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Posted: 7 years ago
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LOL!

Aunty, of course I'm not going to advise her on what to do! 😆 There are plenty of people in the Porus team who can do it. 😉 I said that out of exasperation because there aren't many days left and I wanted us to enjoy some romance. Sid T and his team have made some good casting decisions but this one fell flat.

As for today's episode, thanks for providing the overview, I went and watched the beginning just for Alexander and Hephaestion. It drove home the point to Roxanne, that not only Olympias thinks the world of Alexander but so does Hephaestion, going by his dialogues full of praise and admiration for Alexander's strategies.

Why do I have a feeling that Roxanne might actually be the one to pre-empt Chanakya's scheme and might even directly or indirectly point Alexander towards handling this threat the right way? Based on what she saw him do with Bessus and how he reacted to the ghaddaari vs wafadaari because they killed Darius, she will likely draw parallels with Taxila giving up their ally Porus. Her look of concern did not seem to me to be because things were going according to her husband's plan. She appeared to be thinking beyond that while Alexander is still taking digs at her soon to fall apart afsaane.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear girls,

So now you are planning to conduct an acting tutorial for apni Roxanne?😆

The fact is that pairs who were not even on talking terms have done wonderful love scenes together. I have seen this in films. In Jodha Akbar, I don't think Rajat and Paridhi were pals, but their scenes together were excellent. I cannot imagine why Aparna, who is no newbie, should be intimidated by Rohit, who, though a superb performer, is not a superstar, and the same holds good for Sameeksha, who is even less of a celebrity.

So none of your excuses holds water, and while you will of course do what you please, my advice would be to lay off and not try to advise the girl about what she should do. She will either ignore it, as it is bound to irritate her, or she will get even worse.

She looks like a model, not an actress, and I find it hard to believe that she could have been all that good in another show. A good actor is always good, no matter what the role. I have not yet seen Rohit do a proper love scene, but in a scene of love, where he was at his comatose father's beside, his face, and even his profile, dripped with tenderness, as did the way he caressed Philip's forehead and hair. I could see from that with what tenderness Alexander would handle the girl he loves. But I cannot imagine this Roxanne showing any tenderness, not to speak of melting love.

And what has the enormity of the production got to do with her performance? All she should be concerned with is her role, which is bound to be quite small. She is making whatever she has at hand as bad as possible, that is all.

As for today's episode, inlieu, you can safely skip it.

There was one minute of Alexander getting the news that Takshashila has agreed to his proposal, where he made his standard juvenile wisecrack directed at Roxanne. It was so silly that I felt like clouting him good and hard. 😡 For a change, Roxanne nibbled at a nut and though she looked agonised, as if she had bitten on a rotten one, she kept her mouth shut, which was a mercy😉. Alexander was shown wondering about whom Takshashila would send to greet him.

Then there was 3 minutes of conversation between Chanakya and Puru about pawan ka rukh hamesha ek nahin rahta, which was a hint from Chanakya that Ambhiraj was likely to switch sides. Chanakya then left for Alexander's camp. Alexander and he will meet only tomorrow.

The rest was unrelieved, obscene Shivdutt, leavened by a truly wonderful little scene with Malay standing tall - as tall as he could - and defending Anusuya. That kid was the hero of the show tonight. He was totally adorable, mouthing long lines with his baby lisp, with his round eyes opened to the fullest in grim determination while he stood on guard like a little soldier, holding a dagger that he had found on the floor. 👏👏👏

Why Anusuya did not grab that dagger and stab Shivdutt is a mystery to me, but perhaps tonight was her abla naari night.😡

The precap was as horrible as the bulk of the episode, all Shivdutt planning some more atrocities.

Shyamala Aunty

Edited by inlieu - 7 years ago

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I 2 had seen aparna in kalash , she was gud , so i will not argue on it as everyone as their own POV
But d most unexpressive person 4 me r shivdutt & barsine when they show their big eyes.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#33
@bold is quite possible, my dear. I am by now so exasperated with this Roxanne that I probably don't give her the benefit of the doubt.

But remember that the point about Ambhiraj being ready to hand over Porus to Alexander is something that Chanakya tells Alexander only directly. Hephaestion does not know that, nor does Alexander expect it at this point. I also doubt if he knows about the alliance between Paurav Rashtra, Dasyu Lok and Takshashila against him.

So he has no reason, at this point of time, to see it as a betrayal by Takshashila of their alliance with Paurav Rashtra. Nor does he know that Porus is the Paurav crown prince.

One has to keep all this too in mind before allotting any brownie points to Roxanne. Truth to tell, I suspect she would be happy to see Alexander come a cropper, and is unlikely to warn him about any deception ahead. I would of course be happy to be proved wrong about her!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: inlieu

LOL!

Aunty, of course I'm not going to advise her on what to do! 😆 There are plenty of people in the Porus team who can do it. 😉 I said that out of exasperation because there aren't many days left and I wanted us to enjoy some romance. Sid T and his team have made some good casting decisions but this one fell flat.

As for today's episode, thanks for providing the overview, I went and watched the beginning just for Alexander and Hephaestion. It drove home the point to Roxanne, that not only Olympias thinks the world of Alexander but so does Hephaestion, going by his dialogues full of praise and admiration for Alexander's strategies.

Why do I have a feeling that Roxanne might actually be the one to pre-empt Chanakya's scheme and might even directly or indirectly point Alexander towards handling this threat the right way? Based on what she saw him do with Bessus and how he reacted to the ghaddaari vs wafadaari because they killed Darius, she will likely draw parallels with Taxila giving up their ally Porus. Her look of concern did not seem to me to be because things were going according to her husband's plan. She appeared to be thinking beyond that while Alexander is still taking digs at her soon to fall apart afsaane.

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Posted: 7 years ago
#34
Pehli nazar mein hi pyaar ho gaya, Deepika! Buddhu kahin ka! Ab use taane maarte rahta hai, chhote ladke ke jaise.

I suppose Indian freshwater pearls would have been available those days in Afghanistan, or at the border of Bharat. The trade with Rome a little later included freshwater pearls.

I really enjoyed both your posts here, my dear, and I agree with most of what you have noted in them, for all that I am not of the same opinion as you about this Roxanne. That is not so much because she is hostile to Alexander, as because she cannot project anything more than that single expression of hers. Inlieu is waiting breathlessly for the great love story to materialise, but I don't expect any fireworks with this pairing. Rohit will have to do double duty, poor chap!😉

Shyamala Di

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

Nice analysis di

Maybe I m d only but I can understand roxxane some where but I m not justifying her behavior. First of all this marriage was a power play of Alexander coz he did directly or indirectly forced roxxane into marrying him as he wanted 2 get roxxane at any cost . The best part of this marriage is that Alexander actually is giving roxxane time but he is not giving away his self respect as he does counter attack roxxane's words & don't silently tolerate it.

If we see makers had highlighted d difference b/w roxxane & barsine

Roxxane who is not princess by birth did understood her one NO will bring a very big loss, as Alexander will destroy bactria even her father oxyarteis's life will be in danger , so she did sacrificed herself 4 all these things , In this serial she had not married Alexander coz she wanted 2 become queen of asia . roxxane dint had a very gud impression of Alexander , all thanks 2 khauff e Alexander , roxxane addressing alexander shah e asia was a plain buttering according 2 me . Alexander killed bessus 4 betraying darius , he was right from his pov but wrong from roxxane's pov same goes 4 bactrian killing darius , offering friendship 2 alex were right from their pov but wrong from alex's pov . things went 2 fast 4 roxxane as all these incident happened in 2 days time span

She came 2 know Alexander attacking bactria

Bactrian kill darius

Her first meet with Alexander in his tent, inviting him 2 bessus's palace

Alexander kill bessus

Appointing oxyarteis as new shah

Alexander proposing her & her rude refusal

Alexander demanding her hand publically indirectly forcing her 2 agree

Her marriage with Alexander

Alexander marching off 2 india

So I feel roxxane needs some time & her saying to Alexander " mujhe ye sab manjoor nhi , I feel she wanted 2 say she is not ready 4 it yet. Regarding puru's mention I feel she found a way 2 hurt Alexander , she is taunting Alexander just 2 hurt him . regarding murga mention alex did looked shocked but I felt she was just giving it as a reference not calling Alexander murga like Alexander called himself as moon .

As per d track record of Alexander's tracks I m sure by this week or next roxxane will be madly in luv with alex coz none of alex's tracks r ever dragged , yeh saubhagya 2 paurav rashtra ke tracks ka hai jo chewing gum ki tarah drag hote hai.

Regaring aparna as roxxane , I had seen aparna in kalash opposite krip suri , she was good , even she was appreciated 4 her acting in kalash , gods know what wrong with roxxane.

Barsine despite being a royal princess by birth never realized d consequences of her stupid actions , she just wanted 2 safeguard herself , her mother & sister , Persian people can go 2 hell , d most shocking thing 4 me was queen statiera 2 never thought of Persian people . thanks 2 alex 4 reminding these selfish women their responsibilities.

why was that necklace kept in royal diining room ??? That is precisely what I too had asked in the post!

olympias was quiet straightforward when she asked roxxane about necklace thing , yes roxxane was speechless coz definately she will not reply her like she replied alexander & she would never had thought that olympias will ask her regarding necklace thing. i feel currently olympias has no problem with roxxane till alexander is happy coz if olympias was disliking roxxane then she would definately command alexander " KATAL KARDO ISKA ALEXANDER OR MAAR DALO like she coomanded alex 4 barsine. olympias looked like she was enjoying d conversation b/w alex & roxxane . let see her future equation with roxxane.

from where did alexander got meethe paani ke pearls that 2 from bharat

mujhe to pata hi nhi chala ki alexander ko roxxane se pyar kab ho gaya ???

Edited by sashashyam - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Aunty, the way I see it, Roxanne has been brought in the for the romance angle. It is too much to expect the CVs to have her participate in or impact crucial events. I am not waiting "breathlessly" for the romance. 😆 I just don't see what else she is supposed to be doing in her scenes with Alexander, so can we at least get bare minimum romance so that makers can justify her entry in the show? Are we going to see her fall in love with Alexander - at least in theory if not via convincing non-existent facial expressions - or will it continue to be husband and wife taking digs at each other? I'm not interested in seeing that, frankly. It it is too typical of Indian shows. There are ways to show one's dislike for something without resorting to taane. Some subtlety please? 😕

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Posted: 7 years ago
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@Deepika, as I had mentioned in a previous post, I can understand the source of her displeasure and anger towards Alexander. I may or may not agree with some of the things she does and says but I am trying to see things from her point of view.

What you have mentioned here is bang on! If we look at her point of view, she's hardly had a chance for a breather and has seen a lot of negatives of Alexander. I think being forced to marry him is what has been bothering her the most because she still believes he did that as a show of power and not because he loves her. Yes, he told her twice already how he feels, but she didn't seem convinced. Her bitterness is due to the current state of her life and also for being dragged all the way to India right after getting married to whom she "thinks" is a monster. Alexander's parting line in episode 139 is spot on - Roxanne has a ghalatfehmi about his intentions and feelings for her. She doesn't think she does, though (have a ghalatfehmi), and will use all these tactics to get back at him in her own way. She knows that she can get away with it and will try and test the limits of his patience and respect as far as possible. Meanwhile, Alexander will give her time (not sure how long) but it sounded like he was going to go the distance and play out this waiting game until she tired so that he would end up winning at the end no matter what. I do not think he will force her in any way - he has plenty of scope to do so but it would be beneath him. Now that he knows how she feels, he wants her to love him for him and not because of his power or because he is Zeus ka beta. That does not mean that he is going to sit still in the meantime. He's got a few things going on in his head, time will tell what.

I am sure a lot of the audience, who have successfully been converted by the CVs to the school that thinks Alexander is a bhediya, a beherehm qaatil, etc. would be completely rooting for and sympathizing with "poor" Roxanne. They probably also feel that Alexander deserves all the taunts and mistreatment she's throwing his way and that she is suffering due to the "unfairness" of the situtation.

As for whether she needs or even wants time or not, this is hard for me to tell. She never promises him anything and even when Alexander insists that one day she will understand him and accept his love and their relationship, she does not seem to care. What she feels towards him is a mix of hatred, anger, and bitterness that is not going to go away so easily. I don't know how soon this track will be wrapped up, but I expect this to be a running theme that will only be resolved towards the end of the show because of the fact that she gave him a condition for winning her love. The question I would ask is, what happens if Alexander does not win the battle? Will he be stuck in a loveless marriage? If nothing else, then this could be an argument as to why the CVs may show him winning the battle after all

As for your last question, well Alexander was hit by a thunderbolt when he first met her - I guess it's the whole "love at first sight" thing, that prompted Alexander to make the best or worst decision about marriage, given the circumstances. I am wondering if he's rethinking his earlier assessment of her as being nek dil. 😆

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

Nice analysis di

Maybe I m d only but I can understand roxxane some where but I m not justifying her behavior. First of all this marriage was a power play of Alexander coz he did directly or indirectly forced roxxane into marrying him as he wanted 2 get roxxane at any cost . The best part of this marriage is that Alexander actually is giving roxxane time but he is not giving away his self respect as he does counter attack roxxane's words & don't silently tolerate it.

If we see makers had highlighted d difference b/w roxxane & barsine

Roxxane who is not princess by birth did understood her one NO will bring a very big loss, as Alexander will destroy bactria even her father oxyarteis's life will be in danger , so she did sacrificed herself 4 all these things , In this serial she had not married Alexander coz she wanted 2 become queen of asia . roxxane dint had a very gud impression of Alexander , all thanks 2 khauff e Alexander , roxxane addressing alexander shah e asia was a plain buttering according 2 me . Alexander killed bessus 4 betraying darius , he was right from his pov but wrong from roxxane's pov same goes 4 bactrian killing darius , offering friendship 2 alex were right from their pov but wrong from alex's pov . things went 2 fast 4 roxxane as all these incident happened in 2 days time span

She came 2 know Alexander attacking bactria

Bactrian kill darius

Her first meet with Alexander in his tent, inviting him 2 bessus's palace

Alexander kill bessus

Appointing oxyarteis as new shah

Alexander proposing her & her rude refusal

Alexander demanding her hand publically indirectly forcing her 2 agree

Her marriage with Alexander

Alexander marching off 2 india

So I feel roxxane needs some time & her saying to Alexander " mujhe ye sab manjoor nhi , I feel she wanted 2 say she is not ready 4 it yet. Regarding puru's mention I feel she found a way 2 hurt Alexander , she is taunting Alexander just 2 hurt him . regarding murga mention alex did looked shocked but I felt she was just giving it as a reference not calling Alexander murga like Alexander called himself as moon .

As per d track record of Alexander's tracks I m sure by this week or next roxxane will be madly in luv with alex coz none of alex's tracks r ever dragged , yeh saubhagya 2 paurav rashtra ke tracks ka hai jo chewing gum ki tarah drag hote hai.

Regaring aparna as roxxane , I had seen aparna in kalash opposite krip suri , she was good , even she was appreciated 4 her acting in kalash , gods know what wrong with roxxane.

Barsine despite being a royal princess by birth never realized d consequences of her stupid actions , she just wanted 2 safeguard herself , her mother & sister , Persian people can go 2 hell , d most shocking thing 4 me was queen statiera 2 never thought of Persian people . thanks 2 alex 4 reminding these selfish women their responsibilities.

why was that necklace kept in royal diining room ???

olympias was quiet straightforward when she asked roxxane about necklace thing , yes roxxane was speechless coz definately she will not reply her like she replied alexander & she would never had thought that olympias will ask her regarding necklace thing. i feel currently olympias has no problem with roxxane till alexander is happy coz if olympias was disliking roxxane then she would definately command alexander " KATAL KARDO ISKA ALEXANDER OR MAAR DALO like she coomanded alex 4 barsine. olympias looked like she was enjoying d conversation b/w alex & roxxane . let see her future equation with roxxane.

from where did alexander got meethe paani ke pearls that 2 from bharat

mujhe to pata hi nhi chala ki alexander ko roxxane se pyar kab ho gaya ???

Edited by inlieu - 7 years ago
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@bold, yes this is so true! Alexander has always aimed to rule people hearts, especially his soldiers, and it is said that he had a great deal of success using this approach.

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

Regarding poras , makers had not given him a story of a warrior but story of samaj sudharak.

Till now d articles I had read about king poras is he was brave , powerful & humble king who was luved by his people. Sony TV poras is very proudy who think of himself 2 high. He can only see faults in other, but could not see his own faults coz he is hypocrate. He says Alex attack on back , what Puru did with Alex's weaponry & ships in faras what is that called Mahanta. Poras story in this serial is only family drama .

Cvs r not portraying chanakya wrong coz Chanakya was known 4 his kootniti & Rajneeti

Diff b/w Chanakya & Puru was shown when Alex name came out
Chanakya only spoke what was needed , then silently kept thinking what can be done
Puru started nonstop about Alex which was definitely not needed coz nobody ask him give speech on alexander

Now I m waiting 4 Chanakya & Alexander's meeting coz I m sure Chanakya will notice those points of Alexander which Puru could never saw as he was busy finding faults in Alex or Alex only show Puru those points which he wanted 2.

Hathi mere saathi jai raam ji ki finally aapke darshan hue, credit goes 2 Puru 4 thinking 2 use elephants in his army . I m sure elephants Ko training ki zarurat nhi kyunki superman Puru ke elephants ke pass super power ho gi

Vaise one thing is there , Alex is darinda, bhediya, rakshas Sab hai lekin phir bhi uske paas ek loyal army hai aur Puru mahan , adarshvadi hai to uske paas koi army nhi.


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Hi Aunty,
Thanks for writing back with further points. My response in green.

Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear girls,


As I noted above, I have read all your posts with much interest, especially those of Ayesha and Inlieu. I have just been watching the Friday episode for the second time to clarify a few points for myself. I shall now put down those points, in no particular order, for you to consider.

1) Roxanne is, if not afraid, at least somewhat nervous of Olympias.

When Olympias says that she has heard that Roxanne refused a beautful gift from Alexander (that three strand pearl necklace is, for some odd reason, displayed in the royal tent, as if it was in a jeweller's window!😆), Roxanne looks decidedly uncomfortable and at a loss for an answer. She should have been left to stew in her own juice and try to find an appropriate response to her mother-in-law, for Olympias does not look as though she will let go without one. But Alexander, stupid chap, butts in at the crucial moment with his jibe about her nazar, and Roxanne is let off the hook. 😡

Roxanne hasn't seen what Olympias is really made of, and I loved the look of discomfort on her face when she realized that
1. Alexander tells his mother everything (or that she finds out anyway)
2. Olympias does not hesitate to ask questions directly
😆

Though Olympias lets her down lightly this time, when she says that she hopes they will both soon speak with the same voice, she is looking only at Roxanne, and under the sweet surface, there is a hidden warning. I am waiting to see what Olympias does if Roxanne goes too far in baiting Alexander. She can be brutal, and she will be direct in her attack.

Morever, I am not sure Sony Olympias likes Sony Roxanne. She must have welcomed the marriage hoping that it would divert Alexander's mind from Bharat, but that has not happened. And now Roxanne is being snippish with the apple of Olympias' eye. She is bound to react adversely very soon.

I can't wait to see Olympias become a mama bear if needed. She's already out of her mind with worry for Alexander's safety now that he's in Bharat. She doesn't need him to be burdened or distracted by all this venomous talk. Moreover, Olympias wants Roxanne to understand how lucky she is to have married her aankhon ka taara.

2) Following from the above point, why had Olympias been brought to India by the CVs? They are scatter-brained, agreed, but not to such an extent. There is some plot point coming soon where her presence will be necessary. I can't even guess what that could be, unless it is to help Alexander handle this termagant he has committed the folly of marrying. Can you think of some reason?

I agree, she didn't just come along for the ride, there's some plot point for sure. Barring some harebrained scheme the CVs have planned, I can think of a few. She may:
  • Show Alexander that he doesn't need to prove his worth to anyone and help restore his confidence.
  • Help Alexander see through Chanakya's plot regarding Taxila and Puru and help him refocus on the battle.
  • Remind Alexander when things become tough, that the Oracle had said he is meant to be naqaabile shikast in battle.
  • Act as the catalyst for Roxanne tying the raakhi on Puru's wrist.
  • Ask Alexander to leave Bharat after the battle (whether or not he is defeated) and not continue further.
  • Ask him to marry Barsine to get some peace in his life, which might prompt a jealous Roxanne to try and poison him.
I may be totally wrong of course, and the CVs have been known to derail all our reasoning on many occasions.

3) I have been studying Roxanne's face closely to see if I was not being unfair to her: maybe she had a few expressions on show after all! 😆But nope. There was not a single new one. All through the murga scene, she looked exactly the same, and that was the same look that she had during the pearl necklace scene with Alexander the day before. Which is, in its way, quite an achievement!😉

Ha ha! I just think of her as a necessary tool to propel the story forward.

4) Coming to Porus, he tells Chanakya and the rest that Alexander 's real aim in seeking an agreement with Takshashila is to get at him, Porus. Which probably leads to the scene in the precap where Chanakya is telling Alexander that Ambhiraj would be prepared to hand Porus over to him.

In the earlier part of the precap, Alexander is listening to Chanakya talk about the agreement with his head slightly on one side and a somewhat sceptical look on his face that reassured me.😉 But when the second half of the precap came up, and the handing over of Porus was mentioned, that sceptical look had disappeared, though there was no eagerness on Alexander's face. My spirits fell! Let us see what actually happens, for precaps are notoriously deceptive, often deliberately so.

I am trying not to read too much into the precap because they are often misleading!

But this is not my main point, which is this: how does Alexander know that Porus is in Takshashila? Secondly, does he know who Porus is, ie that he is the crown prince of Paurav Rashtra? I think not. So, Porus' assertion that Alexander's main aim is to get at him, Porus, and imprison him sees like kite flying.

Maybe he has done his homework and now knows who Porus is. I find hit hard to believe he'd get so far and not try and learn about Porus' whereabouts.

Alexander might well, after Puru's shenanigans in Persia, really be as keen to get hold of Porus as he is to conquer Bharat. But that desire can have nothing to do with his dealings with Takshashila now, for he cannot know that Porus is near at hand in Takshashila.

Is it possible that Alexander has learned about the history between Taxila and Paurav Rashtra, and that is why he has sent a message to Ambhiraj to surrender? Perhaps he is aware of the possibility that Amhiraj might renege on his agreement with Paurav Rashtra and act to save his own kingdom. Alexander never asked them to hand over Porus. This gift is being offered by Ambhiraj of his own accord so Alexander should be very suspicious of this gesture, if he is using 100% of that shaatir demaag of his.

Normally he would not take too kindly to Ambhiraj handing over an ally in order to save himself and his people from Alexander's wrath. There are many parallels with the Bactria track, so this could go any way.

On the other hand, if he does not know about the currently "good" relation between Taxila and Paurav Rashtra and thinks they are enemies, what would he think of the offer? Probably wonder why Ambhiraj feels the need to capture an enemy to hand over to Alexander without being asked to do so. To ensure that his kingdom is extra secure after being surrendered? No idea. Alexander knows that dushman ka tohfa uski talwaar se bhi zyaada qaatil hota hai, so why would he trust an unsolicited gift that could be a Trojan horse? It should set off alarm bells in his head.

Also, I am not so sure Alexander would be ok with having Taxila hand Porus over in this way because it would be underhanded and would go against his code of honor. The question is, would he be willing to temporarily abandon this code in order to get back at his wife? That would be unacceptable to him and to most of us, I'm sure. What about the thrill of capturing Porus himself, of overcoming this challenge through his own actions instead of relying on a soon-to-surrender king to do this for him? Would that not be against his personal ambitions? As was the case with his anger with Olympias for having eliminated Arrhidaeus from the competition for the throne through sneaky tactics, he would want to win fair and square on his own merit here too.

5) Inlieu, kapti means crooked, full of kapat, ie deviousness. Now Porus asserts that Alexander will extend a hand of friendship (to Takshashila) and then stab (Ambhiraj, one presumes) in the back. I fails to see on what basis he makes this statement.

Far from stabbing anyone in the back, Alexander is fiercly hostile to such underhand dealings, whether within his own family (Olympias and Arrihdaeus) or involving outsiders (Bessus and Darius) . There is no reason for him to abandon this code of conduct when he is in Bharat. It is Chanakya and Porus who are planning a completely devious deal.

Ugh, yeah. I hope Chanakya, upon meeting Alexander and understanding his code of conduct better, would realize the folly of thinking up such schemes and in fact end up doing something to get Taxila to surrender and betray Paurav Rashtra. I also hope he walks away with respect for Alexander and his capabilities.

6) Again, Puru now tells Chanakya that Alexander's main weapon is not spears or swords, but fear. This is of course part of Alexander's tactics, as he notes after the sacking of Thebes. But to state, as Puru does, that he defeated the Persian empire thru this fear is nonsense.

Yes, it is total nonsense. What else can we expect from Puru who likes to generalize everything? It is of course for the benefit of the audience that they are dumbing things down.

Darius was defeated by Alexander's superior military strategy tactics at Issus and Gaugamela, and the latter was one of the most brilliant of Alexander's victories from the tactical point of view.

Moreover, while he is in Persia, Puru is struck by the 18 foot Macedonian sarissa, seeing it as a superb weapon, and by the light armour that makes the Macedonian troops more mobile than others. He did not then talk of the fear factor as Alexander's most effective weapon!

No he didn't, did he? Puru must have known how big an army Darius had and that Alexander managed to defeat him with a much smaller one very decisively. He also knows that Darius had fled. Wasn't he listening to Alexander reading out Darius' letter and then dictating his own?

7) Finally, my dear Taherav, that is not a CGI elephant. It is a real one. CGI is expensive, and a real elephant can be hired for much less, I would imagine!

But the comic aspect of that snippet is that Puru seems to have got this brainwave just then, and he plans to stud his army with elephants as if war elephants could be bought off the shelf in a department store. 😆Training them takes time and effort, and any such overnight induction of untrained elephants into Porus' army would be a sure shot recipe for disaster.

Yes! As I had said in a previous post:
It's not easy to tame elephants out of the blue, and war elephants need very special training in order to be effective. You can't just bring a wild animal and make it participate in the war, it will do you more harm than the enemies will

Incidentally, the 10th century Chozha emperor Rajaraja Chozha (Chola) was an expert in training war elephants.

Shyamala Aunty/Di

PS: After watching this Chanakya in action, I must say that no one can beat Manish Wadhwa's magisterial Chanakya in the 2012-13 Chandragupta Maurya. He sets the gold standard for
Chanakya on screen.

I have only watched a few scenes of that show but I completely agree that his was the best Chanakya.


Edited by inlieu - 7 years ago

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