Originally posted by: Cookies..
Archana and Manav's story had ALOT of drama related to Savita Tai (Manavs mother). On top of that, it couldn't even last them the entire show. Pavitra Rishta was also majorly popular for Arjun and Purvi's jodi (an opposites attract couple). Kis Des couldn't even run a full 2 years because of dropping TRP ratings. I remember that they did all that Prem dying and coming back alive because Harshad wanted to quit after 6 months and the show just went downhill because they kept introducing multiple vamps to kill show time.
I didnt say that they wasnt any drama involved in those shows, just that those two shows had couples who had similar personalities being paired together and they were popular when they aired. Both ArMan/SushIta and Premeer/HarshIti were winning best jodi awards and featured in SBS segments etc. PR with whatever crap they showed was a high TRP topper constantly and was the highest rated Zee show at the time before KKB came along, now whether it was due to the family drama or the couple IDK. And No I'm not an ArVi fan either because again they didnt have any unique scenes for me to fall for them😆 I guess I just don't like this trope. I'm simply saying that ArMan did have a beautiful relationship despite the family drama (IMO). As for KDMHMD, no Harshad didnt want to quit, Kekta wanted him to play Arjun in her new Mahabharat and he even had done promo shots and all for it and he was supposed to be in that show after his exit from KDMHMD, she was all set to have Prem die and Preet marry Heer, only when the fans went berserk on her did she realize and changed the story and Harshad stayed on the show as Prem, but yes up till that point, again they had a beautiful love story and as all Kekta shows go, yes it was ruined as well.
Originally posted by: Cookies..
I'm glad that we're able to have a civil discussion on this.
EXACTLY MY POINT. Rishabh is NOT a perfect character just like Karan. He has his flaws which are overlooked by many because of his soft mannerism in contrast to Karan's outspoken and loud one. Besides, Rishabh doesn't know Preeta as well as Karan does. He is mostly seen mesmerized by her outer beauty and admiring her soberness. He has never seen her stand up for herself or getting defensive or even telling someone off. He has merely always witnessed her in need of help (needing a job, police station, ruby stealing drama) and he was there to save the day for her. She has literally always been the damsel in distress whom he was there to save. Rishabh started getting attracted to Preeta very early on. They also had the dupatta scene, falling in arms, mesmerized, eye-locks scene. But so far, Preeta only holds him in great regards due to the fact that he always came to her rescue in the initial days. I'm not saying he is bad. Not at all. He has the heart to stand up for her against his Bua and prove her innocent. That does get him brownie points and respect. BUT, love isn't even in the ball park. He hardly knows the real Preeta. Her life, her struggles, what she can do and her childish side (which only Karan has seen). None of that. Ekta's most prestigious serial Kyunki Saas Bhi Kabhi Bahu Thi had a similar couple of Tulsi and Mihir. But this kind of couple can only last you for so long. It ended up becoming a saga of the entire family generation after generation COMPLETELY losing its track. In my opinion, Preeta only truly opens up in front of Karan. He will help her grow in confidence as she already has around him and she will help him tame his ego and humble-ize him a bit. When you are of similar nature and personality, there is not much you can learn from the other person. You guys are too much alike to ever discover anything new in each other.
As far as Sameer being an orphan is concerned. I believe that in his introduction week itself, he wasn't really shown to have any parents. Rishabh and Karans' father is his uncle so I believe that he is raised by their family but isn't their own brother. He is Rishabh and Karan's cousin like Kritika but isn't Kareena's son. Besides, Rishabh went out of his way to remind him that he isn't his brother which hurt him. And it is NOT just as a business man. Rishabh is generally very rude to Sameer. He doesn't treat him well in general. On top of that, if Sherlin turns into a out and out vamp, it will fall on Rishabhs' shoulders. I mean, which girl in the entire world would want to be led onto something as serious as an engagement, leading onto marriage and getting it broken off just cuz the man has his eyes on someone else?! Like, that is just as bad as cheating on someone. Sherlin even went to the extent of saying that if Rishabh isn't interested, she rather break it all off. So, if Rishabh is continuing to pursue her for God knows what idiotic reason, whatever she becomes will be on him. That is very immature of him considering he is the mature one. And no girl in the world would like the 'other women' in the equation between her and her would-be future husband. Nobody. So if she ends up hating Preeta, it will be because of Rishabh. This is doing nobody any good fam.
Lets put it this way, if it goes the PreeRan way, it'll be more passionate and love-story focused. If it goes the RishTa way, it'll be more small sober exchanges with lots of family drama. Considering that it is an Ekta Kapoor drama, she can't withhold a sensible story for too long.
Again I don't deny RishTa having cliched scenes as well, IDK why the dupatta always has to land on the guy and why the girl has to always fall down and the dude catches her (like this scene there have been literally a scene like this in EVERY SINGLE freaking show that is on TV🥱)
The same way that Rishabh doesn't know the real Preeta, I could argue and say that Karan doesn't either. Karan doesn't know her struggles, he doesn't know her past he doesn't know her insecurities he sees the "wild" side of hers, he hasn't seen her goodness or honesty and he only sees her as a nuisance and psycho. Like I've said before, for me I don't find insults funny. The fact that you have to insult someone and call them a psycho every time you meet and try to push their buttons its just not lovable to me in any way (that may be the preschool teacher side of me since I deal with this behavior on a daily basis😆) I don't find bickering and insulting cute or adorable in any way, I hated it with Ishita-Raman(the Madrasan thing really bothered me), I hated it with Dev-Sonakshi(same thing with the Bangalan and Obodrow thing) and other couples that have come before and after them🥱. For me, the basis of a relationship is respect, if there is no respect then I don't think the relationship will go anywhere. Why would a person even consider being in a relationship with a person that doesn't respect them. That's why I don't like when they use insults as a way to show "opposites attract", people can still be opposites and be attracted to one another without being complete jerks to one another. IMO the only time Karan has shown respect to Preeta is when he saved her from the goons and even then he irritated her with the whole "you're an obsessive fan" nonsense afterwards when she did feel some sort of sympathy and care for him🥱It's the same thing with the Sameer situation, if Rishabh is constantly rude to Sameer then Karan is also constantly rude to Preeta. I mean he fake confessed to her that he loves her to try to lose a friggin cricket match, a match that was literally done in jest. If he can be forgiven for emotionally manipulating Preeta then why not Rishabh who DID apologize to Sameer and he does give him second chances at business and he still treats him as a brother who scolds him.
As I've said before the ultimate nok-jhok couple for me was is and always will be Pratham-Gauri and no other couple can beat them in that department, sorry but they can't😆. Every single couple(Kekta or non Kekta) that has this trope is nothing but a rehash of Pratham-Gauri. So another reason why I can't get into PreeRan or couples like PreeRan.
I personally prefer Rishabh because he doesn't have to insult Preeta to get her attention, he lets her be honest towards him, she can count on him because he trusts her as a person first. He trusted her to treat his Dadi, he trusted her when she said her sister was in jail and that Preeta would never support a wrong deed, he trusted her when she was accused of stealing a ruby. He (and Shrishti and Rakhi) were the only ones who did trust her while everyone else was still iffy about her. All of these things show that Rishabh infact has seen the real Preeta (its not like she's some well written character anyways because she's literally Archana,Pragya,Tulsi insert any other female Kekta lead here🥱). She is a good, dedicated person who has a practical approach in life, Rishabh has seen this side from the start. Their first meeting was beautifully done in which he saw how honest and good this girl really is trying to feed a poor hungry child and even offering a sum of money for him. When she was being harrassed by Dadi, he saw her being resilient and do her job with a smile rather than be a spoil sport. He comments on her dedication, he appreciates how much she does for the family. He's always seen her honesty and goodness, which explains why he is attracted to her. She's the only one who has asked him why he's lonely, she's the only one who respects him as a friend and sees him for who he is, a person who is so devoted to work and family that he doesn't have time for himself. Preeta is the only one who asked, everyone else in the family just assumed he was busy with work and yet Preeta got him to answer of WHY he was lonely/single. She is herself when she is around him, she doesn't have to act irritated or agitated and she is frank with him. Preeta tells him that he should be married because marriage is a wonderful thing, she tells him that he is a good person and she is happy for him and she genuinely means it.
There is a sense of respect and connection RishTa have which I personally find intriguing which is what makes me root for them(which is sad that despite having all these "love" stories the one with respect is the one that is being looked down upon). And yes I want Kekta to explore this kind of relationship because it would be something different from what she has done before. I would hate it if they made him into a villain just to take the easy way out and not explore this wonderful character they have created. He is a good, but flawed individual who deserves good things to happen to him. There is a LOT of potential with RishTa if handled and explored the right way, there can be focus on love story with them as well, the writers just have to do their job,😆. If PreeRan happen, then it'll definitely have leaps and separation tracks and suffering and what not due to Kekta loving to torture her leads with all this nonsense.
As for the Sherlin crap, I am majorly disappointed at how they're handling this track just to spice up the love triangle and trying to show stupidity in terms of advancing the plot. How hard is it to speak to someone about it like ugh, it's so obvious that Sherlin will be the vamp🥱 and will make Preeta's life hell like why the hell do we need another vamp, wasnt effing Bua enough. but whatever it's kekta and I'm not expecting anything. If it does go the PreeRan way then congrats to the shippers and enjoy the show, because I know me and most of the RishTa shippers will quit if they show Rishabh as a villain or whatever😊
The writers have created 4 great characters and it has the potential to be either a good story or dumpster fire (and since this is Kekta it'll be dumpster fire pretty damn fast😆) it's up to the writers to handle the story and characters with care because they have a 4 good characters and 4 great actors who are doing full justice to their respective characters, I just wish that for once the actors get their dues.
sorry for the rant😆 I havent seen this week's episodes so I don't know if the story has significantly changed or not
Edited by Tani91 - 8 years ago
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