Zoya did make a valid point- Here is why!!!

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Posted: 7 years ago
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OK. Many may not like it but this is clearly my opinion & thus I don't expect any kind of bashing.


There have been times when Zo had been stupid but this time she isn't entirely wrong.

Though I don't go with reopening case unless you have found something concrete that will definitely win you the case. Here she should think with head and not with emotions only. Find evidences & then go further in this case.

Zo isn't concerned about Mahi but Madhu. And she should be because this woman despite her dislike for her did maintain the dignity of relationship & truth as well.

All the blame in this case fell on Yash only. He is proved murderer, sociopath, failed human being in all spheres of life. For any mother this will not only be traumatic but impossible to live with. Everyone except Yash got free from every charges. While frivolous charges have been put on Yash.

Besides, Zo didn't prove anything against Pooja on record. While charges against Yash are on record & proved to give a final verdict & close the case. (You can't re-open an ongoing case)

I don't understand how did Adi forget the real thing in this whole case that PooSh indeed were having an affair. And Mr. Hooda hid some facts, twisted them to win this case. You may be happy but not happy or insensitive enough to celebrate with this much zeal. (I didn't get the point of that celebration though. Didn't go with Hooda's conventional taste).

Zoya's mother was on fire today. She showed mirror to both Mr. Siddiqui & Zoya today. Both needed to see that reality. Zoya kind of already knew a part of it. (Just doing lovey-dovey talks isn't enough. One needs to be an active participant in a marriage. Yash didn't tell her & Zoya never bothered to know seriously. She was actually casual when it came to her marriage with Yash.). But Mr. Siddiqui definitely needed to hear that today.

About breaking glasses scene- It was symbolic to the fact that if breaking glass could prove a point, then Zoya made a more strong point than Adi. But reality is breaking glasses won't change the truth. You need to accept it.

Adi's raising hand was instant reaction. Acceptable but Adi needed to hear that badly. Zoya has gracefully accepted Yash's cheating & gotten over it, something Adi couldn't do with that much grace. How is it that Adi raising his hand now is fine but when Zo did it then it was mad. First time Adi raised a finger at Zoya for Yash's cheating. Any woman including me would have slapped him for that.

Some more points to those who are still picking up on Zo & saying Zo is completely daft. No she isn't & here is why-

1. Yash has been proved a murderer of Pooja. AdiYa were released on the very same ground. This thing goes on record forever.

2. Easy to blame Madhu for every single thing even when she tries so hard to set things right. Madhu had a lot about AdiYa & she would have stripped both of their honor & proved that AdiYa indeed were having an affair just like Mahi & her statement would have been much more credible in the court. It was too easy for her to stand for prosecution side. She accepted Yash being infidel but proving that he murdered someone is too much.

3. Aditya is still not done with Yash blame rant. While Zo is done with defending Yash's cheating. She isn't defending Yash's cheating. She just stated that they were having an affair & it need to be accepted rather than continuing the blame game. And how it it that Madhu should be blamed. She didn't ask Yash to cheat or even encourage him. Cheating was all on Yash-Pooja. Children do mistakes despite knowing the consequences & yet parents should be blamed. Wahh.
Why should Madhu be blamed when Adi himself stood against Sakshi being blamed for Pooja's cheating. But no Adi went a step further by creating havoc in Madhu's house while Zoya had been nothing but respectful towards Pooja till date. That's hypocrisy on Adi's part. I may say anything about your dead spouse but you shouldn't cross the line. Sadly human nature doesn't work that way. Equal & opposite reaction is a law in itself.

4. Men is judged by his mental capacity & professional credibility & woman by her character in almost every single world society. So, if Pooja was to be framed than the question on her character was definite thing. Even though unacceptable, it is existent still today. Accept it or not but the equation even today unfortunately is Man's incompetence=Woman's character.
If Adi was questioned about his incompetence, it would have created a same impact in his mind as Zoya for being proved an incompetent wife & characterless woman. Some things, work differently for man & woman.

5. Adultery charge that Mr. hooda mentioned are biased in India. A husband can drag his wife & her lover to court on the adultery charges but a woman can't do it under Section 497 in IPC.

6. If Yash was to take down someone with him in his loserdom, then why not Zoya. Pooja was DIL of mighty Hooda's. She was no ordinary woman.

6. This whole case was poorly fought. One day for prosecution & other for the defense & bam, there is the verdict & case is closed. Cases are not closed on speculations but on final judgement. Prosecution has so much to explore in Day 2, but the show has to be dragged, so anything they do is acceptable. Very poorly written court case for a show that is originally based on double-murder mystery.

7. The day Adi comes to know of Pooja being pregnant. Even he would be questioning Pooja's credibility in the very same way. Questioning it to the fact, who was she pregnant with.

8. Zoya said- "They loved each other. They were with each other. And Adi knows it." How exactly is she in denial is beyond me. Zoya didn't defend Yash cheating but she did defend the murder charges. She actually called onto both for the case not just one person. PooSh were no children. They had mutual consent when having an affair. Why would Pooja give 5 crores to someone without proper paerwork & that to a man she just met if she wanted to be all professional. But no, she gave loan on confidence as she believed she would be paid back. Pooja is still a culprit of equal level. Just because Yash had professional life to manage doesn't mean Pooja is free of any charges.

9. Besides, Yash being clinically depressed doesn't mean he would commit suicide. It's just a speculation. So, Yash committed suicide was a speculation as well but Mr. Hooda used it to mark him as a murderer. I have seen clinically depressed cases & if they somehow die in that phase doesn't mean they committed suicide. It could have been an accident as well.

10. Just because Pooja didn't sign divorce papers doesn't mean she didn't intend to, otherwise why would you even want divorce papers to be made. Atleast Zo had a closure because Yash signed papers. Adi didn't even have that privilege. So, Adi is likely to hang in that for a long time.

11. The original case needs to be reopened to explore the whole mystery. This murder is the main plot of the show. Adiya being together in this journey is secondary.

So, Zoya wasn't entirely wrong in bringing out Mr. Hooda's hypocrisy. If dead need not be bothered than , Yash also should have had that privilege.

With this, I rest my case.

P.S- Again no bashes please. It's just my POV. One of the comment asked to put these points in the main post.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I completely agree with you
but if see today adi is now on his families side. .which he was not before

hope such action of Zoya today doesnt bounce back on her. .

marriage with Aditya is bound to happen

papa hooda used sugar coated words and convinced adi to call Zoya

take it from me same person if needed will make adi at as be against Zoya I m sure about that

papa hooda is a big manipulater ...🥱
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I m sorry guys but I think writer should read what he write both harshjen are best but Aditya mujhe some places I found Aditya right and sometimes zoya case Mei faste hi Mr hooda change into pa ,pa aap Hume chhuda de aapki sari galtinya maaf now he is very happy with his family and zoya ka mammi ji bepanah pyaar

Musibat Mei Mr hooda ban Gaye pa
Zoya ka mammi ji aa gale lag ja
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Posted: 7 years ago
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i absolutely loved zoya today. And was hoping someone would make post from her perspective, was actually waiting for shruti's post :)
probably 'reopen' the case is the wrong term here, and that could be to do with the dialogue writer..


... but in whole i was surprised by adi's reaction...i was expecting him to feel more...if papa hooda can understand zoya and her actions then Aditya definitely should have known better!

Originally posted by: arshi_asya

OK. Many may not like it but this is clearly my opinion & thus I don't expect any kind of bashing.


So many may say that Zoya is being utterly stupid. Even I used to be fed up with her Mummyji-Mahi jaap. But today, she was right up to an extent. There are times she had been utterly stupid but in this particular moment she may be right only upto an extent. Though I don't go with reopening case unless you have found something concrete that will definitely win you the case. Here she should think with head and not with emotions only. Find evidences & then go further in this case.
Mind you that Zoya cares only for Mummyji & not Mahi.
All the blame in this case fell on Yash only. He is proved murderer, sociopath, failed human being in all spheres of life. For any mother this will not only be traumatic but impossible to live with. Zoya-Adi-Pooja all were acquitted in this case except for Yash on whom the whole blame fell. Yash has been proved not only suicidal but also fraud & murderer. This probably is the main triggering point for Zoya.

So, Zoya proving a point that it pains her equally just like it did Adi if something similar was mentioned about Pooja is substantial.

I don't understand how did Adi forget the real thing in this whole case that PooSh indeed were having an affair. And Mr. Hooda hid some facts, twisted them to win this case. You may be happy but not happy or insensitive enough to celebrate with this much zeal. (I didn't get the point of that celebration though. Didn't go with Hooda's conventional taste.

Zoya's mother was on fire today. She showed mirror to both Mr. Siddiqui & Zoya today. Both needed to see that reality. Zoya kind of already knew a part of it. (Just doing lovey-dovey talks isn't enough. One needs to be an active participant in a marriage. Yash didn't tell her & Zoya never bothered to know seriously. She was actually casual when it came to her marriage with Yash.). But Mr. Siddiqui definitely needed to hear that today.

About breaking glasses scene- It was symbolic to the fact that if breaking glass could prove a point, then Zoya made a more strong point than Adi. But reality is breaking glasses won't change the truth. You need to accept it.

Adi's raising hand was instant reaction. Acceptable but Adi needed to hear that badly. Zoya has gracefully accepted Yash's cheating & gotten over it, something Adi couldn't do with that much grace.

P.S- Again no bashes please. It's just my POV.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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wtevr u wrote is r8
bt one thing is dt Zoya at first placed condition for whc Mr Hooda had to turn everything ups down otherws no allegations were solely put on Yash happened.

Next as Adi promised he won't object anythinguntil they both gt freed. we can see he too was disturbed wid all fake dramas bt kept mum only for their freedom. if nt he too won't accepted all shits remember!!!!!!
Yes I can relate wid Zoya's pain bt u need to b practical also..u can't always be a emotional fool..wt she is actually frm d beginning.. sad bt it is d TRUTH.
if Mr Hooda didn't turned things lyk dis...complexity would b doubled & it was possible dt they could b declared murderers too...yes! heard it r8! wtevr evidences were shown in court if a competent lawyer had been fighting dis could b happened.. we can't guarantee na? such cheating murders r happening in reality also.
Btw wt I'm saying is venting anger on Aditya & spitting ill abt a woman...doesn't go wid a person lyk Zoyya who talks big abt LIFE...u hv to analyze things too & think abt consequence also
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: arshi_asya

OK. Many may not like it but this is clearly my opinion & thus I don't expect any kind of bashing.


So many may say that Zoya is being utterly stupid. Even I used to be fed up with her Mummyji-Mahi jaap. But today, she was right up to an extent. There are times she had been utterly stupid but in this particular moment she may be right only upto an extent. Though I don't go with reopening case unless you have found something concrete that will definitely win you the case. Here she should think with head and not with emotions only. Find evidences & then go further in this case.
Mind you that Zoya cares only for Mummyji & not Mahi.
I will take Zoya's self righteousness seriously AFTER she confronts Mahi, till then she is a fool and a hypocritical one at that
All the blame in this case fell on Yash only. He is proved murderer, sociopath, failed human being in all spheres of life.

Given the circumstances it's not a stretch that Yash in his loserdom took Pooja down with him. Sociopath? how? Well he was indeed a failed human being in every sphere of his life without a question

For any mother this will not only be traumatic but impossible to live with.
Mother should have raised a better son and should at least be aware enough to see what a menace her daughter is. Madhu is lucky Zoya in some misplaced sense of responsibility is carrying the baggage of her failures but those are MADHU'S FAILURES. SHE CAN'T ESCAPE THEM
Zoya-Adi-Pooja all were acquitted in this case except for Yash on whom the whole blame fell. Yash has been proved not only suicidal but also fraud & murderer.
Not proved. Speculated. Adiya were released due to lack of evidence not because something was proved. This is just another one of theories, Madhu and Zoya should stop being being such a delicate snowflake
This probably is the main triggering point for Zoya.

She should work on acceptance because nothing said and done is a stretch

So, Zoya proving a point that it pains her equally just like it did Adi if something similar was mentioned about Pooja is substantial.

Something similar was not mentioned for Pooja. Zoya called Pooja a prostitute and took away her victim card. Calling a woman prostitute with no evidence at all is not equal to calling out a grown man on his failures which has substantial evidence. Yes Yash's loserdom has evidences. Just look at hs fianances

I don't understand how did Adi forget the real thing in this whole case that PooSh indeed were having an affair. And Mr. Hooda hid some facts, twisted them to win this case. You may be happy but not happy or insensitive enough to celebrate with this much zeal. (I didn't get the point of that celebration though. Didn't go with Hooda's conventional taste.

Zoya's mother was on fire today. She showed mirror to both Mr. Siddiqui & Zoya today. Both needed to see that reality. Zoya kind of already knew a part of it. (Just doing lovey-dovey talks isn't enough. One needs to be an active participant in a marriage. Yash didn't tell her & Zoya never bothered to know seriously. She was actually casual when it came to her marriage with Yash.). But Mr. Siddiqui definitely needed to hear that today.

About breaking glasses scene- It was symbolic to the fact that if breaking glass could prove a point, then Zoya made a more strong point than Adi.
How? Zoya has no point to make, unless you call denial and stockholm syndrome a point she is completely pointless 🤣
But reality is breaking glasses won't change the truth. You need to accept it.

Adi's raising hand was instant reaction. Acceptable but Adi needed to hear that badly.
Stripping a woman of his dignity is not equal to calling a grown man out on his incompetence
Zoya has gracefully accepted Yash's cheating & gotten over it, something Adi couldn't do with that much grace.

She is far from accepting it, unless you call accepting wrongs done to you without a wince grace there is nothing graceful about Zoya's sympathies for Yash. Infact Adi is ahead of her in this matter, he is not demonizing Pooja but not worshipping at her altar despite her indiscretions either

P.S- Again no bashes please. It's just my POV.



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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: mahi_gurmeet

wtevr u wrote is r8

bt one thing is dt Zoya at first placed condition for whc Mr Hooda had to turn everything ups down otherws no allegations were solely put on Yash happened.

Next as Adi promised he won't object anythinguntil they both gt freed. we can see he too was disturbed wid all fake dramas bt kept mum only for their freedom. if nt he too won't accepted all shits remember!!!!!!
Yes I can relate wid Zoya's pain bt u need to b practical also..u can't always be a emotional fool..wt she is actually frm d beginning.. sad bt it is d TRUTH.
if Mr Hooda didn't turned things lyk dis...complexity would b doubled & it was possible dt they could b declared murderers too...yes! heard it r8! wtevr evidences were shown in court if a competent lawyer had been fighting dis could b happened.. we can't guarantee na? such cheating murders r happening in reality also.
Btw wt I'm saying is venting anger on Aditya & spitting ill abt a woman...doesn't go wid a person lyk Zoyya who talks big abt LIFE...u hv to analyze things too & think abt consequence also


Mr. Hooda had a proof that could turn this whole case upside down. PooSh would have been proved to be having an affair. And primary charge on AdiYa would have been proved futile. The main charge was that they knew each other way before & murdered their spouses to be together. Diary was the proof of an alternate version altogether. Ashish knew way more than he led on.

But he didn't use it at all. Instead he made a whole new version where only Yash was the only culprit.

So, there is no practicality in it. Everyone is thinking that AdiYa got free. Yeah, but the case is still far from over. Mr. Hooda brought a completely new narrative to win. He saved his a** by hiding some real facts of the case. Besides, I don't think Zo spitted venom on Pooja she just wanted Adi to not do the same with Yash by citing an example. And that's the big difference. She said that they both loved each other, wanted to be together & it should be accepted gracefully rather than blaming-defaming the other for the same.

As far as big thing is concerned. Law has to maintain dignity even of the dead. Most of the charges on Yash by Mr. Hooda are false & he won the case for time being on false charges. Yash might have been clinically depressed, failed in business & management of funds, even might have taken loans from many. But he wasn't murderer. He might have been suicidal at some point but definitely not a murderer.

He signed divorce papers proved that he wanted divorce from Zoya but Pooja also had divorce papers made. Just becasue she didn't sign them doesn't mean she didn't intend to sign them at some point otherwise why would you want to make them. Beside Pooja was pregnant at that time is another mystery in the case pointing to who was she pregnant with- Adi or Yash?

So, the case original case has to be opened again to bring out the actual truth. This case will be tagged in that only.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: silky_harshad



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Just one question?? Did Zoya prove anything in court that Pooja is characterless n all.. she was just making a point.not really questioning her character.
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Originally posted by: silky_harshad



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1. Yash has been proved a murderer of Pooja. AdiYa were released on the very same ground. Sociopath in the sense that man killed someone else's wife only because she asked her money back.

2. Easy to blame Madhu for every single thing even when she tries so hard to set things right. Madhu had a lot about AdiYa & she would have stripped both of their honor & proved that AdiYa indeed were having an affair just like Mahi & her statement would have been much more credible in the court. It was too easy for her to stand for prosecution side. She accepted Yash being infidel but proving that he murdered someone is too much.

3. Aditya is still not done with Yash blame rant. While Zo is done with defending Yash's cheating. She isn't defending Yash's cheating. She just stated that they were having an affair & it need to be accepted rather than continuing the blame game. And how it it that Madhu should be blamed. She didn't ask Yash to cheat or even encourage him. Cheating was all on Yash-Pooja. Children do mistakes despite knowing the consequences & yet parents should be blamed. Wahh.
Why should Madhu be blamed when Adi himself stood against Sakshi being blamed for Pooja's cheating. But no Adi went a step further by creating havoc in Madhu's house while Zoya had been nothing but respectful towards Pooja till date. That's hypocrisy on Adi's part. I may say anything about your dead spouse but you shouldn't cross the line. Sadly human nature doesn't work that way. Equal & opposite reaction is a law in itself.

4. Men is judged by his mental capacity & professional credibility & woman by her character in almost every single world society. So, if Pooja was to be framed than the question on her character was definite thing. Even though unacceptable, it is existent still today. Accept it or not but the equation even today unfortunately is Man's incompetence=Woman's character.
If Adi was questioned about his incompetence, it would have created a same impact in his mind as Zoya for being proved an incompetent wife & characterless woman. Some things, work differently for man & woman.

5. Adultery charge that Mr. hooda mentioned are biased in India. A husband can drag his wife & her lover to court on the adultery charges but a woman can't do it under Section 497 in IPC.

6. If Yash was to take down someone with him in his loserdom, then why not Zoya. Pooja was DIl of mighty Hooda's. She was no ordinary woman.

6. This whole case was poorly fought. One day for prosecution & other for the defense & bam, there is the verdict & case is closed. Cases are not closed on speculations but on final judgement. Prosecution has so much to explore in Day 2, but the show has to be dragged, so anything they do is acceptable. Very poorly written court case for a show that is originally based on double-murder mystery.

7. The day Adi comes to know of Pooja being pregnant. Even he would be questioning Pooja's credibility in the very same way. Questioning it to the fact, who was she pregnant with.

8. Zoya said- "They loved each other. They were with each other. And Adi knows it." How exactly is she in denial is beyond me. Zoya didn't defend Yash cheating but she did defend the murder charges. She actually called onto both for the case not just one person. PooSh were no children. They had mutual consent when having an affair. Why would Pooja give 5 crores to someone without proper paerwork & that to a man she just met if she wanted to be all professional. But no, she gave loan on confidence as she believed she wouldn't be paid back.

9. Besides, Yash being clinically depressed doesn't mean he would commit suicide. It's just a speculation. So, Yash committed suicide was a speculation as well but Mr. Hooda used it to mark him as a murderer. I have seen clinically depressed cases & if they somehow die in that phase doesn't mean they committed suicide. It could have been an accident as well.

10. Just because Pooja didn't sign divorce papers doesn't mean she didn't intend to, otherwise why would you even want divorce papers to be made. Atleast Zo had a closure because Yash signed papers. Adi didn't even have that privilege. So, Adi is likely to hang in that for a long time.

11. The original case needs to be reopened to explore the whole mystery. This murder is the main plot of the show. Adiya being together in this journey is secondary.

So, Zoya wasn't entirely wrong in bringing out Mr. Hooda's hypocrisy. If dead need not be bothered than , Yash also should have had that privilege.

With this, I rest my case.


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ruhi07



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Just one question?? Did Zoya prove anything in court that Pooja is characterless n all.. she was just making a point.not really questioning her character.


Exactly my point.

But still people need to point Zoya out. Even now Zoya is saying that they loved each other. She isn't bitter towards neither Yash nor Pooja. But Adi is nothing but bitter towards both of them & still people say Adi is way more better than Zoya. I mean how?

She only wanted dead not to be blamed anymore. But here she is angry it was done only to her husband. It affects every single person in her circle. What did Adi lose with it. His wife got a clean chit.

Zoya was stupid wen she was not not leaving her Yash rant (which she was to an extent). And she is stupid even now, when she doesn't agree to so many frivolous charges made against her dead husband. (Something I don't completely agree)

The case has to be reopened again to know the real story. Case was buried in the very first week of Bepannah. Besides, you can only reopen a closed case & not a case that is still ongoing & didn't have a final verdict. So, there was no speculation about Yash but some serious charges that were taken into count while giving the verdict. But Zoya should do it only when she has something concrete to prove her point.

One situational example, everyone goes haywire. Not to forget, Adi did cross line many times before as well.

Yash was proved something in a court from where it will go to everyone & in records. While Zoya said it in a house, which won't create the same result. But many are still not getting the essence of it.

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