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Posted: 7 years ago
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Note: First of all I like full show and I have watched each and every episode be it of IB or be it DBO so even though I love shivika but I like to see all characters too be it dadi khanna ji or any other character
I am very happy with rikara ruvya getting their due and was very happy with rikara track but shivika have carried show till merger is truth and can't be changed. .
So this is just my rant. Generally I like to be away from fandom fights or bashing GulNeet and mostly positive in all tracks but todays guls comment and then fandom happiness and mocking on that to shivika fans made me write this post.

So from November 16 track were mostly focused on shivika starting from shivika wedding and wedding episodes are the first when IB first time crossed trp 2.
Then from that time OmRu fans kept bashing gul saying that SC is guls fav, NM is guls fav so she is juat giving SS to them. They kept bashing that OmRu are just wallpapers and chamchas to their bhaoya bhabhi. Then from January OmRu were very less in IB as they were busy with DBO and IB was all showing about shivika. OmRu were like guest appearances in episodes. Ru was may be more but for Om it was mostly body double or he was missing as he was in DBO but still IB was doing well. IB got 2.9 trp for tia exposure and mind u promotions were exactly same as they are now. Then makers kept showing pinky pinky shit at time of IPL then also trp was around 1.8-1.9
Then after shivika separation one full week was on priveer and trp went to 1.7 but next week as sson as shivika came in one frame trp went 1.9 from the week just before the merger. So basically from January to just before merger IB was mainly focused on shivika. DBO was there for OmRu.
So now gul is saying that shivika didn't work alone and they worked with rikara/ruvya so in all above where were rikara or ruvya. Also these same fans who are posting sceen shots of guls comment which she deleted, they come and claim that OmRu was just wallpaper and got famous on their talent where as shivika got famous bcoz they got most of SS and now those same fans come and tell that it didn't work bcoz of shivika but other two couples were also there? I agree full family and tean work does wonders but that should be said for current time bcoz before merger this wasn't d case.
Same gul mam said that obros weren't working so we focused on shivika love story is now not even giving shivika their due credit?

I like family scene and looking forward to story of all 3 couples plus family but that doesn't change the fact but shivika story saved IB ship from sinking. So gul mam not fair that you are taking credit of shivika/narbhi hardwork from them. Yes it is fine to give credit to full team for ongoing or future but taking away the credit from people who saved show from shutting down is so not done

PS: this post isn't for creating any fanwar. I just wanted to get it out from my system bcoz for gul I have understood that she keeps changing her statement every now and then but then fans are also like same lol they only will come and say OmRu were. Chamchas and didn't get their due but at times like this they will again come and say shivika didn't save IB but OmRu did.

PPS: gul mam looks like your king size ego is going to sink IB ship. IB have got so so so good cast, perfect for the characters they play and having a tight script with good story can do wonders but inse na ho payega.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Agreed on every point that you have made. If we post anything more then it will be fan war which I don't intend to.

I am at loss of words when I read about Gul's comment. It was really disheartening from a producer to come up with such replies just because fans have been flooding her account with comments...
Strangely the comment is deleted and then the show writer sends out a peace message to all Shivika fans... ummm... not sure why are they trying to pacify if they think and know they are right !!! Sigh !!!!

I understand that she wanted to make a story on three brothers with family drama... but as far as I remember it didn't go that way except for the initial episodes...Then focused was shifted to Shivika and it did work for them in terms of numbers... I have read about the same in more than one interview by both Gul and Harneet. yes people had missed Obros but that didn't really affect the TRP of IB.

Its a fact that Shivika and Narbhi saved IB and had good numbers until merger. I haven't watched DBO so I wouldn't comment on that. But as an ardent Shivika and Narbhi fan I do feel bad that these guys are not given their due credit... yes we had good story and tracks but Narbhi made them alive and lived the characters to the core that even after the merger and all illogical and non sense tracks, people like me still watch because for me Narbhi made Shivika and IB what is is today...
If you can't give credit to them it's fine but then atleast don't demean their hard work by saying that Shivika alone didn't fetch numbers...when in fact every one in fandom is aware of numbers... atleast the barc ratings...

I am done with my rant but every one and the producer can say whatever they want but Shivika is and will always be a brand in itself. Done.


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: ithihaas

Agreed on every point that you have made. If we post anything more then it will be fan war which I don't intend to.


I am at loss of words when I read about Gul's comment. It was really disheartening from a producer to come up with such replies just because fans have been flooding her account with comments...
Strangely the comment is deleted and then the show writer sends out a peace message to all Shivika fans... ummm... not sure why are they trying to pacify if they think and know they are right !!! Sigh !!!!

I understand that she wanted to make a story on three brothers with family drama... but as far as I remember it didn't go that way except for the initial episodes...Then focused was shifted to Shivika and it did work for them in terms of numbers... I have read about the same in more than one interview by both Gul and Harneet. yes people had missed Obros but that didn't really affect the TRP of IB.

Its a fact that Shivika and Narbhi saved IB and had good numbers until merger. I haven't watched DBO so I wouldn't comment on that. But as an ardent Shivika and Narbhi fan I do feel bad that these guys are not given their due credit... yes we had good story and tracks but Narbhi made them alive and lived the characters to the core that even after the merger and all illogical and non sense tracks, people like me still watch because for me Narbhi made Shivika and IB what is is today...
If you can't give credit to them it's fine but then atleast don't demean their hard work by saying that Shivika alone didn't fetch numbers...when in fact every one in fandom is aware of numbers... atleast the barc ratings...

I am done with my rant but every one and the producer can say whatever they want but Shivika is and will always be a brand in itself. Done.



Exactly no one is denying hard work for OmRu or their respective partners but this is so unfair that you take away the credit from deserving when they r d one saved your show from shutting down. There was no other couples for almost 6 months and OmRu kept coming as guest appearances as in when needed. And I do agree that family atleast pinky dadi tia all were there but tracks were shivika centric and we got characters growth. When narbhi getting nominated for a award then people come and bash them saying OmRu was present just as wallpapers and still are famous bcoz of their talents but then when it comes to give credit for holding IB before merger then they again come and say shivika didn't work alone and OmRu did it. I am not saying to give credit just to shivika but at least give them their due GulNeet bcoz agree or not IB was at 1.9 trp even when you ruined it with forced separation, priveer kammeni story so don't take away d credit of their hardword
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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This is what even i have been saying.

She said TEAMWORK where the whole team wasnt there in the show for a lot of episodes.

Kunal and lee were busy for dbo since Jan.
I remember cribbing for Om's body double for a lot of important scenes.

"Only dbo fans should see the Ishqbaaaz from June 16 - Jan 17 properly to understand that Gul was wrong.

Dunno which trp she calculated. Sigh.

They showed pinky priveer kamini track during ipl and we viewers kept thinking cos of ipl they are dragging the track. Om and Rudy were literally guest appearance during this phase.
Especially during priveer shaadi hungama.

From FEB to COMPLETE MERGER -
SHIVIKA WAS THE LEAD OF THE SHOW LIKE HOW OMRU WERE LEADS OF DBO.
So it was Shivika who got ISHQBAAAZ back on track.

Now after the merger it is the story of all three brothers and the 3 couples.
So the trp from now is to be calculated and analysed TO SAY ITS TEAMWORK EFFORT OF THE SHOW.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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That's the irony...the same fans who bashed Gulneet for not giving a good story for other couples are now defending her statement.
I still cannot decode her statement in saying DBO didn't work without Shivika and IB didn't work without Obros..when was DBO created for Shivika? It was to provide stories to Om and Ru...which she failed miserably...if she would have given a proper story and track then DBO would also have numbers...
Even after DBO which was supposed to be for Om and Ru, Lee almost decided to quit ...he was retained with a promise of his own track and then Bhavya came in...
I am not denying that Om and Ru didn't have any share in success that IB had...but it's also true that Shivika centric tracks have given then numbers...
It's really sad that the producer of the show is denying the role of a couple that had given them numbers.

She had 3 months of 1 hour slot where she could have easily given proper story and tracks for each of the couples but all we got are drag fests. If her statement was true about none of the couples alone worked then these months of merger should have numbers..and star plus wouldn't have reduced the time slot to 30 min.

We can go on and on but it's like banging our heads on walls...

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: forumgirl

This is what even i have been saying.

She said TEAMWORK where the whole team wasnt there in the show for a lot of episodes.

Kunal and lee were busy for dbo since Jan.
I remember cribbing for Om's body double for a lot of important scenes.

"Only dbo fans should see the Ishqbaaaz from June 16 - Jan 17 properly to understand that Gul was wrong.

Dunno which trp she calculated. Sigh.

They showed pinky priveer kamini track during ipl and we viewers kept thinking cos of ipl they are dragging the track. Om and Rudy were literally guest appearance during this phase.
Especially during priveer shaadi hungama.

From FEB to COMPLETE MERGER -
SHIVIKA WAS THE LEAD OF THE SHOW LIKE HOW OMRU WERE LEADS OF DBO.
So it was Shivika who got ISHQBAAAZ back on track.

Now after the merger it is the story of all three brothers and the 3 couples.
So the trp from now is to be calculated and analysed TO SAY ITS TEAMWORK EFFORT OF THE SHOW.

@bold: exactly my point. Now it is about all 3 couples and it should be said team work. But before merger OmRu were like guest appearances. We all used to ask for not using body double in atleast important scenes. From last few months we are taking all shit tracks just bcoz of narbhi. Editors have really kept splitting shivika scene in full episode, like 5 min scene in 5 parts and this was all guls trick to show other two couples in between shivika scene. I like them and watch but there are fans who just watch shivika and this kind of editing spoiled essence of shivika scene still fans kept patience just for narbhi and now gul mata not giving them their due credit and keeping it away stating as team work
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I can understand why fans are upset, but at the same time she always behaves like this so it never bothers me. I find her social media exchanges entertaining 😆
I watched both shows and it was obvious she wasn't interested in either show, but IB survived the disinterest while DBO didn't. That is a fact. Star Plus gives a warning so Omru are sidelined for Shivika and that pattern continued until DBO happened. I'm not sure why she had to demean others hardwork to sell the idea of teamwork. There is no denying that teamwork made IB possible, but stating wrong numbers and taking away credit wasn't cool. IB was doing fine even during IPL so to say Shivika doesn't work alone is not only a lie, but it's a disservice to the actors that carried the show. Like DBO achievements were their own during the successful weeks then IB sucess should be their own as well.

I have the same stance I've always had with her. Ignore everything she says because she flips according to whatever she makes her look capable😆 She wanted to make DBO so "Omru didn't need Shivika" and "Shivika didn't need Omru". She almost destroys IB and destroyed DBO because her interest was elsewhere. The shows need to be merged so now "Shivika needs Omru and Omru needs Shivika". Then 70 +episodes of hour slot so it's the "OBros need each other". Did we get the OBros? Nope, it was random filler tracks and villains. This is her pattern if TRPs fall and the TRP audience don't accept the new formula she will scrap and pretend she never made those statements in the past. Instead of acknowledging her mistakes and trying to fix both shows she just looks for a scapegoat. "This" needs "that", "this didn't get TRPs", or "Shivika needs OBros and OBros need Shivika". When in reality all both shows needed was attention and a better script 😆

She wanted to be right so she discredited their hardwork.



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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: onlyrani

I can understand why fans are upset, but at the same time she always behaves like this so it never bothers me. I find her social media exchanges entertaining 😆

I watched both shows and it was obvious she wasn't interested in either show, but IB survived the disinterest while DBO didn't. That is a fact. Star Plus gives a warning so Omru are sidelined for Shivika and that pattern continued until DBO happened. I'm not sure why she had to demean others hardwork to sell the idea of teamwork. There is no denying that teamwork made IB possible, but stating wrong numbers and taking away credit wasn't cool. IB was doing fine even during IPL so to say Shivika doesn't work alone is not only a lie, but it's a disservice to the actors that carried the show. Like DBO achievements were their own during the successful weeks then IB sucess should be their own as well.

I have the same stance I've always had with her. Ignore everything she says because she flips according to whatever she makes her look capable😆 She wanted to make DBO so "Omru didn't need Shivika" and "Shivika didn't need Omru". She almost destroys IB and destroyed DBO because her interest was elsewhere. The shows need to be merged so now "Shivika needs Omru and Omru needs Shivika". Then 70 +episodes of hour slot so it's the "OBros need each other". Did we get the OBros? Nope, it was random filler tracks and villains. This is her pattern if TRPs fall and the TRP audience don't accept the new formula she will scrap and pretend she never made those statements in the past. Instead of acknowledging her mistakes and trying to fix both shows she just looks for a scapegoat. "This" needs "that", "this didn't get TRPs", or "Shivika needs OBros and OBros need Shivika". When in reality all both shows needed was attention and a better script 😆

She wanted to be right so she discredited their hardwork.




Yeah very true... she changes her statements as per her whim.
@bold. Exactly now she wants to prove that merger is a correct decision. So she comes up with numbers just to accentuate her statement saying Shivika didn't work without Obros and DBO didnt work because of no Shivika.
Now to prove her point that Obros are only the selling point she is forcing all the group interactions...
When you are living in a joint family, yes there are lot of interactions between family members but each couple do still have their own private space...
In the name of merger she is showing everything in group which is so unsettling for a viewer...

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Good post. Point is she can not lie to prove her point. And I agree all characters and actors are amazing in IB. That is the reason it is still running with all crap. But this is also true that every Jodi can not be hit aland create magic otherwise Gul baby show would have not been failure inspite of such a famouts lead. t

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