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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Himani128


Loved your explaination.

Mowgli was angry on avni too when he came to know know that she is his mother.
He was angry and sad on her to that extent that he left the house.

But when avni explained him the situation he understood her not just bcoz he believed her words but bcoz he saw how other children are and how they would feel if Mowgli was given a special treatment. So he immediately forgave her and also he is being the part of her plan i.e. not to reveal that avni is his mom in front of other children.

But when it comes to Neil he can't believe it since what he is seeing and listening doesn't match.

His mother is saying that his father is a good person. But what he saw is his father asking his mother to get out of his house along with her son.

And what he sees is Neil always fought with avni and made her cry.

Mowgli understood that even Neil found out that he has a son but instead of being happy with Mowgli, Neil asked his mom and him to go away from his life and got engaged.

We all protected that Neil should have gone with engagement with neutral perspective . Mowgli is the son. He definitely has more expectations from his father

For any child it is impossible to erase that from mind.on top of it , how is Mowgli supposed to react with mitali when he knows that this lady is gonna take his mother's place in his father's life.

Mowgli will definitely understand if words and actions sink with each other.

In his mother's case they sinked well. But in his father's case it doesn't.

Mowgli is a small kid to understand these complications in his parents life. But he is not that small that he can't understand what is going around him.


Sorry for barging in, but I have a question for you if you don't mind.

Is there a right age when a kid actually fully understands the reasons of his/her parents' failed marriage? Oftentimes even kids who are teenagers go through a very bad phase following their parents separation.

As you correctly pointed out Neil clearly isn't thinking about Mowgli's needs or his frame of mind. In such case, wouldn't it be ideal for Avni to at least clear the child's doubts. As a mother and as the only parent with whom the child feels any connection right now, isn't she the ideal person??

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sanleema

Before I even start the post, I would like to make it perfectly clear this isn't about Avni or Neil and I'm definitely not taking sides. This post is completely based on the custody battle of a child, whose parents have put him in the middle in their tug of war.

At this point in time, I don't think both Avni and Neil are thinking about Mowgli. Both are being selfish, failing to recognize the damage this is all doing to the kid.

Neil - apart from the fact that I haven't seen any evidence of love for his son since his truth came out and his quest to seek justice (I feel revenge is too strong a word) for the supposed injustice caused by Avni to him, he isn't thinking about the kid even as a person. Anyone, even a stranger wouldn't react like the way Neil reacted yesterday to a kid when they come to your house for the first time, even if the kid is wrong. Here, he clearly believed the Superman tag is a given reason to gain the love of his son, when he hasn't even attempted to try to understand the state of mind of his son or at least address him as such until now. The very first thing the kid heard from his father is to leave the house, which is embedded in the kid's heart and mind. Even if neil does gain custody, it isn't going to be easy to make a place in his son's heart. They say the way to a man's heart is through his stomach, but the way to a kid's heart is not through toys or chocolates, but through the respect you show the parent they love, irrespective of mom or dad. Boys always feel a sense of responsibility to protect their mothers, just like daughters feel for their fathers. Unless Neil learns to respect Mowgli's mom, the path to his son's heart is going to remain closed.

Now coming to Avni, at this point in time Avni definitely has the goodwill of Mowgli in her heart more than Neil, nobody can argue with that, but she isn't being completely selfless too for me. The questions she put forth before Neil today wasn't fair, given the fact that she hid the truth of their son. Accepted Mowgli needs his mother right now more, but isn't Avni using him too bcoz at this point in time in her life he is the only reminder of Neil that she has left. I'm definitely not questioning a mother's love, but as of now Mowgli is hurt that his father didn't want him. The moment he came to know his Superman is his father, he was so excited to meet him when he heard Neil shouting. This is what has led to his reaction afterwards to everything. Obviously he's hurt and feels his father wasn't as thrilled to know about him. Now what bothers me is that so far Avni hasn't done anything to relieve his pain. Sure she has made sure Mowgli knows Neil loves him too, but she still hasn't said anything as to why his father is upset with his mom or the cause of his outburst that day, if not for anything else at least to ease his pain. One could argue that he is too young to know the details and yes he is, but does she want her son to hate his father. Didn't she herself yearn for her father's love and support all her childhood. So why would she be okay with her own son bearing the same fate. I know the show isn't going to be there for a long time, but still hypothetically what if tomorrow or even after she wins the custody her son ends up learning the truth about why his father hates his mom, wouldn't her own son question her or even feel betrayed? Even with all the best upbringing she might give him, wouldn't Avni want her son to know his father or is she planning to move elsewhere once Neil gets remarried. This is why I felt Avni too wasn't fully being fair to her son.

At this time, they want to win him, but neither Neil is thinking about the psychological damage to the kid at present, nor Avni about the longterm effect it might cause on her son. So, unless they don't completely figure out what is best for Mowgli and Mowgli alone first, I feel neither of them should get his custody.

Avni has told Mowgli that Neil is a good person a few times and she explained to Mowgli that Neil didn't mean it when he threw them out of the house...so Avni is trying with her son..Neil needs to control his mouth ..he talks tooo much and says hurtful things that he does not really mean ...he does it all the time ..then he regrets it,.but he'll understand this soon enough and apologise to Mowgli..remember he always does this to Avni ...he will tell her that he never wants to see her again but will be in her house within a few hours ...so Avni knows Neil is like this but deep down he's a good person ..
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@sanleema
From my pov, avni explained why she hid that she is his mother which is understood by Mowgli in his language.

She didn't say him that if people come to know that avni is his mother there was a threat to his life. Which can make Mowgli scared.

Mowgli understood bcoz he knows how it feels when u are an orphan so he accepted his mother and has secret mumma talks.

When ever Mowgli asked avni about his father avni always said that he is a super hero. By which Mowgli had an impression that his father will treat him and his mother well.

But when reality hit him he saw his father asking his mother to get out taking him along. Which was definitely not what Mowgli expected.

Though avni is explaining him he is not ready to listen until he sees it.

Seeing and listening makes a difference.

And Mowgli couldn't match his father's behaviour from what his mother told bcoz avni told that his father is a good man and a super hero.

Now Mowgli has completely different thoughts about Neil which even avni can't clarify by explaining.

Only Neil can remove the misconceptions which his son has on him that too by changing his behaviour with Mowgli.

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