Zid Vs Zabardasti 21/11 - Page 3

Originally posted by: .Lilith.

I'm feeling a lot of things but happy isn't one of them. 😆

Yes, when I put on my VaNya bias glasses on, it's a huge step forward to the progress of their relationship. But the moment I take them off and get into my neutral viewer mode, I feel like what Vyom needs right now is ONE TIGHT SLAP! And not just him, his Daddy darling needs a whole good beating I tell ya!

As individuals, the Father-Son duo are extremely problematic. Vyom's obsession is unhealthy! I am just hoping for it to tone down once Sharanya falls in love with him (like she has another option 😆). The whole point of the waywardness of his obsessive love is wanting her and not getting her. If he gets her, maybe, just maybe he'll view love in a much healthier light. Wishful thinking, but a viewer can dream, right.

Originally posted by: .Lilith.

You are naiver than Shanny if you think that's a possibility! 🤣

What with the Bedi Baap-Beta duo always hulking around near Shanny, keeping an eye on her moves, the moment they'll smell competition for Vyom, they'll make sure to eradicate him before the word GO!

I have stated this even before in one of my reviews, that Vyom's big claims about accepting Shanny being in love with someone else was pure pageantry. In the very next episode, he proved me right. 😆

And that's how obsession works beta. It's not selfless, it's not unconditional, and it can never stand a third person. 🤓

Originally posted by: PrincessAshVik

Shells, I (and a few others) have a question though (Which many are not voicing out right now in public for obvious reason but I would like to)... Why would Shiv take advantage of her right now? She was at his mercy (or so you can say) while in a comatose state... Then why would he take advantage right now? Why not then? Then he used to be by her side, holding her hand...

I think because Sharanya can't see him, it looks a lot worse. It's freaky definitely. I said that yesterday even. And even creepy. I'm not defending Shiv, I would not do that unnecessarily or if Shiv is wrong, I am just wondering why would he do that now? Why now in particular? When Sharanya has actually pushed away Vyom before as well... He could have done it much before...

Originally posted by: .Lilith.

When she was in her comatose state, there was no way she could feel or respond to any of his advances. Also, make no mistake, Vyom was almost always around.

The shaayari he gave at the end was extremely telling!

"Phir ek baar tu laut kar aaya hai, Zindagi pe teri maut ka saaya hai."

^I don't know whether it was meant for Vyom or Shanny, but the fact that he said "you came back, again" means that he took this breakup of VaNya as a- green signal, maybe?

When Shanny had pushed Vyom away before this, they made up in a day or two, or her family was around her. This time, she had made sure to hurt Vyom as much as possible with her words to make him go away. This was not a bratty reaction to Vyom interfering in her life, this was Sharanya using the shield of extremely hurtful words to obliterate Vyom from her life once and for all. So there's a difference.

Originally posted by: sumz_d

Good Post.

But I think we are forgetting a very important fact here.

Remember the scene where Shiv was trying to get the paper out of the fireplace?

From that scene we understood one fact about Shiv. Since he is a ghost he cannot touch/pick things. He uses his eyes to pick things. So when Shiv was trying to touch Sharanya, it was not like Sharanya felt his humanely touch or even Shiv.

Maybe he was trying to console Sharanya since she was upset and had fought with Vyom where Vyom had slapped her and shouted at her.

Maybe Shiv was merely trying to make Sharanya feel his presence.

I am not justifying Shiv here. Because it all depends on his intentions.

However I dont justify Vyom's behaviour either.

I mean the girl has lost her 5yrs memory. Instead of controlling the girl why doesnt he help her in regaining her memory back?

Ok i understand that believing in Odhni kind of people is kind of stupidity in a practical world. So Vyom out of his logic didnt like Sharanya visiting her.

But he could have explained it to Sharanya in a better manner. One more thing about Vyom was highlighred in today's episode was that he has no control in his anger. He has a violent streak.

So for me both the guys are wrong and unjustifiable unless and untill Shiv's intentions are out.

Originally posted by: PrincessAshVik

If she would not feel his advances, when Vyom is asleep a few metres away, he can take advantage right?

I don't know, I can't see it that way regarding the shayari... It could be for Vyom, but how is the breakup a green signal then? Would it not mean that Vyom is back in her life and so his life is in danger...

But both the times she was equally upset (or so I thought from the promo)... She only started warming up to him more during the first maha episode...

I still find it hard to believe Shiv will take advantage of her... Plus if he really wanted to take advantage of her, why wait for her "break up" with Vyom? Since so many days Vyom has moved to his house, slept there. There would be no one around Sharanya. Even her family is clueless... Why would he only scare her? In the episode where she sees the flashback of the accident and the cycle wala... In that episode why did Shiv not take advantage, nobody was there. Why did he only scare her?

Prateek had also said Shiv has an innocence...

These are the reasons why I am finding it hard to believe he would take advantage of her...

Originally posted by: .Lilith.

I really don't know how else to view it apart from a ghost taking advantage of his ability to enter anywhere. No one knows what exactly he wants, except that he wants Vyom out of Shanny's life.

Having a fight because of some stupid reason doesn't really serve as a deal breaker. The first time they got into a fight was inside Sharanya's bathroom. They made up on the following night. The next time was the next day, again, they made up on that very night of the party. The party strengthened their bond and it was too much for Shiv, that could be the reason why he showed himself.

This time was different, he knew that Sharanya knew from Odhni that there was someone involved from her past life who is trying to ruin her present life. He needed her to know he exists, regardless of her not getting to see the face or know the name. Once that was done, it was time to strike.

Also, whatever Prateek might've said, an "innocent" spirit would never do the kind of things Shiv has been doing since day one. Forget about tonight's episode, he has been practically tormenting Shanny for God knows what reasons. She is a step away from losing her mind after waking up from a 2 year long coma because of him- I really cannot deem that as innocent. 😳

Originally posted by: .Lilith.

1. After all the torment Shiv has been putting Sharanya through since the first episode, do you really think Shiv is noble enough to "console" her when she's upset? And that is not how you console anyone- by crawling on top of their bed or cornering them to scare the shit outta them.

2. Shiv has been trying to make his presence felt since the very first episode. Tonight was no different. Except that instead of being just scary for Sharanya, he was also downright creepy with his acts!

3. I don't understand why is it so necessary to say "Vyom was also wrong" when someone points out the wrongdoings of Shiv? It's not like I don't call out on Vyom for his acts. Hell, I called him an obsessed sociopath because I'm brutally unbiased in my dissection of characters and their actions. I don't remember any Vyom fans pointing out Shiv freezing the saline drip.

Even in this review, I've made it abundantly clear as to how problematic I find Vyom and his unhealthy obsession. But it all boils down to what Sharanya wants. If Sharanya has grown so accepting of Vyom touching her (not inappropriately, mind you), I think it shouldn't be such a matter of concern to the others. Sharanya actually was going to let Vyom kiss her hands before the cold wind blew. Vyom tried calming her down and again tried to kiss her hands but she never took her hands away or cursed him for touching her. It took a Shiv opening Vyom's stitches to distract Sharanya from her reverie.