My 2 cents on today's episode and the following outrage

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Posted: 7 years ago
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After watching the episode at 6 pm n calming myself down now for 3 hours, I have decided to write this with a very practical and unbiased mind after reading all the outrage in the forum in various forms. Certain disclaimers before I write this-
1. I m not Avni fan or Neil fan but AvNeil fan.
2. If I love Neil, that doesn't mean I necessarily hate Avni.
3. I have never "bashed" Avni as such and hence I have a right not to bash Neil as well. This is to say that I m not being partial towards him alone.
4. I did not like whatever Neil has done today and I m not justifying that at all. Even then, I have to address all the issues that are being raised by the people here.
5. And this post is not to offend anybody, these are strictly my thoughts only, feel free to disagree

AVNI IS NO NEELAMA AND NEIL IS NO ASHISH MEHTA
Idk from where this issue has popped up now! At the moment, there is nothing that needs to be compared between Avni and Neela. Avni has failed as a mother only because she separated her son from his father. She has not failed in bringing him up in a good boy. She has always been fair with him, she loved him when it was required, scolded him when that was required, she has not over-pampered him, she has always taught him to adjust with the conditions, she has made him empathetic, going by the olv, she has taught him self-defense n to be strong. Even after all these issues between her n Neil, today she scolded him when he said he hates his father. What else is she expected to do for raising her child? Isn't this all that Neela to has taught Avni? Then why this question now? She was totally wrong with over-pampering Saesha and we know the result, but in Mowgli's case, she has not failed at all except for keeping him away from his dad.
N Neil is worse than Ashish Mehta? R u kidding me? How can these two be even compared? Ayesha didn't leave Ashish...then why would he stop loving her or why would he revenge her? Nothing happened in their case that could reduce his love for her. It were only the circumstances that separated him from her n loving her till the last breath was the least that spineless man should have done. Is this the case with Neil? Is Avni completely innocent? Isn't Avni's mistake the root cause of whatever is happening right now? (I do not blame her for the decision she took 10 years ago, but for still keeping quite n pushing Neil away). Though unreasonable, but Neil has a reason to hate Avni, to move on. So the comparison between Neil and Ashish Mehta is completely unjust and baseless.

NEIL'S DECISION TO GET REMARRIED
Did Neil decide to leave his "one woman man" tag by his own wish? Even till their last confrontation, didn't he stick to his point that he wouldn't move on even if he had to stay alone forever, because he had Avni's fond memories to live with? He stuck to this until Avni broke the mangalsutra. He proposed Mitali because Avni wanted him to. And this is not my justification, these are his own words! Mitali already wanted him to marry her. He, though unwillingly, decided to marry her n he would have been loyal towards her. Wasn't it the same case with Rhea? He didn't love her, he loved Juhi, yet he always tried to be as loyal n committed to her as he could be. Same would happen with Mitali too.

IS NEIL USING MITALI?
Did he force her to marry him? No. Did he decide to marry her after getting that vengeance for Avni? No, he had already committed her. Did Mitali refuse to marry him even once? Never. Is he marrying her to spite Avni? No. He is marrying her because now he reasonably believes that he only got pain in return of his love for Avni n he feels Mitali can give him the happiness. Did he even once say that he loves Mitali? No, he is only trusting her love for him n believes that will keep him happy. Does that mean he is using her? I don't think so.

AVNI AND MOWGLI ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ISSUES FOR NEIL
This is the first thing that we all need to understand right now. Wasn't it the very reason for we didn't want their child at this stage that they would reconcile for that kid n not for themselves? Then why does it annoys us that Neil still went ahead with his engagement even after learning about his son? There are tons of misunderstandings between AvNeil, he hates her, she wants him to move on from her n due to all these reasons, he had decided to leave Avni n get married to Mitali. Then why should Mowgli's truth change this? Aren't there divorced couples who love their kids but still can't come together even for their sake? Didn't we exactly dread this compromise? Neil has not refused to bear his responsibility as a father, he is ready to raise Mowgli, but for that, he doesn't need to accept Avni as well. This is not buy one get one free offer. He should accept Avni as his wife only after they sort out their issues. It is easy for us to say that the couple should put their children above themselves and take decisions for their happiness, but is that really that easy to implement? We can not expect Neil to behave the way he would have behaved 10 years ago.

MOWGLI'S CUSTODY CASE
Neil is completely wrong in rushing this custody case n not thinking about that kid's happiness or comfort. But does that mean he is using him against Avni? No. He wants his custody, because he wants to live with his son, not because he wants to give Avni the pain. As a father, is he wrong to wish to spend his time with his son when he has already lost 9 years of his life?

"SPITING" AVNI?
First let us learn the meaning of spiting. Google says - deliberately hurt, annoy, or offend (someone). Did he do anything out of this to Avni? Was anything deliberte? He told Mitali today "Main tumse shaadi karna chahta hoon kyuki mujhe yaqeen hai tum mujhe khush rakhogi." Did he say...main tumse shaadi karna chahta hoon kyuki main Avni ko dikhana chahta hoon k main tumhare sath khush reh sakta hoon? A BIG NO! No matter if what he believes currently is right or wrong, he is doing everything for what he believes, not to show anything to anyone. Yesterday he told Mitali that we'll show Avni that she can't break us. Did that mean he wanted to get engaged to Mitali to show Avni? No, it meant that he was under an impression that Avni came there to break his engagement n he only wanted to not let that happen. He wanted to be firm on the decision that he had already taken. I don't think its called spiting. I don't think we can still count him as one of the typical male leads because he isn't using the new girl to spite his wife...n the multiple marriages is not his usual business yet.

AVNI DESERVES SOMEONE BETTER THAN NEIL, NEIL DESERVES SOMEONE BETTER THAN AVNI?
Those who say this, better don't call urself AvNeil fans and stop watching this show. Until yesterday, it was Avni who didn't deserve Neil and now its Neil who doesn't deserve Avni. Why? Has anybody of them cheated on the other? Whatever they are doing, its all on their face. Till the day Neil was not ready to marry Mitali n Shweta would want him to marry her just to see him happy, each one of us said here that he doesn't necessarily need someone else if he has to move on from Avni, he can live alone too. Now why should Avni "deserve a better love interest"? Can't she live alone too? Neil is ready to move on, that doesn't mean she should be ready too. If ever she needs another man, she look for one. As of now, if she is happy with Neil's memories n her love for him, why should she get "someone better"? Also, why should Neil not move on? Is it a rule that "a perfect man" can love only once in his lifetime? Why didn't we find it wrong when the same "perfect man" fell in love with Avni forgetting his first love Juhi? Wasn't he cheap back then? Didn't he lose the tag of "One woman man" then? Marriage is no tag to prove ur loyalty towards ur love, as per what all are thinking, he even betrayed Juhi when he fell in love with Avni. So legally leaving Avni, his wife, n specially for her own wish, doesn't make him cheap. If u are separated from ur partner, u have two choices, either stay with the memories of ur love forever or find ur happiness in someone else...and mind u, none of these is wrong. Just because AvNeil are the leads of this show, we ship them, we love them together...doesn't mean we can judge them and call them names if they behave otherwise, legally and morally! Don't insult all those people in the real world, who take divorce by mutual consent for no wrong reasons and move on in their life, by calling Neil cheap! There are mountains of issues between AvNeil, let them solve those and get back together, until then, please don't tag any of them as undeserving of the other. Nobody can understand n handle this stubborn and messed up Avni better than the composed Neil and nobody can love Neil as selflessly as Avni and this ego trip and certain wrong decisions CAN NOT CHANGE THIS FACT.

Both Avni and Neil have done their share of mistakes. If Avni made a mistake by leaving Neil, Neil too has done a mistake by not listening to her. If Neil has done a mistake by not understanding her motives, Avni too has done a mistake by not explaining herself and pacifying Neil. If Avni has done a mistake by keeping their son away from him, Neil too has done a mistake by filing a custody case for him without thinking about the kid himself. And if Neil has stoop so low by getting engaged to Mitali, it was Avni's mistake too to push him away from herself everytime, disrespecting his feelings for her by breaking the mangalsutra, telling him always to marry Mitali.
Blame both of them for their mistakes as much as u want, but don't bash them unreasonably for what they haven't done. Don't abuse or name-call them, they are not the villains of this story for God's sake. Don't draw unnecessary comparisons. And don't judge them as the 10 years old AvNeil, circumstances do change people! Keep ur blames and sympathies for both, nobody deserves anything more or lesser.

I hope, this helps a few people at least, otherwise ya'll may disagree or ignore.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Just one question
When did Avni ask Neil to marry Mitali?
She broke the MS and asked Neil to move on in life
If Neil thinks that moving on in life means marrying another girl then Avni should not be blamed for his thinking. She might have been pushing Neil away from her but not towards another woman.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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"No one gets tired of loving, but everyone gets tired of waiting, assuming, hearing lies and hurting."

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Edited by Survival - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: -DragonFire-

Just one question

When did Avni ask Neil to marry Mitali?
She broke the MS and asked Neil to move on in life
If Neil thinks that moving on in life means marrying another girl then Avni should not be blamed for his thinking. She might have been pushing Neil away from her but not towards another woman.


Dragon Avni may not have said it but seeing Mitali propose Neil and Shweta wanting the same n the only girl around n wanting Neil to have a nice girl she somewhere did which was really not her call

Agree moving on doesn't mean jumping into another relationship but find another purpose in life
Edited by sps0114 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: -DragonFire-

Just one question

When did Avni ask Neil to marry Mitali?
She broke the MS and asked Neil to move on in life
If Neil thinks that moving on in life means marrying another girl then Avni should not be blamed for his thinking. She might have been pushing Neil away from her but not towards another woman.




Not to defend anyone but didn't she say in the hotel room that if Mithali told her she is interested in Neil or wanted Neil or something on these lines, she would have moved away from her way and Avni said that in front of Neil and he even got affected and it refuted whatever she said before when he asked her that she would have wished for him saying yes to Mithali and she said main aisa bilkul nahi chahti, so isn't she contradicting her ownself in front of him

And what does it mean exactly when she asks another woman (Mithali) to fight for the love of her husband!

I know Avni never really wanted him to move on with another woman but she showed that she has no problem if he does so in front of him once and in front of Mithali another one

So if we will call a spade a spade then let's get all the facts right
Edited by Survival - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: -DragonFire-

Just one question

When did Avni ask Neil to marry Mitali?
She broke the MS and asked Neil to move on in life
If Neil thinks that moving on in life means marrying another girl then Avni should not be blamed for his thinking. She might have been pushing Neil away from her but not towards another woman.


What did she mean when she said to Mitali, tum mujhe bolti toh main khud tumhare raste se hatt jaati? What did she mean when she told Mitali thousand times that she should keep trying for Neil? What else should he believe when Mitali told Avni was happy about their marriage decision?

N even if we forget this all, even if Avni didn't ask him to marry Mitali, tell me why he should not? Right now he needs to be loved the most. If he gets only pain in return of his love from Avni and if he believes that he gets all the love n happiness from Mitali, y should he not move on with her? If ur wife has left u n hence u decide to marry some other lady, does that make u cheap? I say his decision is wrong because he is not in a state to understand his own feelings, we understand this, but is he in a state to think all this? For him, his belief is correct and hence he is moving on with Mitali. I can not call him cheap or undeserving for not being able to understand his own feelings due to all the pain n anger, I would have surely called him cheap if he would have used Mitali with full awareness only to spite Avni.

As I said already, I do not support Neil's actions n I don't mind at all if anybody blames him for that. My whole problem is with people going overboard with their nasty comments n awful words for him for his decision of second marriage after legally divorcing his first wife, assuming it to be spiting n taking revenge from Avni...because actually, he is not doing anything to destroy Avni but only to get what he rightfully deserves, only in the process if Avni gets hurt, he isn't bothered.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Survival




Not to defend anyone but didn't she say in the hotel room that if Mithali told her she is interested in Neil or wanted Neil or something on these lines, she would have moved away from her way and Avni said that in front of Neil and he even got affected and it refuted whatever she said before when he asked her that she would have wished for him saying yes to Mithali and she said main aisa bilkul nahi chahti, so isn't she contradicting her ownself in front of him

And what does it mean exactly when she asks another woman (Mithali) to fight for the love of her husband!

I know Avni never really wanted him to move on with another woman but she showed that she has no problem if he does so in front of him once and in front of Mithali another one

So if we will call a spade a spade then let's get all the facts right

Whatever Avni said it was all to Mitali and not Neil
Avni was wrong when she gave false assurances to Mitali that Neil will love her but did Avni ever tried to convince Neil that Mitali is the right girl for him?
Or did she held Neil at gunpoint to get married to Mitali?
If Neil wants to marry someone than it is his choice but for that he need not make an excuse that Avni wanted him to marry and that is why he is under some pressure to marry Mitali
Edited by -DragonFire- - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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In real world if ur deprived of love all the time and someone is pushing u away from them and there is another person who is supporting u always u will choose the other person even though u may not love the other person this is human behaviour
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Wonder if for Avni love is only sacrificing n letting go of her wishes n feelings? Why does she not fight for her love for Neil by making an effort to talk to him or just hug to calm him down even if he rejects her actions why does she stop making effort till he starts to listen...

She wants to hold on to Mowgli as her only nishaani of her love for Neil but she is not making effort to work with Neil n chose the easy way out in asking him to move on...this is what beats me coz she asked Ayesha to stand up for her love n relationship n kid why is she not



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Posted: 7 years ago
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While we blame Neil for speaking anything behaving unreasonable under the spell of anger, let's make sure that even we do not do the same due to our anger about Neil's actions!

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