The futility of keeping score in love

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Maybe I shouldn't be, but I'm still surprised to read how often the discussions in this forum succumb to the same bottom line...keeping score on how much Shivaay did, how much Anika did...who deserves whom more...who doesn't deserve anyone anymore over supposed letting down in one scene😆.

In particular, I'd like to talk about the morphed video scene today and more specifically Shivaay and Anika's reactions to that...such a beautiful scene in terms of how much their eyes were speaking to each other in that scene...Shivaay looked stricken as he first saw Anika pick up the phone and view the video...she looks up at him and his eyes are pretty much pleading for her to know the truth...that he would never do this...that there is no one but her for him...and her eyes answering back with quiet but firm faith...that she knows this isn't him...there is pain in her eyes but faith too...posting some caps below to illustrate the whole conversation that was going on b/w them, without saying a word...




He rushes to explain

Rags jumps in to try and divert his attention her way but he is still unable to tear his gaze away from Anika, his entire being is focused on wanting to clarify to her

It was actually pretty amusing after a point that Shivika were too busy staring at each other to bother paying heed to Rags 😆


And then Anika stumps Shivaay by verbally declaring her absolute faith in him


There is some irony and bittersweet emotions at play here, obviously...Shivika's relationship broke over their trust not holding out in the face of adverse circumstances...they both failed each other...Anika failed in having enough trust in Shivaay's love for her and Shivaay failed in having enough trust in the Anika he knew, succumbing to the ruthless facade she presented one fine day...and yet in this moment, we see a return of that strong faith b/w them...there's the Anika who's always had absolute faith in Shivaay...he sees her and turns in surprise...it's been so long since he got to see that familiar Anika...it's an emotional feeling for him that stumps him...

The scene is also bittersweet because of how much Shivaay is instantly wanting to clarify to her, yearning for her understanding...and when he gets it, along with her fierce defense of him...he's still grappling with it all...


I'm not really sure what people are finding today to hold against Shivaay...that he didn't question Rags? LOL but isn't that expected in the overall drag this fake fiance storyline is? It wasn't a moment of letting down Anika or choosing an outsider over her...how can one even think that considering the fact that he rushed to clarify to Anika first...the very same Shivaay who otherwise is touting that he has a new fiancee is only consumed with wanting to clarify to ANIKA first...so where does he question of letting her down come from? 😆...in fact there is hilarious irony at play that his entire being is still completely consumed by thoughts of Anika...no matter how much he wants to deny otherwise.


The issue at hand is both Shivaay and Anika refusing to come clean with each other...Anika started the problem with her seperation drama but Shivaay is now in no mood to give her a chance to clarify aaraam se...it's a situation that builds on up of itself...but that doesn't mean this is about who did more for this relationship and who let who down...mistakes were made on both sides and they continue to be made even now...but to instantly jump to the conclusion that one mistake means that the person doesn't deserve the other...isn't that futile? 😕


Shivaay and Anika love each other deeply...to the point of being consumed by it in a sense...they have their huge ego b/w them but they aren't EVER keeping score about WHO deserves who more? ...they have grudges right now, sure...but that's a seperate issue.


Currently their eyes are communicating more with each other than their words...the words are something they are deliberately holding back...but their actions are betraying the emotions they feel inside...


One final point re: Anika and her insecurity issues...yes, she poured all of herself into loving Shivaay...but I wouldn't say she completely lost her identity...let's remember she still insisted on being JUST Anika...never took on the tag of his last name...fiercely cared for him as a wife but not in the form of some idealized TV bahu...the sindoor/MS dialogues aside, she was quintessential wacky Anika post marriage in many ways too...and it's important to note that Shivaay NEVER asked her to become some ideal wife or ideal bahu...she CHOSE to pour all her love into being his wife and the bahu of the family because that is her personality...filled with love and compassion for the ones she cares about...she let slide the disrespect she faced, not cuz she wanted to be an ideal bahu or wife...she let it slide cuz she LOVED Shivaay...she made allowances for him and his family in that love...sometimes at the cost of her self-respect so that was wrong...but again, no one compelled her to do that...she needs to realize her mistakes on her own and I think it's counterproductive to find scapegoats for this.


Shivaay-Anika are in the process of finding their way back to each other...rediscovering the faith and trust b/w each other and hopefully trying to build it up to be much stronger this time😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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BM! 😊

Originally posted by: AreYaar


There is some irony and bittersweet emotions at play here, obviously...Shivika's relationship broke over their trust not holding out in the face of adverse circumstances...they both failed each other...Anika failed in having enough trust in Shivaay's love for her and Shivaay failed in having enough trust in the Anika he knew, succumbing to the ruthless facade she presented one fine day...and yet in this moment, we see a return of that strong faith b/w them...there's the Anika who's always had absolute faith in Shivaay...he sees her and turns in surprise...it's been so long since he got to see that familiar Anika...it's an emotional feeling for him that stumps him...

The scene is also bittersweet because of how much Shivaay is instantly wanting to clarify to her, yearning for her understanding...and when he gets it, along with her fierce defense of him...he's still grappling with it all...


The issue at hand is both Shivaay and Anika refusing to come clean with each other...Anika started the problem with her seperation drama but Shivaay is now in no mood to give her a chance to clarify aaraam se...it's a situation that builds on up of itself...but that doesn't mean this is about who did more for this relationship and who let who down...mistakes were made on both sides and they continue to be made even now...but to instantly jump to the conclusion that one mistake means that the person doesn't deserve the other...isn't that futile? 😕


Shivaay and Anika love each other deeply...to the point of being consumed by it in a sense...they have their huge ego b/w them but they aren't EVER keeping score about WHO deserves who more? ...they have grudges right now, sure...but that's a seperate issue.


Currently their eyes are communicating more with each other than their words...the words are something they are deliberately holding back...but their actions are betraying the emotions they feel inside...


One final point re: Anika and her insecurity issues...yes, she poured all of herself into loving Shivaay...but I wouldn't say she completely lost her identity...let's remember she still insisted on being JUST Anika...never took on the tag of his last name...fiercely cared for him as a wife but not in the form of some idealized TV bahu...the sindoor/MS dialogues aside, she was quintessential wacky Anika post marriage in many ways too...and it's important to note that Shivaay NEVER asked her to become some ideal wife or ideal bahu...she CHOSE to pour all her love into being his wife and the bahu of the family because that is her personality...filled with love and compassion for the ones she cares about...she let slide the disrespect she faced, not cuz she wanted to be an ideal bahu or wife...she let it slide cuz she LOVED Shivaay...she made allowances for him and his family in that love...sometimes at the cost of her self-respect so that was wrong...but again, no one compelled her to do that...she needs to realize her mistakes on her own and I think it's counterproductive to find scapegoats for this.


Shivaay-Anika are in the process of finding their way back to each other...rediscovering the faith and trust b/w each other and hopefully trying to build it up to be much stronger this time😊


@bold... Can I just say again... I LOVE you! 🤗and what and how you write!! 🤗

Thank You for this post... Much needed!!
The point I have been trying to make since a few weeks now...
Both are at fault.. Both needs to find their way back!! But needed to learn from their mistakes..Both need to redeem.. Both needed to understand each other..

A 'wise' PAPPU once said: "It takes TWO TO TANGO!!" 😆... Nahi Tanga toh ek jaan bhi chala sakta hai" 😆
Edited by blackorwhite - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Good analysis. Waiting to watch the episode
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Posted: 8 years ago
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❤️


There you said it, girl. The scene was so endearing and has been on my mind on a loop after watching the episode. And also the precap.


Absolutely loved it. And your analysis is love. This is no Anika v/s Shivaay. I am not experienced wrt marriage 😆 but I guess two people come together to love and live with the flaws. And wrt Shivika's equation I don't see them as butchered (as the fandom calls it). In fact I am pleased and surprised the way Shivaay as a character has been handled. Vulnerable, expressive of his hurt vis-a-vis the typical back to being ruthless, non believer.


On a lighter note, what I definitely cringe is Shivaay's choice of clothes post lapse. Somebody get him out of flowery shirt. And please lord his highlighted hair just need to fade NOW. And Nagini. 🥱
Edited by zehnasseb - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Beautifully said! Absolutely agree!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Wow awesome post
You describe their emotions beautifully
lovely
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Posted: 8 years ago
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this is exactly i wanted to say... both shivaay and anika failed each other in the relationship... they both had trust but one thing they lacked was communication...they should have communicated better and now also they are lacking communication...

brilliant write up👏👏👏
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Posted: 8 years ago
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This is so lovely😳
if you want to talk about eyes, how about you write a bit more about the kitchen scene too, when Naagini said Shivika are divorced and both again communicated through their eyes😳

I agree about SSO being consumed completely by Annika, but everyone are hoping that he'd see beyond what is infront of him( more in this case for Naagini than Annika)😆

the precap😳

i always loved an angry Annika... but we all know nothing much will happen, 1-2 mins of talks, and then track will change completely into hey baby one😆

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Posted: 8 years ago
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This is exactly my kind of post ❤️ so beautiful... Thank you so much for writing this, I really missed such posts in the forum... I've never seen such a couple where the eye contact scenes literally say so much without a single word... it's a totally shivikalicious feature lol :)) I love each and every bit of them. I've always been in love with this kind of scenes of Shivika ❤️
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Beautiful post AY! 😆 This was a perfect interpretation of today's moment.. I loved the way they had the silent conversation by just expressing with their eyes.. Shivaay was angry when he saw the video but the moment Anika picked up the phone he was so worried that she might mistake him..all pretense of moving on and getting engaged under the rugs..his expressions were that of pleading her to understand that it wasn't him and first instinct was to just clarify immediately that it was fake..he has never had that kind of a relationship.. and Anika's response was that of being hurt to be in that position but her resilient belief in him.. her one statement that none of his family including her needs any justification from her and have total faith in Shivaay.. that moment he was so grateful.. relieved and slightly surprised to see his own Anika supporting him as always.. it was such a poignant moment! 😊

And the fact that he didn't say anything to Nagini..well Anika and the junior couples were all asking her the right questions and Shivaay didnt defend her.. he just stood there letting them ask the questions.. it's obvious he doesn't care a bit about Nagini.. and all his concentration is only reserved for Anika.. yes he stopped her from continuing her rant because that's how he is.. and he immediately told her that he will handle it.. that doesn't mean he's picking Nagini over Anika.. he just wants to resolve the issue calmly..not increase it..

He has been using Nagini as only a means to generate jealousy in Anika.. but now he's reducing that also..😆 He has stopped asking Anika about her engagement coz I think he realized that he was mistaken.. and right now he's just playing along with Ragini just to get some reactions out of Anika..but as soon as the fake video issue arouse he had such a true Billu expression that it's all fake..and in the end he made sure Nagini leaves the house..lol he's not interested in increasing the issue anymore regards to Nagini..one fake video and his false claims about moving on in life could have become a real thing and he was terrified that Anika would think wrong about him.. somewhere he has realised that she still feels the same about him.. and is just putting on a mask. 😆

And I totally agree with your point about both having made mistakes in the relationship..Anika kinda lost herself after the forced wedding.. first it took her a long time to get back up and then she fell hopelessly in love which made her subconsciously take decisions and change herself which is human.. her entire life revolved around him and we all were very irritated of that too.. for example Sahil's thief accusation etc.. but Shivaay never asked her to be that way.. she just did that out of her love and her insecurities..

She did have her moments where she was Anika and she fought back but mostly she endured the loss of her dignity at the hands of her in laws..which was purely out of love as she thought it was ok if she has to endure such things from a mother or from her family..that was her nature that she endured all this as she never had a family and she subconsciously was okay with paying this cost to have this family.. and anyways all this was before the Biwi declaration.. I think the main issue is that both weren't equals in the relationship.. she herself gave Shivaay the higher position.. he didnt demand it or ask for it.. it was her fault.. he is a dominating character and so is she but she subconsciously made Shivaay her everything which isnt wrong entirely as long as you keep some balance..and Shivaay also didnt see all this..

I don't think either of them realized the depth of her insecurities and neither did she talk openly with Shivaay about the way his mother treated her.. both took that problem for granted as they thought it would resolve on its own.. until it was too late..Shivaay's only main fault was that he didnt put a stop to Pinky's vile intentions and insults..Apart from that well he needs to dig into matters more than just looking at the face value of what has been presented to him..he basically doesn't realise somethings which he should but he will learn..😆 he has been learning a lot since the time he forcefully married her.. and if he had more time he would have learned more..😊

This time they will be back together by communicating well..that is my hope! 😆
Edited by maverick04 - 8 years ago

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