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Posted: 7 years ago
#31
I have taken away something quite different from the episode tonight but to do so one has to step away from the two guys--- something that a lot of the young ones here have been unable to do😆
Rajan said Vyom must marry Sharanya for the happiness of the entire family yet he had an evil, smug look on his face when Vyom turned to leave the room.

The ending couplet today
Phir ek baar tu laut kar aaya hai, Zindagi pe teri Maut ka saaya hai

Chandni waiting for Sharanya's entry into the house so that Vyom and the family can be destroyed and she can get Rajan.

All of these plus Odhni's screeches about how He will kill anyone that comes close to Sharanya makes me think that all of this leads to Rajan.

Shiv was killed because of his closeness to Sharanya. Rajan is aware of that is probably responsible for it too and now he is desperate for Vyom to get close to Sharanya. Shiv knows that Vyom is being led to his own slaughter by his father-- zindagi pe teri maut ka saaya hai and is trying to save Vyom by distancing him from Sharanya.

About what you refer to as the creepy scene, I found it sad not creepy although I can see why a lot of you feel offended. The guy is in limbo, he can't feel or touch, he is but a spirit waiting in darkness for deliverance which will only come after his work on earth is done.
I didn't like that he tried to touch her while she slept but I will wait to hear his story before i judge him. Perhaps they were married or betrothed and he is in his rightful place beside her in bed.
If it were a real person cornering me or touching me without consent, I would file a written complaint with the authorities. About ghosts, I don't now they exist but if there is one nuzzling my neck as I write this, I sure hope he is as suave and dapper as Shiv😆 Just kidding!
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Posted: 7 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: .Lilith.


Well...I hope the episode has sufficiently cleared everyone's doubt regarding Shiv and his very awesome intentions. 👏

I felt like Vyom's presence in Sharanya's life was a big hindrance for Shiv, reason why he waited this long to strike. I really don't know what to say for tonight's episode since it had left me fuming and cringed on so many levels! 🤢

Let's not even start with the whole Shv-Sharanya scene in the end. I don't care about risking the wrath of fangirls, point is, for a girl who has been subjected to sexual harassment at various stages of her life even before she hit puberty, a scene like this is bound to create nothing but disgust for the character! 😡

No offence to Namik. He was doing his job. However, I swear, if I see him defending this particular scene, at least, I will lose all respect for him!

It cringed me so bad that I had to sing one of our puppies to sleep before calming down enough to write down this review- and I'M NOT KIDDING!

Done, with the rant, coming to the episode.

I don't want to sound smug because all my predictions were correct, but oh well, I guess I won't be able to help it either. 😛

Most of the predictions regarding Vyom, Rajan and Sharanya have been 100% accurate so far. I was right about Vyom becoming Rajan Bedi 2.0. I was right about Sharanya sacrificing her friendship with Vyom to save his life. I was also right about Rajan being an ass, but the kind you wanna root for. 😆

Regarding the scenes with VaNya and Rajan-Vyom- where do I start?

"Agar tumhe zid karna aata hain, toh mujhe zabardasti!" I was so mad at Vyom! And at the same time, I was floored with the sizzling chemistry!
I think Vyom was trying to say that when he was right next to her & when he knows how to handle everything, where was the necessity for Sharanya to seek answers from others like odhini etc? Vyom doesn't want her to go to Psychic or other mediums or unnecessary advice, which could scare her even more. He is more concerned about Sharanya's Health and Safety. On other hand, Sharanya wants to know what is happening exactly? She wants to know about the ghost image and who are responsible for Vyom/Sharanya's Life being in Danger ? Let's hope Vyom is a Good Boyfriend who is concerned about his GF/Fiancee.

Sharanya's angry puppy eyes and Vyom's sinfully intense eyes, coupled with that brief trapping her in-between himself and the car and then the final shot of him carrying her so easily on his shoulders.

^Now, you may as as to why I didn't find this problematic? It was problematic, no doubt, but it was definitely not cringeworthy. Sharanya was momentarily angry at him, she wasn't freaked out, she wasn't terrified out of her skin. And despite everything Vyom did to debar her from searching for questions from her past, she broke all ties with him for HIS safety. If that doesn't tell you about her subconscious physical acceptance and conscious mental acceptance of Vyom, I don't know what will.
Sharanya behaved rudely with Vyom because their Lives were in Danger, Vyom's Life was in Danger because of Sharanya.

I felt so, so bad for Sharanya tonight! My poor baby! 😭

She doesn't even have a genuine friend with whom she can confide her fears and expect to not be judged or shushed just because it doesn't correspond with theirs'. She wants to save Vyom's life, but at what cost? She's too naive if she thinks this will stop either Vyom or the ghost. Donal was wonderful in enacting her pain! 👏
I think Sharanya has to share with her Family, sit and talk. That way, her Fears will ease out. Here, Vikram did a Fantabulous Job in expressing his inner Pain and torture.

Rajan= what do I say about this man. Tere jaise baap ho toh tere bacchon ko dushmano ki kya zaroorat. 😆

A Father like Rajan in today's episode is a Best Gift that God can gift to anybody because he did not encourage/influence Vyom to leave nor hurt her. Instead when Vyom was broken, he handed over Guitar to Vyom and wanted Vyom to stick back his broken pieces of pain with Music & win back Sharanya's Love as Sharanya loves Vyom's Music ~Best Scene 👏

No wonder Vyom is turning out to be Rajan 2.0. Any parent in his/her right mind, in a situation like this will suggest his/her child to give their loved one some space, instead of being a Betal to their Vikram. 🤔

Although, I can't deny the cutesy of their scene, especially when they hugged and Rajan called him "Mera Baccha". Awww. 😳

"Collect the broken pieces of you heart, and make it into an art." Ok, that was one good saying. He should've followed it with- "And make sure to sell it so that you can stop being so jobless, gadhe!" 😆

Precap- Looks like Shiv has put Shanny into an enchanted sleep. Froze the side of her door, so that she can't get out and he can creepily admire her sleeping from various positions? 🤓

Nice try beta, good luck making it work.

Last, but not the least- VIKRAM YOU BEAUTY!!! 🤗

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Posted: 7 years ago
#33

Well, yesterday's episode has its own highlights and flip side. The characters hav been etched that way to ensure that there is a level of curiousity and pace in the show.

Sharanya has the right to decide what to do with her life and how to handle her fears. She only knows best what she is going through. While on one hand Vyom leaves the decision of marriage to her, he forces her to accept the fact that only he can resolve all her issues!!! Why?? Why is he imposing his views on her? What is there to hide?

The Ghost wanted Sharanya to meet Dilnaaz, which was ruined by Vyom. He wanted her to see his face. Why? He is again attempting to use his methods to compel Sharanya to visit Dilnaaz. He wants Vyom out. Why?

Interesting episodes ahead as the mystery unravels.



-Rekha
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Nobody in their right minds would justify the creepy behaviour of the ghost. He was wrong whatever his past may have been. But, what I feel most agonized over is that no one either from her family or the guy who claims he loves her is willing to listen to her pleas. Vyom himself is crossing all limits when he suggests he was her past. A woman's identity is not meant to be understood as merely complementary to the man she loves. It's almost as if Sharanya doesn't count in this game of upmanship. And allow me to say , if a guy can be seen and termed as a friend that doesn't mean he closes all outlet and agency for the girl he loves. Rajan is exuding his power while Vyom is translating that power in action. Both the known and unknown entity are creepy as hell. I don't see love in either of these two characters for that girl who seems to be in a position worse than hell. But, this ghost is a split character. This was the same guy who was holding her hands while she lay in coma and today this was the same guy who was scaring the young girl because ...
Anyways, what was quite apparent is that the past is pretty complicated and the present has no place for the ghost. So what are his intentions? As for Namik justifying his character as Mallika said it , more than anyone else he knows the distance between fact vs fiction. As well as that glorification of crime is unacceptable so rest assured Namik has his heart in the right place.
Your review was nice.
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Posted: 7 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: PrincessAshVik



@Bold and Underlined: And I feel he could have done it much before, what was stopping him? This question is bothering me...

A stupid fight doesn't but at that time it did not look like a stupid fight... Like that time, this time even they will make up. In fact they will be getting married even. So, that even I don't get...

I agree whenever Vyom and Sharanya have come closer or are coming closer, Shiv attacks...

Also, Sharanya already felt odd, before she went to meet him, Odhni mentioned a saaya after her... And she did not see his face...

Chalo, I will ignore what Prateek said but there have been instances where Shiv has been innocent😳



The reviews in this forum are nice. My first post here did mention about the beautiful English movie 'Ghost' and as the episodes are being played out, I find a lot of inspiration being drawn. Whoppie Goldberg (she was amazing!) who played Delnaaz role, helps Patrick Swayze (Ghost) touch things. Demi Moore (ghosts lover/wife) realises much later that the supernatural is Patrick. When the Ghost in this soap realises he cannot touch Sharanya, he uses other methods. The script looks good so far.


-Rekha
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@lilith were you in kyy forum or edkv forum? i remember your username but cant figure out in which forum i met you?

i havent seen the episode but from whatever updates i have read i think both vyom and shiv are wrong. both are chipkus and need to give that poor girl some space.
both guys are creepy but shiv's touch makes it creeper since he is invisible and she cannot figure out whats happening to her. if vyom was in his place and touches her while sleeping we can say he was admiring her. shiv is a ghost with creepy makeup and dont have too many expressions to give( since he is a ghost and not because of namik. i am an edkv fan so i know how expressive he is) so even if he sits there and looks at her it will be creepy.
indian tv shows( or tv shows in general) need to stop romanticising manhandling, mansplaining and invading private space etc. what vyom did was also not justifiable in any way but we are so used to seeing scenes like this that we dont feel it is wrong or awkward.
i think sharanya said vyom to get out not just to save him but also due to his behaviour. i saw the 4 min video on yt and she seems pretty mad at him. she has every right to know about her past and no one in her family or vyom is giving her the answer she needs. so her going to that woman is justifiable but the way vyom reacted was way out of the line. the way he said ' mujhe sabardasti karna aatha hai' was really creepy and i didnt find it hot or romantic in any way. no one in her family or vyom is trying to understand her pov. just because vyom loves her unconditionally doesnt mean he has the right to make every single decisions in her life.


p.s- i think the show is going way too slow and they need to show atleast something from the past and tone down sharanya getting creeped out by the ghost every single time.
Edited by spnfan - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
#37
The paradox is that super intelligent viewers are clearly missing a crucial point. .if Shiv couldn't pick a piece of paper himself, how in the heavens is his touch going to be felt by her?
Secondly, the force with which Vyom keeps dragging the girl around, in spite of her repeatedly telling him that he can't be more than a friend is conveniently swept off under the carpet. Slow claps for that👏..

And thirdly but most importantly dragging am actor into this analysis. ..a fourth grader will tell you that he's an actor enacting the scene handed to him and hence under no obligation to either defend or criticise the scene. Adding an IF before a blasphemous assumption doesn't in any way lessen the absolute absurdity of the same.

Bringing down one actor to hail the other one can only mean 2 things:

1. One is not confident about the acting capabilities of one's favourite actor.

Or.

2. Insecurity has crept in once the fact has dawned upon that the other actor is eons better.

Whatever is the case, I would say that both of them are equally capable and equally confident..
Edited by HayaNauman19 - 7 years ago

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