I have had it with Avni

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I can't understand Avni's character anymore.
Her words are so much with hypocrisy.
Se is so confused about her own identity; how does she think she is helping these kids.

For her the most important is Saisha and all these kids and sukoon house.
She actually herself has not gotten over her illegitimacy herself and can't accept having a family like khannas in her life.

Khanna family want her in their life more than she wants them in her life.

her focus is saisha and sukoon house.
Neil is right. She left him and family and created a life for herself.
Why is she raising her hand on Saisha?

and what is this comment that she loves saisha more than her own child.
What kind of insult is that to Neil's love.
He should not lead a normal life and have his own kids.

And she keeps repeating that she would not love her child as much as Saisha, so it is immaterial that she does not have a child with Neil.
In general anyone would feel ecstatic if they had a child with the love of their lives and would love that the most.

OMG. What kind of character CVs have made Avni.
Yes CVs should stop wasting their time on Saisha because they need to think hard what they are trying to show with Avni's character. They need to focus and sort that out more than anything else.

For me Saisha will not make me disillusioned with Nk but the lead character Avni will certainly do that.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Inconsistencies in Avni's statements
1) She herself was adopted by Neela but she herself is against adoption. What is wrong in adopting an orphan/illegitmate child and giving them a name and life?

2) Named Saisha after Ayesha ma. where is the due respect to Neela ma?
Ayesha in fact ruined Avni's life by her actions whereas Neela gave her life and love unconditionally

3) Still remembers Ayesha ma more than Neela. Her thought process revolves around the negativity of Ayesha's life but not the positivity that was brought by Neela.

4) Sometimes avni says that hiding for 10 years was just for Neil and then another time she says she did it for Saisha

5) She was hiding away from khanna family because vidyut was punished for killing her.
Now it is everywhere that Avni is alive.
So now why is she not staying back for the Khannas? It does not matter anymore that she hides in kashid.
Bebe and Shweta are right.
And now she is not worried that Vidyut will come out? and what will happen to Neil and the Khannas happiness.

6) How can she love Saisha more than her own child? she never had a child of hers and Neil.
And what kind of a statement is this. People can love a biological child and adopted child equally but more than own child when she never had her own?

7) What does Sunehari mean thats he could have stayed back with khannas and led a normal life? but she sacrificed her life for Saisha.

Am i missing something here or the CVs have no clue about the entire plot.





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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: delhigirl

Inconsistencies in Avni's statements

1) She herself was adopted by Neela but she herself is against adoption. What is wrong in adopting an orphan/illegitmate child and giving them a name and life?

2) Named Saisha after Ayesha ma. where is the due respect to Neela ma?
Ayesha in fact ruined Avni's life by her actions whereas Neela gave her life and love unconditionally

3) Still remembers Ayesha ma more than Neela. Her thought process revolves around the negativity of Ayesha's life but not the positivity that was brought by Neela.

4) Sometimes avni says that hiding for 10 years was just for Neil and then another time she says she did it for Saisha

5) She was hiding away from khanna family because vidyut was punished for killing her.
Now it is everywhere that Avni is alive.
So now why is she not staying back for the Khannas? It does not matter anymore that she hides in kashid.
Bebe and Shweta are right.
And now she is not worried that Vidyut will come out? and what will happen to Neil and the Khannas happiness.

6) How can she love Saisha more than her own child? she never had a child of hers and Neil.
And what kind of a statement is this. People can love a biological child and adopted child equally but more than own child when she never had her own?

7) What does Sunehari mean thats he could have stayed back with khannas and led a normal life? but she sacrificed her life for Saisha.

Am i missing something here or the CVs have no clue about the entire plot.



Avni was 12, hence a minor when adopted by Neela. Saesha is a 18 year old adult who claims she is mature enough to get married and understand love, yet is throwing a strop for adoption only so that she can marry a guy she supposedly fell in love with a few days ago. So why should avni accept her demand of adoption just so she can marry young to a guy who avni can see isn't right for her? If she is in fact mature and an adult, why does she feel the need to be adopted at legal adult age to get what she wants? In this entire track, avni is right only on this issue.
Edited by sammy17 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Both Agree and disagree with your points.
1. Yes it's cringeworthy to hear Avni say that she loves her more than her own child. It's sort of insulting to Neil and future pillu if it happens...but then our writers are OTT sometimes...they want to show the attachment Avni has with saesha because she can relate to the troubled vhildhood and she wants to be a neelama like figure to them. But it didn't warrant such dialogues that too twice!
2. The only bright spot or consolation is that the first time she said tum sab main meri Jaan basti hai...so all the kids were equal to her
3. I think Avni is cognizant of the fact that she has not been able to break free of the tag of illegitimacy herself but she has these deep rooted fears and insecurities which never got a chance to heal despite having Neil n neelama...prolly because the situation never was fully normal. And although it's frustrating to watch her go back to the nsjayaz label it's actually very tough to truly break free of shackles after seeing a troubled childhood...it scars you and haunts you forever. And in avni's case she knows that she's damaged but she's trying to help a few kids not feel like she did. It's tough to practice what you preach!
4. What I do agree with is that the duration of the leap is definitely creating the most problem because even if we give Avni leeway for her actions...staying away for 10 years from the man who you Love, who loves you unconditionally...that's crazy. That's what Neil is angry about too...he sorta sees her pov but he cant forget that she did not reach out to him, go back to him. And that's the area CVs have not figured out and so it's very hard to relate to Avni. But there's no option but to try and ignore it and focus on how they go from here...
5. Did Neela adopt Avni legally...coz I didn't watch the early episodes. Even if she did, I'm actually glad that Avni is taking a stand not to. Because gettingga surname honestly doesn't change kk or his mom's mentality which they have already displayed, and she's an adult, can't be adopted anyway! I'm happy she's only a guardian and not her parent
6. Sunheri stood up for Avni - I'm glad. Wish her dialogues were slightly better. I think what she meant was that Avni could have come back but she stayed firm on her resolve because she was concerned about everyone's safety. She did this even though she was longing to go back to Neil and her family. She killed her own dreams for what she perceived to be a greater good...but atleast she reprimanded girgit for being too rude and bratty
7. Avni's motives to leave didn't seem strong enough then...but we had to tolerate the track because CVs think only separation can bring drama. I wish Avni had discussed with Neil her plans...I wish she had atleast contacted him after pulling her stunts and vidyut going to jail...I wish the leap was only a year maybe instead of 10... unfortunately ye sab humaare CVs be socha hi nahi.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: sammy17

Avni was 12, hence a minor when adopted by Neela. Saesha is a 18 year old adult who claims she is mature enough to get married and understand love, yet is throwing a strop for adoption only so that she can marry a guy she supposedly fell in love with a few days ago. So why should avni accept her demand of adoption just so she can marry young to a guy who avni can see isn't right for her? If she is in fact mature and an adult, why does she feel the need to be adopted at legal adult age to get what she wants? In this entire track, avni is right only on this issue.


my point has got nothing to do with avni or sash's age in terms of adoption

it just has got to do with the concept of adoption and what that means for avni
if that is what Avni means that she does not want to adopt because saisha is 18 then she needs too specify that in her dialogues.

I don't think this is being even thought of in terms of age by CVs.
it as got to wth to concern of adoption or not for illegitimate children or orphans


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: neeraja91

Both Agree and disagree with your points.

1. Yes it's cringeworthy to hear Avni say that she loves her more than her own child. It's sort of insulting to Neil and future pillu if it happens...but then our writers are OTT sometimes...they want to show the attachment Avni has with saesha because she can relate to the troubled vhildhood and she wants to be a neelama like figure to them. But it didn't warrant such dialogues that too twice!
2. The only bright spot or consolation is that the first time she said tum sab main meri Jaan basti hai...so all the kids were equal to her
3. I think Avni is cognizant of the fact that she has not been able to break free of the tag of illegitimacy herself but she has these deep rooted fears and insecurities which never got a chance to heal despite having Neil n neelama...prolly because the situation never was fully normal. And although it's frustrating to watch her go back to the nsjayaz label it's actually very tough to truly break free of shackles after seeing a troubled childhood...it scars you and haunts you forever. And in avni's case she knows that she's damaged but she's trying to help a few kids not feel like she did. It's tough to practice what you preach!
4. What I do agree with is that the duration of the leap is definitely creating the most problem because even if we give Avni leeway for her actions...staying away for 10 years from the man who you Love, who loves you unconditionally...that's crazy. That's what Neil is angry about too...he sorta sees her pov but he cant forget that she did not reach out to him, go back to him. And that's the area CVs have not figured out and so it's very hard to relate to Avni. But there's no option but to try and ignore it and focus on how they go from here...
5. Did Neela adopt Avni legally...coz I didn't watch the early episodes. Even if she did, I'm actually glad that Avni is taking a stand not to. Because gettingga surname honestly doesn't change kk or his mom's mentality which they have already displayed, and she's an adult, can't be adopted anyway! I'm happy she's only a guardian and not her parent
6. Sunheri stood up for Avni - I'm glad. Wish her dialogues were slightly better. I think what she meant was that Avni could have come back but she stayed firm on her resolve because she was concerned about everyone's safety. She did this even though she was longing to go back to Neil and her family. She killed her own dreams for what she perceived to be a greater good...but atleast she reprimanded girgit for being too rude and bratty
7. Avni's motives to leave didn't seem strong enough then...but we had to tolerate the track because CVs think only separation can bring drama. I wish Avni had discussed with Neil her plans...I wish she had atleast contacted him after pulling her stunts and vidyut going to jail...I wish the leap was only a year maybe instead of 10... unfortunately ye sab humaare CVs be socha hi nahi.


I think in one of the older episodes Neil as a police officer mentioned about ananya being adopted.
I can't remember which episode.


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Baba, our writers are not that invested with being clear in their dialogues. They mostly do a shoddy job which is why a few episodes stand out for good dialogues! If she were to adopt she should adopt them all or none of them. They are trying to make a point that we don't need to know a person's surname or give him one to make them fit in society. If a child doesn't have parents or doesn't have a father's name it means nothing...but the dialogue writing perhaps is not allowing those emotions to fully come through. Avni was clear to kk and in front of Khanna's what her issue was- if kk can't take a stand for the woman he claims to love and if he attached more importance to her name rather than the person she dies die approve of such a relationship as her guardian. She believes that saesha also will find a Neil and a family like Khanna's who will rise above societal prejudices and see her for the person she is and not what her name is.

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