The kind of fairy tale this world needs.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I know majority wont agree with me, and the perspective of walking out of a marriage is what Zara should be doing, leaving Kabeer and his chauvinistic mentality. She is not bound to change him, hell no one is bound to change anyone, but how easy is to walk out of a marriage in the real world?

Again i should clarify, in NO way am i supporting any kind of abuse, but what Zara faces is the story of 90% of young, smart, educated, independent girls irrespective of religion. The controlling and moral policing is not even done by maulvis or religious heads, hell its done by modern educated boys who flip a side after marriage, even done by people who apparently enter a love marriage.
WHY? Because thats how men are raised .. thats how men are conditioned to think. Whose fault it is? Yet to determine.

I used to watch Pya ko Ho Jaane Do on SONY, wonder if anyone watched that, it had a beautiful dialgue ..

"samaj ne ye tu seekh liya k beti ko independent kasie banana hai, lekin abi take ye nai seekha k apne betey ko aisi larki k sath rehna bhi sikhana hai .."

This world learnt how to make thier girls independent, but is yet to teach its boys how to live with a girl who has a mind of her own.

Whoever has a modern open minded husband is lucky but lets not forget the plight of the majority who put up with this abuse everyday.

Why cant television have a fairy tale where an orthodox man changes his views and accepts his strong independent wife?

No Kabeer is not a random chauvinistic pig whose abuse is romanticized with an excuse of some dark past, he is the menatlity of EVERY SINGLE MALE, his thinking and mentality is NOT justified, his abuse is NOT romanticised .. he doesnt have a deep dark secret, how sickening is this thought that he just believes women should stay inside the house! Damn!

If this show shouldnt be on TV i wonder what should be ..

If a married couple watching this show can identify themselves with that bedroom scene where it felt Kabeer would kill her, and realise how it looks from a third perspective and MAYBE make that husband tone his voice down, because for once abuse is NOT romanticised, there is no soft back ground score .. no hair following and duppata flowing.

Walking out of a marriage is not as easy as it seems, yes its should be the case but leave society, not everyone wants to start everything afresh .. so televison deserves a fairytale of a typical male, whose thinking doesn't have an excuse, to change and fall in love .. if it gives hope to even a single girl to make her marriage work its worth it, and if it gives a mirror to even single boy to tone his aggression down, its worth it.

PROUD TO STAN #ISHQSUBHANALLAH.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I just want to applause you for this post👏
I have exactly same thoughts and even tried to convey it through post but, couldn't write it better than you...

Ahhhmazing...
That's exactly what I was saying...in no way supporting kabir behavior but, that's exactly a real married life is and in particularly , a normal Muslim married couple.

At one point, we disgust at shows who have heroine falling on hero, multiple vamps, repeated tracks, only marriages, women cooking fully dressed and demand a realistic story ...and here, when we are getting one, we are demanding a romantic ,soft,happy couple who was just romance 24/7 ,forgets their perception by just a honeymoon.

Isa is a blessing on Indian TV right now..couples watching this can have realization what ate consequences of your single move and honestly, 90% of script happens in real world.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Agreee big Thank you, Cv waale for not romanticizing the abuse scene (i'm very thankful).
I don't want a 100% romance and lovey dovey scene lol... but still can't understand the "W" turn here.

Idon't feel like this is the Old Kabeer! This Kabeer don'twanna talk. He is more like "I'm the man and yu have to listen to me and Accept whatever i'm saying to you" just what i feel since Monday.
FEEL LIKE HE IS INSECURE!

(no offense)😳


Ps:Adnan yu are so Amazing... so talented... voice, expression . Hats off! Same to Eisha...

Edited: when i say old Kabeer i mean the patient man, the respectful man... where is he?
Edited by --Shona-- - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Bang on and my views exactly.
Walking out is the easiest thing in a marriage but it's also the most difficult thing to.do
It's about harmony.compromise affection and love that needs to be there

It's a show and not real.life and let's watch it.
Edited by spshastr - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Couldn't have said it better myself!...thank you for echoing my thoughts.Hats off to the CVs for daring to show such a real character in Kabeer.The morning after his marriage he had told Imran that men don't change,Zaara will change because women have to change. This shows his thought process and this is what we are seeing in practice now. We are all looking for the respectful,patient Kabeer but let's please remember that Zaara was not his wife back then. What a man is to me need not be what a man is to his wife. Husband-wife relationship is completely different from any other relationship because there is a lot of demand and expectation from both sides...he didn't manhandle her because what she thought didn't affect his life and more importantly, he wouldn't and couldn't be violent with a random woman! Kabeer is a typical man in a typical patriarchal society: he is not a bad man, he is not a rapist and therefore did not throw himself on his wife on the wedding night in the name of a husband's right, he is not an irresponsible man so he could not be normal with his wife going missing or was not okay with someone taking his wife away.

Kabeer is a good son and can be a good husband to many women in our society. But he is not a good husband to Zaara and he does not think Zaara is not a good wife to him. They are just incompatible. The manhandling that we are all so disturbed about is unfortunately not even considered as such by the larger segment of society. Unless there is slapping, beating, hair pulling involved, physical violence in not acknowledged. In ITV pushing pulling women against cars,walls,holding hands tightly has been shown as romantic with thousands of girls going ga ga over it. Had this been shown as a romantic scene, it would have been believed as such. Let's applause the CVs for showing abuse, for showing anger, for showing a couple's fight as it is: scary, heart wrenching, unfair and blood-boiling.

This is exactly the kind of fairy tale the world needs right now, to show that change is possible, to give hope of not giving up or relenting. Zaara is love whereas Kabeer is our fathers, our brothers, our husbands and every other man we meet. They are not villains with horns, they are just as society brought then up to be and through Kabeer this show is striving to show that there is hope. If Kabeer can change, others should too.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Amazing post!
This is what I was going to post about today. Thank you for doing it. 👏👏
Agreed with each and every word.
Its not Kabir or his old traditional religious views but every men out there with the same thinking despite the religion, culture, creed or nationality. I just watched yesterday's episode and realised the whole point of Kabir's behaviour or ZaBir 's argument is Zara working out of the home. Kabir still cannot accept the fact that a woman can work out of the house also. And its predictable looking the way he is brought up. CVs are showing a typical male chauvinist and maybe will show how utimately with time he will change however thats a long road and Zara needs to give in a lot of effort.
I loved the dialogue you quoted! Never heard it before but its so true. And its just not with ZaBir but with every other household. The whole mentality of housework should be done only by girls is so wrong. 😡
ISA is trying to make a change. Instead of the typical show with saas bahu fights, unlimited vamps, its showing something realistic minus Ruksar . Proud to be a ISA viewer, thou at times I just want to kill myself. 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: attiya1.3

I just want to applause you for this post👏

I have exactly same thoughts and even tried to convey it through post but, couldn't write it better than you...

Ahhhmazing...
That's exactly what I was saying...in no way supporting kabir behavior but, that's exactly a real married life is and in particularly , a normal Muslim married couple.

At one point, we disgust at shows who have heroine falling on hero, multiple vamps, repeated tracks, only marriages, women cooking fully dressed and demand a realistic story ...and here, when we are getting one, we are demanding a romantic ,soft,happy couple who was just romance 24/7 ,forgets their perception by just a honeymoon.

Isa is a blessing on Indian TV right now..couples watching this can have realization what ate consequences of your single move and honestly, 90% of script happens in real world.



Thank you so much ! 😳

and yes i would see a story of a person whose abuse and rudeness is shown cruel instead of an excuse for his behaviour, i would love to see wrong portrayed as wrong rather than wrong painted as right.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: annjose1998

Agreed and well said!!!


Thank you! 😳
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Shona--

Agreee big Thank you, Cv waale for not romanticizing the abuse scene (i'm very thankful).

I don't want a 100% romance and lovey dovey scene lol... but still can't understand the "W" turn here.

Idon't feel like this is the Old Kabeer! This Kabeer don'twanna talk. He is more like "I'm the man and yu have to listen to me and Accept whatever i'm saying to you" just what i feel since Monday.
FEEL LIKE HE IS INSECURE!

(no offense)😳


Ps:Adnan yu are so Amazing... so talented... voice, expression . Hats off! Same to Eisha...

Edited: when i say old Kabeer i mean the patient man, the respectful man... where is he?


The old patient Kabeer is still there, he just feels he doesnt need that to be with his wife anymore! Horrible it is , but at the same time story of every home as well !! I am sure we will gte him back better than ever! 😳
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: spshastr

Bang on and my views exactly.

Walking out is the easiest thing in a marriage but it's also the most difficult thing to.do
It's about harmony.compromise affection and love that needs to be there

It's a show and not real.life and let's watch it.


For me the show is real life, 90% of males are like this and 90% of women put up with this crap .. the first step of making a wrong right is showing it as a wrong .. which for me ISA has done, its has taken this bold step of painting its male lead downright regressive and orthodox and now even a bit hypocrite who has different standards for his wife which doesnt sit well with the online modern audience .. but its making a point and they deserve my chance ! !

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