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Originally posted by: Banjaaran.
I can't believe i am writing a post defending Suraj. after all my Suraj bashing kaands .. this feels weird but here you go.
It is Cvs fault Sailu. these guys simply have NO clue as to how they should go ahead with Suraj the character.
they wanted an MU and separation. fair enough. after confession the interest of audience and hence the trps goes down. so bringing in separation was logical.
what was NOT logical is the way they went about it.
i am reading lot many beautiful analysis as to why Suraj did whatever he did.
Earlier it was... FOR Chakor. he couldn't see her begging and crying and that she loves Imli and would be heartbroken. NOT for Imli
And then it was FOR his guilt about the how he treated Imli and the rejecting his unborn. Where is Chakor here? we can say because she changed him he is thinking like this. fair enough. but can we say NOW that he is doing it FOR Chakor?
The character himself says.. for chakor one day.
For Imli and the kid's respect other episode.
now he says he is doing it out of guilt. for vivaan and so on.
to cut a long story short.. Cvs messed up.
and it is SO not fair to VJ for it is upto him AGAIN to rescue a character that the makers have got no clue of expressing. or taking it forward.
I see VJ giving his all to salvage the situation. I admire him. and then i see Suraj's scenes with Imli, his terrible dialogues, his horrendous attitude.. and still end up hating Suraj.
Bandua track with all its flaws and faultlines was beautiful in a way for it shaped his character so beautifully. his transformation from boy to a man was done in heartbreakingly beautiful way (if you ignore lot many transgressions here)
and the emotional connect between Suraj and Chakor was priceless.
and then Cvs happened. there was NO need for the touchy feely utterly inappropriate bond between Suraj and Imli after the bandua track.
the bond they shared was sweet and harmless till that point.
now everytime we see them together... we simply don't want to see Suraj with Chakor. Unless Imli gets out of his life... Suraj will NOT shine the way he meant to. he will NOT be accepted. not by trp junta.
what kind of trp audience will want to see BIL and SIL sharing a room together? reasons be damned.
i can't believe CVs didn't foresaw this. and bringing in a new guy who is doing the herogiri that should have been Suraj's right is not fair to the actor who brought alive Suraj. it should have been Suraj's vengeance. HE was wronged. treated so brutally during his bandua phase.
whatever happened to his sood sameet?
he is reduced to ping poing between two girls.
while the lead girl gets to hero work with new hero. i really can't make myself care for Suraj but i still think it is not fair to VJ.
i guess i digressed.
so Suraj's love versus his guilt.
I say it is his pure selfishness. and it will come back to bite him when Imli herself will denounce his mahanta.
if he is guilty for what he did with Imli and the unborn why isn't he feeling too guilty of what he dealt to Chakor by this deed of his?
it is ALL about him. he wants to do what is right by Imli and he still wants Chakor in his life. like how? What will be her status? his wife? his mistress? what will be Imli and her kid's status? Is he really this stupid or plain arrogant or just selfish? i get guilty. then take a stand and stick by it. why ruin another life to assuage you guilt? Chakor's life to be more precise.
he loves Chakor?
i for one will say... she had it easy when he hated her then. Atleast she knew when she stood in his life then.
Listen Sailu...Suraj loves Chakor,and only her,totally madly,crazily..and this is not really a topic to be discussed.
Coming,to the main point...Suraj announced himself guilty,in a very vulnerable situation,and at that moment he had indeed took the decision for Chakor...(see the 3rd may episode,and you will know what I am trying to say).Imli was in such a condition,that only a MAN was needed for her,coz the until then,everyone was blaming only her,the moment he came forward,all the focus shifted on him...and he silently bore everything..After that,when he came home without her,he would have told everything to Chakor...HAD HE BELIEVED THAT SHE WOULD SUPPORT HIM IN IT...coz we all know,that Chakor had never ever supported him in his decisions...he is right or not is a different thing,I am talking about Chakor's distrust on Suraj's decisions...Chakor left him,she divorced him...still he didn't uttered the truth...he was burning inside,seeing her in pain,witnessing his fairytale romance to be doomed in front of his very eyes...still he didn't revealed the truth...you know why???Coz of another Suraj Rajvanshi,trait...EGO AND ATTITUDE...call it his over-confidence,but he is really proud of himself,that he is loved so much by Chakor...his biggest insecurity,"CHAKOR WOULD LEAVE ME SOMEDAY"...his biggest faith or affirmation..."NO MATTER WHAT,CHAKOR WOULD NEVER LEAVE ME"...but his over-confidence and affirmation did break(I am not blaming Chakor here)...SHE DID LEFT HIM...and this is what has hurt Suraj the most coz he himself said that day..."Agar bharosa uska toota hai toh hamaara bhi yakeen toota hai na,hame bhi toh lagta tha,ki woh hame kabhi chhod kar nahi jayegi,par woh chali gayi na.."This is what has left him frustrated,like a child sulks,when something proceeds contrary to its expectations...This ANGER,THIS EGO AND ATTITUDE is what stopping him to still reveal the truth...And at the same time...he is giving up on his responsibilities regarding Imli,which he has taken willfully on him,coz if he retraces his steps back,then it would mean him not owns his words,and as Chakor says...a responsible man isn't supposedly to do thatHe has sacrificed his love,his marriage for an unborn life...coz Chakor had taught him that..."Love is sacrifice"..Regarding Suraj taking Chakor's love for granted,this is what I see it...Sukor relationship is like the relation between creator and creation.Like I say Chakor is the goddess,she has made him what he is.Just as we humans commit hundreds of mistakes,and then expect God to forgive us,embrace us,no matter whatsoever.In the same way Suraj is a sinner,entitled to commit mistakes,and he expects his goddess to accept him.I know a really very unfair demand on his side,but what to do,he is like that only...Like I said,he is the mighty sun,one who rises,one who sets...its he who is responsible for the morning,its he who brings in the night...ONE DAY THAT DONKEY,WILL SURELY REALIZE,HIS MISTAKE AND HE HIMSELF WOULD MAKE EVERY WRONG OF HIS,A RIGHT...At the end I will only request you Sailu...rehne bhi de na yaar,itna bhi kya bura maanna...jo bhi hai,jaisa bhi hai,apna hi Suraj hai..!!!
Agree with ur each wordsOriginally posted by: Banjaaran.
<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">I can't believe i am writing a post defending Suraj. after all my Suraj bashing kaands .. this feels weird but here you go.
It is Cvs fault Sailu. these guys simply have NO clue as to how they should go ahead with Suraj the character.
they wanted an MU and separation. fair enough. after confession the interest of audience and hence the trps goes down. so bringing in separation was logical.
what was NOT logical is the way they went about it.
i am reading lot many beautiful analysis as to why Suraj did whatever he did.
Earlier it was... FOR Chakor. he couldn't see her begging and crying and that she loves Imli and would be heartbroken. NOT for Imli
And then it was FOR his guilt about the how he treated Imli and the rejecting his unborn. Where is Chakor here? we can say because she changed him he is thinking like this. fair enough. but can we say NOW that he is doing it FOR Chakor?
The character himself says.. for chakor one day.
For Imli and the kid's respect other episode.
now he says he is doing it out of guilt. for vivaan and so on.
to cut a long story short.. Cvs messed up.
and it is SO not fair to VJ for it is upto him AGAIN to rescue a character that the makers have got no clue of expressing. or taking it forward.
I see VJ giving his all to salvage the situation. I admire him. and then i see Suraj's scenes with Imli, his terrible dialogues, his horrendous attitude.. and still end up hating Suraj.
Bandua track with all its flaws and faultlines was beautiful in a way for it shaped his character so beautifully. his transformation from boy to a man was done in heartbreakingly beautiful way (if you ignore lot many transgressions here)
and the emotional connect between Suraj and Chakor was priceless.
and then Cvs happened. there was NO need for the touchy feely utterly inappropriate bond between Suraj and Imli after the bandua track.
the bond they shared was sweet and harmless till that point.
now everytime we see them together... we simply don't want to see Suraj with Chakor. Unless Imli gets out of his life... Suraj will NOT shine the way he meant to. he will NOT be accepted. not by trp junta.
what kind of trp audience will want to see BIL and SIL sharing a room together? reasons be damned.
i can't believe CVs didn't foresaw this. and bringing in a new guy who is doing the herogiri that should have been Suraj's right is not fair to the actor who brought alive Suraj. it should have been Suraj's vengeance. HE was wronged. treated so brutally during his bandua phase.
whatever happened to his sood sameet?
he is reduced to ping poing between two girls.
while the lead girl gets to hero work with new hero. i really can't make myself care for Suraj but i still think it is not fair to VJ.
i guess i digressed.
so Suraj's love versus his guilt.
I say it is his pure selfishness. and it will come back to bite him when Imli herself will denounce his mahanta.
if he is guilty for what he did with Imli and the unborn why isn't he feeling too guilty of what he dealt to Chakor by this deed of his?
it is ALL about him. he wants to do what is right by Imli and he still wants Chakor in his life. like how? What will be her status? his wife? his mistress? what will be Imli and her kid's status? Is he really this stupid or plain arrogant or just selfish? i get guilty. then take a stand and stick by it. why ruin another life to assuage you guilt? Chakor's life to be more precise.
he loves Chakor?
i for one will say... she had it easy when he hated her then. Atleast she knew when she stood in his life then.
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Whataver reason your are proving suraj charater is doing everything correctly..bit I couldn't agree that most of ur points.how could u give justice for suraj character that he is doing correctly...i can agree that she only manipulate him as good man.she is only brought up suraj's goodness and his behaviour..infront of everyone best example suraj realized his mistakes whataver he did in his life ..that was his best redemption 😛I am really not proving that whatever is Suraj doing,he is right,focus on my words Sailu..."whatever he is doing,HIS WAY OF DOING IS WRONG,HIS ACTIONS,HIS DECISIONS ARE WRONG,BUT HE IS NOT WRONG,...I agree that he is not right,,,,only I wanna prove is that,"SURAJ BURA HAI,PAR ITNA BHI BURA NAHI,JITNA SAB KEHTE HAIN..."@bold red..what are you talking about his love..why do so much proud about his love..i will proud of him if he understand her insecurity..how could suraj kept faith with her.?.i can't believe this suraj is doing everything for her faith..suraj should know that before chakor will leave if he announce he is a father of Imli 's .child..after knowing only he clearly announced that.. 😛infront of everyone.. you are giving so many reason to prove suraj is doing everything justice..which wife will be faith with her husband after announce he is father of sister child?? ...so ridiculous 😛.. you are talking about that..but one thing suraj well know that her insecure feeling ..becoz chakor had given so many explanation about her insecure feeling with suraj when she was drunken..stage..😭..but suraj should understand her feelings..how she will believe him that he is the one only announced that him self he is father of sister child...as well as he chossed her sister more than her..😛I said that its an unfair demand on his side,that he wants her to stay with him,after he openly confessess of infidelity...but at heart he knows,he is not wrong,that is why demanding it..!!!and About Chakor's insecuruty-tell me which wife insecure of another woman would ask her to take care of her hubby when she is not around,like Chakor had said to Imli to take care of Suraj when she was leaving for mumbai...And regarding Suraj,this is what he wants from Chakor..."Give me your hatred,I will bear it,dont talk to me,I will endure it...give me any other punishment of your choice,but JUST DONT LEAVE ME...!!!"But pls rabia don't talk about suraj is loving chakor madly really magically..it's not possible in the world suraj is standing way for her sister but you are talking about faith and cofidence(One question what decision will u take if it happen in ur real life ???) Iam not not hurting youNo you are not hurting me...if it happens in real life with me...I cant say that as I dont know how it feels to love,how it feels to be loved,or how it feels to be betrayed...but one thing is for sure,if I really love someone,the relation is more important to me more than anything,,,there have been many instanced in my life where I have to keeping aside my self-respect and attitude at bay for the sake of my relation with that person,for my love for that person...@bold greenI agree that love is sacrfice ..chakor taught him how to be good human infront of villagers? how to be strong infront of enemies.how to be sacrfice his life for other..but chakor didn't teach him that he would sacrfice her for her sister 😉😆..that's not humanity..i would have appreciate suraj if suraj supposed sacrfied his life for villagers and poor people..but he is sarficing his wife for her sister...and sister child..this is not a logic .iam asking one question if vivan didn't find that truth his life long that he is is not impotoent. Until life long he is thinking that he is continuesoly that he is saving imli like way .😕..what are u talking? ?chakor is just brought up suraj 's goodness and humanity.. but she didn't tell him that he would sacrfice her..what an logic..really senseless and meaningless 😛It Happens Sailu,sometimes a wrong of one person,becomes a right for other...thats it,no one is to be blamed hereHe didn't give most priority to chakor..but how can he respect chakor's lessons..really pathetic..iam really headeche..🤢Sailu...this one is a filmy dialogue..."Its easier to choose between wrong and right,but difficult to choose the more right between two rights'this is what Suraj's fault,he chose the less right between two rights,his responsibility towards Imli,can really not lessen his love,his respect and his priority towards Chakor...Ian not supporting chakor..bur iam hating currently scene..i can't t give ant justified to suraj character..but rabia I also like suraj character..but I can't stand for him now 😛I am equally supporting both Sukor,for me they both are right as well as at fault in their ways,but Sailu,its just a bad phase in his life,it shall too pass.We Suraj fans have loved him when he was at his worst,now when he is has done the most nobel act of his life,how can we hate him.I how he had done it at the cost of his love,but,he will win it over yaar...I am saying it,how can we Suraj fans leave him alone in the bad phase of his character,is'nt it unfair.He really does not deserve it...not this much at least.Remember the good times yaar...apna hi Suraj haiIam so tired 😉😆Even I am tired,tired of defending him,tired of fighting for him...It really pains to see the character being subjected to such negativities,whom I love so much...Suraj is really not worth of such curses,he is really not worth it
What is a suraj fault?/.. now everyone are also suffering only his fault .. now chaor also loses her life only for his fault.. any way... I can never ever stand for suraj in this matter.. do u know what before I was standing for suraj when suraj was evil and bad man.. but no way .. I can't give any justification for suraj ..🤢
Iam so tired and taking about that.. but really fedup.. cv should change his behavior soon😛