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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: AgnesFan

That was what I mentioned . I honestly dunno how to take that . Maybe I'm so done with his recent version that I can't take this in a good way . Sorry yet again . I agree easier said than done coz we never went through what is going on with Avni and Neil . But whatever they are doing is definitely gonna make child's life a wreck . I have seen it when my uncle and aunt divorced . And I genuinely agree adults fight are no good . They turn nasty as ego comes in between .


I would wish to appreciate the writers for having done this to the show . They have made fans to fight who is right and who is wrong trying to find justification when they don't care to give any kind of explanation for actions of characters .


Yes, the biggest fault is of the writers, if at all they had to show something this complicated, they should at least make it a point to clarify every action of the characters with their crystal clear words so that people don't have to assume it by themselves.
Nobody here actually wants to justify any character or create any fan wars. The only thing is, it hurts all of us to see our favourite characters behaving so odd n to make peace with our breaking hearts, we try to see as much good in them as we can n it appears like we r justifying them n those who don't feel the same for the same character get offended n put their views n it looks like fan wars, actually it is not. We all are not even in an emotional state to create any fights. Abhi tak utne besharam behaya Nahi hue hain hum, our show still has something better to discuss than bashing someone everyday because we have nothing more to discuss about😆 the only thing is, we have to find better things to discuss. Like, nobody discussed that they played that wonderful song for choti n badi Avni scene that we always wanted to play n that was apt for the situation, that chhoti Avni finally gave a correct advice...no, we all were busy bashing Neil left right n centre! That was point, that's it!
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: IFLove


Yes, the biggest fault is of the writers, if at all they had to show something this complicated, they should at least make it a point to clarify every action of the characters with their crystal clear words so that people don't have to assume it by themselves.
Nobody here actually wants to justify any character or create any fan wars. The only thing is, it hurts all of us to see our favourite characters behaving so odd n to make peace with our breaking hearts, we try to see as much good in them as we can n it appears like we r justifying them n those who don't feel the same for the same character get offended n put their views n it looks like fan wars, actually it is not. We all are not even in an emotional state to create any fights. Abhi tak utne besharam behaya Nahi hue hain hum, our show still has something better to discuss than bashing someone everyday because we have nothing more to discuss about😆 the only thing is, we have to find better things to discuss. Like, nobody discussed that they played that wonderful song for choti n badi Avni scene that we always wanted to play n that was apt for the situation, that chhoti Avni finally gave a correct advice...no, we all were busy bashing Neil left right n centre! That was point, that's it!

Exactly yar ! I feel so low after venting out my anger on any of the character and assume that I lack understanding what others have . Coming to discussing good things , negativity is so much in episode that it overrides small portions of good scenes .

Choti Avni really gave a good advice that she is seeing only herself and not Mowgli /Neil and Neil is justified in his anger except that najayaz part . For heavens sake Mowgli is very legitimate kid from their marriage and they are getting only divorced .Neil didn't abandon Avni .
Divorce battle between couples are nightmare . My cousin attempted suicide many times and is a school dropout . He has almost shut out fromeveryoneo
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I know all ur reasons were up to the point but what to do if we feel kind of attached with a couple.
However much we try to reason and justify but as an ardent avneil fan I am just unable to see them with anyone else. This is what I hate the most in ITV that they show imaginary separation a lot more than needed and this is what attracted me to this story as in this one we are really seeing a normal couple. Earlier the separation was there but we could tell that this was their plan to put medicine on our would. I know it was Avni's mistake to leave Neil and to push him away instead of justifying why she did what she did. Neil has all the right to move on in life rather than being stick to his former love but still want will we do if it is quite impossible to digest what is in our plate. I hope u understand my pov as many of us in this forum is avneil shipper and they are finding it hard to digest the current scenario. If avni did wrong we were not justifying her and right now Neil is doing wrong than we will not justify him either.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: AgnesFan

Exactly yar ! I feel so low after venting out my anger on any of the character and assume that I lack understanding what others have . Coming to discussing good things , negativity is so much in episode that it overrides small portions of good scenes .

Choti Avni really gave a good advice that she is seeing only herself and not Mowgli /Neil and Neil is justified in his anger except that najayaz part . For heavens sake Mowgli is very legitimate kid from their marriage and they are getting only divorced .Neil didn't abandon Avni .
Divorce battle between couples are nightmare . My cousin attempted suicide many times and is a school dropout . He has almost shut out fromeveryoneo


Honestly, that najayaz part cracked me up😆 CVS have really lost it. They r so obsessed with this word najayaz, they themselves don't understand how they use it. They always use it interchangeably with orphan. In Mowgli's case, he is not even orphan, let alone najayaz. So their poor attempts to stick to their theme now makes me laugh rather than annoy!😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweetunidhi.445

I know all ur reasons were up to the point but what to do if we feel kind of attached with a couple.

However much we try to reason and justify but as an ardent avneil fan I am just unable to see them with anyone else. This is what I hate the most in ITV that they show imaginary separation a lot more than needed and this is what attracted me to this story as in this one we are really seeing a normal couple. Earlier the separation was there but we could tell that this was their plan to put medicine on our would. I know it was Avni's mistake to leave Neil and to push him away instead of justifying why she did what she did. Neil has all the right to move on in life rather than being stick to his former love but still want will we do if it is quite impossible to digest what is in our plate. I hope u understand my pov as many of us in this forum is avneil shipper and they are finding it hard to digest the current scenario. If avni did wrong we were not justifying her and right now Neil is doing wrong than we will not justify him either.


Dear I totally get u n all others in this forum too. I m not n I do not expect people to justify Neil for what wrong he has done. Their prolonged separation is hurting me too.
I'll tell u how I ended up writing this post. After watching this episode, I came to the forum to cry just like u all...n the words that were in my mind were "RIP Neil Khanna", believe me or not. But then I read several posts n comments here before posting my views. When I read Avni's upbringing being questioned, I felt its not right. When I read Neil being called cheap, only the word "cheap" hurt me, not the reasons behind it. But when I was writing my comment why he should not be called cheap, I happened to think practically. I tried to analyse y people r calling him cheap. In my very first comment, I said the same thing...that he was wrong with everything he did today, but please don't call him cheap...that was my emotional demand for my favourite character Neil. But later people gave reasons to y they say what they say. N when I was calmed down by then, after reading every reasoning, I had a question..."did he really?" N hence I wrote this post. What I think is, we react to every episode very impulsively. Forum is not gonna b shut down in an hour after episode nor we r getting any prize for commenting first. Just refrain urself from commenting right after the episode, u'll not realise what u r saying in the heat of the moment...just like how Neil is not realising. When he is alone n thinks, he does feel guilty for his words. The same way, we should also watch the episode, sit back, calm down, think n then react...maybe we'll react better? If right from 6:30 we start cribbing n everyone's comments only put oil in the burning fire, the fire will never cease to exist. So first extinguish Ur own fire n then come here to give Ur views, maybe that can put water on others fire too? If not, the fire will at least not spread like a wildfire because of u? The forum is meant to vent out Ur frustration n rant...but we must take ensure we r not going overboard with our rants. I know everybody loves AvNeil here, n that's y it hurts me to see the same AvNeil lovers calling them names now. I don't want anybody to blindly fangirl AvNeil, but at least watch Ur language when u talk about the same couple u claim to love? There is no AvNeil without Avni or Neil...so just respect...both of them! That's the least I m demanding after yesterday's episode.
N about separation n third angles, this is how ITV works, don't we know? Naamkaran was different...but we can't deny every show is sensible in its first year of run, later it slips off the track. Same is the case with Naamkaran. Raman bhalla, to whom Neil Khanna is being compared with now, too was not this kind of a person in the first two years of the show, he too never insulted ishita or thought about anybody else until their first separation n the leap...the man who completely hated her when he married her. The point is, every show is good in its first year of run, n just because it was good, we can not expect it to be the same forever. So going by the trend, let's be ready to see our characters changing too n watch whatever we get, or else stop watching if we can't. My yhm experience has certainly taught me this much.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: cutepigs

I agree with everything you say, except for just one tiny detail... Yes, no one wants Avni and Neil to reunite for Mowgli, and yes, everyone had a problem with the engagement, but the reason isn't that he shouldn't have done it over Mowgli's truth, at least not for me, the reason is that he didn't once try to go behind Mowgli to even just hug him once, in fact he told Avni to take her son and get lost, and over it, has now also lodged a custody battle against her for a son he only told Avni to take and leave... I understand that Neil is doing everything in anger, then how does the cake and champagne justify it? Didn't he behave at that time like he didn't care about finding out 10 mins ago that he has a son? That's what makes the engagement so dirty for me, the lack of emotion from Neil's side between his heartbreak of Mowgli's truth and then the sudden custody case..

Sorry if I offended anyone...


As I said in the last to last episodes threads also, Neil never asked Avni to leave with Mowgli. He asked only her to leave. He said, tum hamesha yahi toh Karti ho, bhaag jaati ho, ab bhi bhaag jaogi, Mowgli KO b Apne Sath le jaogi...toh jao. Later when Mowgli came to meet him n he was going to hug him just when Avni literally snatched him away again. How would he go behind him to hug him? N that itself is the reason he has taken up this custody battle because he wants to live with his son. The day he says he filed custody to spite Avni, I'll rest my case.
N then he went ahead with the engagement after already considering the thought of Mowgli...that is bringing him to the family legally. That's another question if Mowgli will want to or not, but Neil gave a thought about his son. Everybody knows he wasn't happy but pretending to be happy during engagement...but if he has taken a decision, y should he not try to be happy about it?

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