cold blood after giving them his word that they would be safe.

But Chanakya would have approved. I have always felt that Alexander and Chanakya were birds of the same feather.

That was of course part of the relentless campaign by the CVs to make Alexander look worse and worse. The pointless and savage killing of Kanishka- - which was the trigger for Ambhikumar's defection - was another. If Alexander had not killed Kanishka for no real reason at all, Ambhikumar's defection would not have taken place, and the bridge would have been completed.

The stated reason, to send the dead Kanishka as a substitute for the missing Chanakya, is totally illogical. Losing Chanakya would have really been a bad blow for Porus. Losing Kanishka, who Porus knows hates him, and who had almost had Porus's parents killed, would have hardly mattered to any normal person. So why does Alexander see Kanishka as a suitable replacement for Chanakya?

Kanishka did NOT betray Alexander. He failed in his mission. If that were to merit the death sentence- and Alexander himself goes to murder an unarmed man in his prison cell, which was ugly enough - Alexander would have no allies left in Bharat, or indeed anywhere else. What was he saying to Hephaestion in Caria, and what is he doing now?

The sadistic way of executing Ambhikumar was an extension of the horrible bull sequence. It was savage and unnecessary, 😡as I have noted in an earlier post. Yes, he might have deserved to die, but why in such a horrible fashion? Those who say they didn't mind it must be all Game of Thrones aficionados.😡

The advice he gives Ambhikumar's mother, that she should go inside and see nothing, and then aapko takleef nahin hogi was, for me at least, unbelievable, cruel mockery of her feelings.

Don't fudge this, my very dear friends, just because it is Alexander doing it. It hurts me to see you so deliberately blinding yourself to the things that are, increasingly, wrong, badly wrong with him, and trying to put a positive spin on every negative sequence.

Rohit's superb performance glosses over the cruelty, at times wanton cruelty, of Sony Alexander. But the young, gallant Alexander I loved is fast disappearing. By the time the CVs are done with him, he will be pitch black.😡

It is wicked of the CVs to thus systematically destroy the sole attraction that this show has for many of us. Earlier, it was by suppressio veri, as by dropping Sisygambis, and details of his interaction with Kalana and the other wise men of Bharat, to mention just two examples. Now it is through unceasing, overt attacks on his character, from which they want to leach the last shred of nobility.😡

Enough of this. To revert, apart from the very moving scenes between Dasyuraj and Dasyurani, what I liked was Alexander's unruffled calm - he never frets and fumes, whether it is Bessus or the Dasyu royals letting him down . And of course his extremely shrewd move to box in the Dasyuraj. His capacity for thinking out of the box is phenomenal. I admired both his cool poker play and the easy, gliding grace of his movements. I have always loved the straight-backed, supple way in which he walks. It is so elegant.

Shyamala Aunty

Edited by sashashyam - 7 years ago

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luckySnow

@luckySnow

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Posted: 7 years ago

Chankya and Alexander dono ruthless...

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luckySnow

@luckySnow

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Posted: 7 years ago

Yes I didn't want her lassh but yeh to sala Hona hi tha...all thanks to Chankya stupid strategy to kidnap olympias...

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luckySnow

@luckySnow

Dazzler

Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: inlieu

Alexander asked them to build the bridge before he found out about Olympias. He signed the treaty that contained their conditions.

This death had nothing to do with the kidnapping itself, but I guess Hephaestion was much more aggressive than he might normally have been because he himself is angered by Olympias' situation. I also think it was partly the effect of seeing Alexander in this state. He will do whatever he can to make Alexander's wishes come true.

He's also always looked up to Olympias and knows what the mother-son bond means. I assume he's grown up seeing them.

I'm very sad that she died. 😭

Yes, olympias wala gussa to tha... but may be he was hurt because she kicked his b**t😆

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luckySnow

@luckySnow

Dazzler

Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: sashashyam
This is what comes of being a ghoul and waiting eagerly ki kab laashein bichengi. The corpses are often those of one's azeez.

Inlieu, Hephaestion WOULD have stabbed Dasyurani from the back. He was bearing down on her from the back, and he had clearly NO intention of warning her. If Dasyuraj had not shouted out to her, and she had not turned, she would surely have been stabbed in the back.

Let us not be in a hurry to talk of Macedonian customs. Yes, Alexander does declare to Darius that he never stabs anyone in the back. But what he does to the Farsi soldiers he has killed after offering them a safe conduct is nothing but stabbing them in the back. He pledged his word as a Shah, and then went back on it blatantly. What kind of honour is this?

I can understand the need for him to identify the bad apples, but he could have jailed them. Instead he has them killed in cold blood after giving them his word that they would be safe.

But Chanakya would have approved. I have always felt that Alexander and Chanakya were birds of the same feather.

Apart from the very moving scenes between Dasyuraj and Dasyurani, what I liked was Alexander's unruffled calm - he never frets and fumes, whether it is Bessus or the Dasyu royals . And of course his extremely shrewd move to box in the Dasyuraj. His capacity for thinking out of the box is phenomenal. I admired both his cool poker play and the easy, gliding grace of his movements.

Shyamala Aunty

Has he ever looked vulnerable...except for when it comes to Olympias... No! He keeps his emotions in touch...How would he feel when bucephalus dies?? Waise takle thug ne dhamaka to Kar diya as he promised... he made Alexander weep😆

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sashashyam

@sashashyam

Sparkler

+ 3

Posted: 7 years ago

I have expanded my post considerably, my dear boy. Do take a look at it again. You might not agree with me, but I loved the young Alexander, and I am getting to be more and more unhappy with him as he is these days.

This said, it is wonderful to have you back. You really light up the place, for all that you are too blunt at times.

But don't you dare make fun of the saree. 😉 I used to wear sarees for all my working life of 40 years, and my Kanjeevarams and other party sarees used to be the toast of every foreign capital where I served. It is the most graceful dress one could think of.

Shyamala Aunty

QUOTE=luckySnow]

Originally posted by: sashashyam
This is what comes of being a ghoul and waiting eagerly ki kab laashein bichengi. The corpses are often those of one's azeez.

Inlieu, Hephaestion WOULD have stabbed Dasyurani from the back. He was bearing down on her from the back, and he had clearly NO intention of warning her. If Dasyuraj had not shouted out to her, and she had not turned, she would surely have been stabbed in the back.

Let us not be in a hurry to talk of Macedonian customs. Yes, Alexander does declare to Darius that he never stabs anyone in the back. But what he does to the Farsi soldiers he has killed after offering them a safe conduct is nothing but stabbing them in the back. He pledged his word as a Shah, and then went back on it blatantly. What kind of honour is this?

I can understand the need for him to identify the bad apples, but he could have jailed them. Instead he has them killed in cold blood after giving them his word that they would be safe.

But Chanakya would have approved. I have always felt that Alexander and Chanakya were birds of the same feather.

Apart from the very moving scenes between Dasyuraj and Dasyurani, what I liked was Alexander's unruffled calm - he never frets and fumes, whether it is Bessus or the Dasyu royals . And of course his extremely shrewd move to box in the Dasyuraj. His capacity for thinking out of the box is phenomenal. I admired both his cool poker play and the easy, gliding grace of his movements.

Shyamala Aunty