Suraj's Love Vs Suraj's Guilty...

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Thanks for this post! Rabia

Wow rabia.. no words..mindblowing😃..ur post superb👏 thank u much rabia you are giving wonderful answer to my question😛...but I agreeing that..but i will post that another topic the heading the love &guilty..the love &guilty..suraj may have a softcorner on imli..he may be guilty for whatever he did for imli in previous ..but rabia this is not exact time to show his guilty feel..😛

Agree that suraj did wrong for imli..but imli was a main responsible in that accidental first pregnancy .i agree as girl especially disrespecting from others.. I know how it must have been feeling.in society as woman.😕

But this is not a right way ...rabia..i do agree that suraj made pregenant wife sister's before marriage .afterthat..he thought to get back in his life. He realized his mistakes..he asked apology with her...so he felt to reach her ..but later he decently moved that if his lover imli loved her husband vivan sincerely..that's decent full love..the chapter and guilty closed from first bachuva time and first love. 😛

How can he show his guilty every time with her?..whenver she get pregenant .?😉.it can't be human being rabia.. I do agree that before he didn't love chakor..and he didn't much interest her ..but now suraj-chakor position are difference..their love is not normal life..becoz suraj got many tortured and punished from his own father..so every time chakor was standing for him... as well a she gave most priority to her husband more than her parents ,relations and even villagers...so they had developed love eachother madly.. not like their first infatuation..they were understanding eachother as loving couple..as well they were caring eachother ..they were standing together whenever they got trouble from kn..best example their banduva period.best example suraj broken his iron chain for her and he won kabadi for chakor in mahasivaratri.😛

But now i am not still not believing suraj is supporting imli more than chakor...i am still not believe my eyes..sometime I also asking my self questions.. about suraj character 😛

Iam talking about love not guilty...i mean now iam talking about true love ...becoz we are looking sukor as ideal couple. we are involving too much in this pair...😛

Rabia one thing don't take much issue about Suraj's guilty.. becoz suraj should choose his love life chakor more than (guilty) imli..becoz..guily is just the feelings of human part ..that's not whole thing..love is a difference & guilty is a difference..if real man that he should choose his love more than guilty..chakor is not only wife his life..which husband will be looking everything until wife separation from him...which husband's will be looking until wife removed mangalsutra and sindoor ..it's not a possible in human life 😛

..but you can simply tells that he is feeling deeply guilty for imli..i can't agreed that..becoz he is thinking that he can console anytime his wife .so he is playing her feelings so much..but now at the momeny he is important imli and her child he maybe saviour of imli and her child...we can't give so called guilty ..becoz I can never agree that suraj selected guilty more than his love. But right reason is tha..he has obsessed with her ex lover..more than his wife.. he is to much loving his lover more than wife .i can't agree and can't give stupid explanation about guilty ..if suraj has guilty feeling with imli..he has so many ways to show his guilty..this not a path..becoz this (chakor)is his entire life...becoz..this(chakor ) is his family..but how could He compared imli more than his wife..😡

.but sorry dear you are post very suberb you are doing wonderful analyse but I would see Suraj love only chakor..i don't want see any stupid reason to suraj staying with imli...and helping for her😛


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Listen Sailu...Suraj loves Chakor,and only her,totally madly,crazily..and this is not really a topic to be discussed.
Coming,to the main point...Suraj announced himself guilty,in a very vulnerable situation,and at that moment he had indeed took the decision for Chakor...(see the 3rd may episode,and you will know what I am trying to say).
Imli was in such a condition,that only a MAN was needed for her,coz the until then,everyone was blaming only her,the moment he came forward,all the focus shifted on him...and he silently bore everything..
After that,when he came home without her,he would have told everything to Chakor...HAD HE BELIEVED THAT SHE WOULD SUPPORT HIM IN IT...coz we all know,that Chakor had never ever supported him in his decisions...he is right or not is a different thing,I am talking about Chakor's distrust on Suraj's decisions...
Chakor left him,she divorced him...still he didn't uttered the truth...he was burning inside,seeing her in pain,witnessing his fairytale romance to be doomed in front of his very eyes...still he didn't revealed the truth...you know why???
Coz of another Suraj Rajvanshi,trait...EGO AND ATTITUDE...

call it his over-confidence,but he is really proud of himself,that he is loved so much by Chakor...his biggest insecurity,"CHAKOR WOULD LEAVE ME SOMEDAY"...his biggest faith or affirmation..."NO MATTER WHAT,CHAKOR WOULD NEVER LEAVE ME"...
but his over-confidence and affirmation did break(I am not blaming Chakor here)...SHE DID LEFT HIM...and this is what has hurt Suraj the most coz he himself said that day..."Agar bharosa uska toota hai toh hamaara bhi yakeen toota hai na,hame bhi toh lagta tha,ki woh hame kabhi chhod kar nahi jayegi,par woh chali gayi na.."
This is what has left him frustrated,like a child sulks,when something proceeds contrary to its expectations...
This ANGER,THIS EGO AND ATTITUDE is what stopping him to still reveal the truth...
And at the same time...he is giving up on his responsibilities regarding Imli,which he has taken willfully on him,coz if he retraces his steps back,then it would mean him not owns his words,and as Chakor says...a responsible man isn't supposedly to do that
He has sacrificed his love,his marriage for an unborn life...coz Chakor had taught him that..."Love is sacrifice"..


Regarding Suraj taking Chakor's love for granted,this is what I see it...
Sukor relationship is like the relation between creator and creation.Like I say Chakor is the goddess,she has made him what he is.
Just as we humans commit hundreds of mistakes,and then expect God to forgive us,embrace us,no matter whatsoever.In the same way Suraj is a sinner,entitled to commit mistakes,and he expects his goddess to accept him.
I know a really very unfair demand on his side,but what to do,he is like that only...


Like I said,he is the mighty sun,one who rises,one who sets...its he who is responsible for the morning,its he who brings in the night...
ONE DAY THAT DONKEY,WILL SURELY REALIZE,HIS MISTAKE AND HE HIMSELF WOULD MAKE EVERY WRONG OF HIS,A RIGHT...

At the end I will only request you Sailu...rehne bhi de na yaar,itna bhi kya bura maanna...jo bhi hai,jaisa bhi hai,apna hi Suraj hai..!!!


Edited by KUTUR - 8 years ago
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I can't believe i am writing a post defending Suraj. after all my Suraj bashing kaands .. this feels weird but here you go.

It is Cvs fault Sailu. these guys simply have NO clue as to how they should go ahead with Suraj the character.
they wanted an MU and separation. fair enough. after confession the interest of audience and hence the trps goes down. so bringing in separation was logical.
what was NOT logical is the way they went about it.

i am reading lot many beautiful analysis as to why Suraj did whatever he did.
Earlier it was... FOR Chakor. he couldn't see her begging and crying and that she loves Imli and would be heartbroken. NOT for Imli

And then it was FOR his guilt about the how he treated Imli and the rejecting his unborn. Where is Chakor here? we can say because she changed him he is thinking like this. fair enough. but can we say NOW that he is doing it FOR Chakor?

The character himself says.. for chakor one day.
For Imli and the kid's respect other episode.
now he says he is doing it out of guilt. for vivaan and so on.

to cut a long story short.. Cvs messed up.

and it is SO not fair to VJ for it is upto him AGAIN to rescue a character that the makers have got no clue of expressing. or taking it forward.
I see VJ giving his all to salvage the situation. I admire him. and then i see Suraj's scenes with Imli, his terrible dialogues, his horrendous attitude.. and still end up hating Suraj.

Bandua track with all its flaws and faultlines was beautiful in a way for it shaped his character so beautifully. his transformation from boy to a man was done in heartbreakingly beautiful way (if you ignore lot many transgressions here)
and the emotional connect between Suraj and Chakor was priceless.

and then Cvs happened. there was NO need for the touchy feely utterly inappropriate bond between Suraj and Imli after the bandua track.
the bond they shared was sweet and harmless till that point.

now everytime we see them together... we simply don't want to see Suraj with Chakor. Unless Imli gets out of his life... Suraj will NOT shine the way he meant to. he will NOT be accepted. not by trp junta.
what kind of trp audience will want to see BIL and SIL sharing a room together? reasons be damned.

i can't believe CVs didn't foresaw this. and bringing in a new guy who is doing the herogiri that should have been Suraj's right is not fair to the actor who brought alive Suraj. it should have been Suraj's vengeance. HE was wronged. treated so brutally during his bandua phase.
whatever happened to his sood sameet?
he is reduced to ping poing between two girls.
while the lead girl gets to hero work with new hero. i really can't make myself care for Suraj but i still think it is not fair to VJ.

i guess i digressed.
so Suraj's love versus his guilt.

I say it is his pure selfishness. and it will come back to bite him when Imli herself will denounce his mahanta.
if he is guilty for what he did with Imli and the unborn why isn't he feeling too guilty of what he dealt to Chakor by this deed of his?
it is ALL about him. he wants to do what is right by Imli and he still wants Chakor in his life. like how? What will be her status? his wife? his mistress? what will be Imli and her kid's status? Is he really this stupid or plain arrogant or just selfish? i get guilty. then take a stand and stick by it. why ruin another life to assuage you guilt? Chakor's life to be more precise.

he loves Chakor?
i for one will say... she had it easy when he hated her then. Atleast she knew when she stood in his life then.



Edited by Banjaaran. - 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Banjaaran.

I can't believe i am writing a post defending Suraj. after all my Suraj bashing kaands .. this feels weird but here you go.

It is Cvs fault Sailu. these guys simply have NO clue as to how they should go ahead with Suraj the character.
they wanted an MU and separation. fair enough. after confession the interest of audience and hence the trps goes down. so bringing in separation was logical.
what was NOT logical is the way they went about it.

i am reading lot many beautiful analysis as to why Suraj did whatever he did.
Earlier it was... FOR Chakor. he couldn't see her begging and crying and that she loves Imli and would be heartbroken. NOT for Imli

And then it was FOR his guilt about the how he treated Imli and the rejecting his unborn. Where is Chakor here? we can say because she changed him he is thinking like this. fair enough. but can we say NOW that he is doing it FOR Chakor?

The character himself says.. for chakor one day.
For Imli and the kid's respect other episode.
now he says he is doing it out of guilt. for vivaan and so on.

to cut a long story short.. Cvs messed up.

and it is SO not fair to VJ for it is upto him AGAIN to rescue a character that the makers have got no clue of expressing. or taking it forward.
I see VJ giving his all to salvage the situation. I admire him. and then i see Suraj's scenes with Imli, his terrible dialogues, his horrendous attitude.. and still end up hating Suraj.

Bandua track with all its flaws and faultlines was beautiful in a way for it shaped his character so beautifully. his transformation from boy to a man was done in heartbreakingly beautiful way (if you ignore lot many transgressions here)
and the emotional connect between Suraj and Chakor was priceless.

and then Cvs happened. there was NO need for the touchy feely utterly inappropriate bond between Suraj and Imli after the bandua track.
the bond they shared was sweet and harmless till that point.

now everytime we see them together... we simply don't want to see Suraj with Chakor. Unless Imli gets out of his life... Suraj will NOT shine the way he meant to. he will NOT be accepted. not by trp junta.
what kind of trp audience will want to see BIL and SIL sharing a room together? reasons be damned.

i can't believe CVs didn't foresaw this. and bringing in a new guy who is doing the herogiri that should have been Suraj's right is not fair to the actor who brought alive Suraj. it should have been Suraj's vengeance. HE was wronged. treated so brutally during his bandua phase.
whatever happened to his sood sameet?
he is reduced to ping poing between two girls.
while the lead girl gets to hero work with new hero. i really can't make myself care for Suraj but i still think it is not fair to VJ.

i guess i digressed.
so Suraj's love versus his guilt.

I say it is his pure selfishness. and it will come back to bite him when Imli herself will denounce his mahanta.
if he is guilty for what he did with Imli and the unborn why isn't he feeling too guilty of what he dealt to Chakor by this deed of his?
it is ALL about him. he wants to do what is right by Imli and he still wants Chakor in his life. like how? What will be her status? his wife? his mistress? what will be Imli and her kid's status? Is he really this stupid or plain arrogant or just selfish? i get guilty. then take a stand and stick by it. why ruin another life to assuage you guilt? Chakor's life to be more precise.

he loves Chakor?
i for one will say... she had it easy when he hated her then. Atleast she knew when she stood in his life then.



Y agree that nimmi it is cv fault😛 what can we do us??cv who doesn't have sense and manner..iam really doubt full that about director who is writing the story..i think he may be new experience in the television industry..firstime I seeing cv is butchering hero more and more in serial.😡iam really couldn't see suraj in his state who is convincing and every time proving his loyality with wife for stupid reason ..vj is excellent and nature actor we are impression only.his strong character.how would he be strong previous..?.his acting, voice modulation and his tricks.all were very impressively..but now so disappointed we thought sukor will join hands together and will fly flight together..but now chakor believes new inspector more than him.😛.

But poor chako who gave more priority to him than her parents and her career...but she is sincerely loving him and madly today episode suraj fainted on the road...chako r suddenly went and look him whether he is fine or not..that's true love..but chakor love is very previous..suraj is very unlucky to miss chako r..but he is thinking that chakor is just like a tv game..he is thinking that any time can play with her..that's confidence only suraj is still supporting imli.but one thing..cv should teach great love lesson to him...chakor is not a toy..she is also human...she has feelings..but sura j is too much overreacting..still no he is ready to let iml for any reason😡but he is chanting his stupid love with chakor..but one thing chako r would ask question with him..I will forgive I don't care imliI is keeping .ur child her womb..but can u come with me left imli in this situation??she would ask him in this way..then only we can see suraj's real love??😉😆
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Frankly speaking sailu... I dunno. But all things said and done... Got to hand it to him Suraj as a character brings lot of colorful discussion around. Be it bashing or defending. Analyzing or criticizing. I may not concur with some views, be in sync with others.. But overall its makes me think, analyze, appreciate or debate. And end of the day though i may have moved on from suraj i still wish the best for VJ. And in my honest opinion Suraj the character is really doing disservice to Vj the actor. My heartfelt apologies if i offended suraj and Vj fans by this opinion and statement of mine.
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Originally posted by: KUTUR

Listen Sailu...Suraj loves Chakor,and only her,totally madly,crazily..and this is not really a topic to be discussed.

Coming,to the main point...Suraj announced himself guilty,in a very vulnerable situation,and at that moment he had indeed took the decision for Chakor...(see the 3rd may episode,and you will know what I am trying to say).
Imli was in such a condition,that only a MAN was needed for her,coz the until then,everyone was blaming only her,the moment he came forward,all the focus shifted on him...and he silently bore everything..
After that,when he came home without her,he would have told everything to Chakor...HAD HE BELIEVED THAT SHE WOULD SUPPORT HIM IN IT...coz we all know,that Chakor had never ever supported him in his decisions...he is right or not is a different thing,I am talking about Chakor's distrust on Suraj's decisions...
Chakor left him,she divorced him...still he didn't uttered the truth...he was burning inside,seeing her in pain,witnessing his fairytale romance to be doomed in front of his very eyes...still he didn't revealed the truth...you know why???
Coz of another Suraj Rajvanshi,trait...EGO AND ATTITUDE...

call it his over-confidence,but he is really proud of himself,that he is loved so much by Chakor...his biggest insecurity,"CHAKOR WOULD LEAVE ME SOMEDAY"...his biggest faith or affirmation..."NO MATTER WHAT,CHAKOR WOULD NEVER LEAVE ME"...
but his over-confidence and affirmation did break(I am not blaming Chakor here)...SHE DID LEFT HIM...and this is what has hurt Suraj the most coz he himself said that day..."Agar bharosa uska toota hai toh hamaara bhi yakeen toota hai na,hame bhi toh lagta tha,ki woh hame kabhi chhod kar nahi jayegi,par woh chali gayi na.."
This is what has left him frustrated,like a child sulks,when something proceeds contrary to its expectations...
This ANGER,THIS EGO AND ATTITUDE is what stopping him to still reveal the truth...
And at the same time...he is giving up on his responsibilities regarding Imli,which he has taken willfully on him,coz if he retraces his steps back,then it would mean him not owns his words,and as Chakor says...a responsible man isn't supposedly to do that
He has sacrificed his love,his marriage for an unborn life...coz Chakor had taught him that..."Love is sacrifice"..


Regarding Suraj taking Chakor's love for granted,this is what I see it...
Sukor relationship is like the relation between creator and creation.Like I say Chakor is the goddess,she has made him what he is.
Just as we humans commit hundreds of mistakes,and then expect God to forgive us,embrace us,no matter whatsoever.In the same way Suraj is a sinner,entitled to commit mistakes,and he expects his goddess to accept him.
I know a really very unfair demand on his side,but what to do,he is like that only...


Like I said,he is the mighty sun,one who rises,one who sets...its he who is responsible for the morning,its he who brings in the night...
ONE DAY THAT DONKEY,WILL SURELY REALIZE,HIS MISTAKE AND HE HIMSELF WOULD MAKE EVERY WRONG OF HIS,A RIGHT...

At the end I will only request you Sailu...rehne bhi de na yaar,itna bhi kya bura maanna...jo bhi hai,jaisa bhi hai,apna hi Suraj hai..!!!



Whataver reason your are proving suraj charater is doing everything correctly..bit I couldn't agree that most of ur points.how could u give justice for suraj character that he is doing correctly...i can agree that she only manipulate him as good man.she is only brought up suraj's goodness and his behaviour..infront of everyone best example suraj realized his mistakes whataver he did in his life ..that was his best redemption 😛

@bold red..what are you talking about his love..why do so much proud about his love..i will proud of him if he understand her insecurity..how could suraj kept faith with her.?.i can't believe this suraj is doing everything for her faith..suraj should know that before chakor will leave if he announce he is a father of Imli 's .child..after knowing only he clearly announced that.. 😛infront of everyone.. you are giving so many reason to prove suraj is doing everything justice..which wife will be faith with her husband after announce he is father of sister child?? ...so ridiculous 😛.. you are talking about that..but one thing suraj well know that her insecure feeling ..becoz chakor had given so many explanation about her insecure feeling with suraj when she was drunken..stage..😭..but suraj should understand her feelings..how she will believe him that he is the one only announced that him self he is father of sister child...as well as he chossed her sister more than her..😛

But pls rabia don't talk about suraj is loving chakor madly really magically..it's not possible in the world suraj is standing way for her sister but you are talking about faith and cofidence
(One question what decision will u take if it happen in ur real life ???) Iam not not hurting you


@bold green

I agree that love is sacrfice ..chakor taught him how to be good human infront of villagers? how to be strong infront of enemies.how to be sacrfice his life for other..but chakor didn't teach him that he would sacrfice her for her sister 😉😆..that's not humanity..i would have appreciate suraj if suraj supposed sacrfied his life for villagers and poor people..but he is sarficing his wife for her sister...and sister child..this is not a logic .iam asking one question if vivan didn't find that truth his life long that he is is not impotoent. Until life long he is thinking that he is continuesoly that he is saving imli like way .😕..what are u talking? ?chakor is just brought up suraj 's goodness and humanity.. but she didn't tell him that he would sacrfice her..what an logic..really senseless and meaningless 😛
He didn't give most priority to chakor..but how can he respect chakor's lessons..really pathetic..iam really headeche..🤢

Ian not supporting chakor..bur iam hating currently scene..i can't t give ant justified to suraj character..but rabia I also like suraj character..but I can't stand for him now 😛

Iam so tired 😉😆

Edited by sailuja - 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Banjaaran.

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">I can't believe i am writing a post defending Suraj. after all my Suraj bashing kaands .. this feels weird but here you go.

It is Cvs fault Sailu. these guys simply have NO clue as to how they should go ahead with Suraj the character.
they wanted an MU and separation. fair enough. after confession the interest of audience and hence the trps goes down. so bringing in separation was logical.
what was NOT logical is the way they went about it.

i am reading lot many beautiful analysis as to why Suraj did whatever he did.
Earlier it was... FOR Chakor. he couldn't see her begging and crying and that she loves Imli and would be heartbroken. NOT for Imli

And then it was FOR his guilt about the how he treated Imli and the rejecting his unborn. Where is Chakor here? we can say because she changed him he is thinking like this. fair enough. but can we say NOW that he is doing it FOR Chakor?

The character himself says.. for chakor one day.
For Imli and the kid's respect other episode.
now he says he is doing it out of guilt. for vivaan and so on.

to cut a long story short.. Cvs messed up.

and it is SO not fair to VJ for it is upto him AGAIN to rescue a character that the makers have got no clue of expressing. or taking it forward.
I see VJ giving his all to salvage the situation. I admire him. and then i see Suraj's scenes with Imli, his terrible dialogues, his horrendous attitude.. and still end up hating Suraj.

Bandua track with all its flaws and faultlines was beautiful in a way for it shaped his character so beautifully. his transformation from boy to a man was done in heartbreakingly beautiful way (if you ignore lot many transgressions here)
and the emotional connect between Suraj and Chakor was priceless.

and then Cvs happened. there was NO need for the touchy feely utterly inappropriate bond between Suraj and Imli after the bandua track.
the bond they shared was sweet and harmless till that point.

now everytime we see them together... we simply don't want to see Suraj with Chakor. Unless Imli gets out of his life... Suraj will NOT shine the way he meant to. he will NOT be accepted. not by trp junta.
what kind of trp audience will want to see BIL and SIL sharing a room together? reasons be damned.

i can't believe CVs didn't foresaw this. and bringing in a new guy who is doing the herogiri that should have been Suraj's right is not fair to the actor who brought alive Suraj. it should have been Suraj's vengeance. HE was wronged. treated so brutally during his bandua phase.
whatever happened to his sood sameet?
he is reduced to ping poing between two girls.
while the lead girl gets to hero work with new hero. i really can't make myself care for Suraj but i still think it is not fair to VJ.

i guess i digressed.
so Suraj's love versus his guilt.

I say it is his pure selfishness. and it will come back to bite him when Imli herself will denounce his mahanta.
if he is guilty for what he did with Imli and the unborn why isn't he feeling too guilty of what he dealt to Chakor by this deed of his?
it is ALL about him. he wants to do what is right by Imli and he still wants Chakor in his life. like how? What will be her status? his wife? his mistress? what will be Imli and her kid's status? Is he really this stupid or plain arrogant or just selfish? i get guilty. then take a stand and stick by it. why ruin another life to assuage you guilt? Chakor's life to be more precise.

he loves Chakor?
i for one will say... she had it easy when he hated her then. Atleast she knew when she stood in his life then.
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Agree with ur each words
And the vengeance thing . Yeah it was sooo unfair to suraj anf suraj lovers f ajay and chalor help villagers free from bandhuvagiri wen we all dreamed that t wud be suraj and chakor doing the work . Wat abt his warning to KN wen his men degraded and insulted chakor n makarsankranti . Moreover he s the rajvanshi and the hero it s his right to defeat KN if chakor also support him I don't care . I wish cbs give Ajay Ragini and vivan and Suraj tje main villain Kn to deal with
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Originally posted by: sailuja


Whataver reason your are proving suraj charater is doing everything correctly..bit I couldn't agree that most of ur points.how could u give justice for suraj character that he is doing correctly...i can agree that she only manipulate him as good man.she is only brought up suraj's goodness and his behaviour..infront of everyone best example suraj realized his mistakes whataver he did in his life ..that was his best redemption 😛

I am really not proving that whatever is Suraj doing,he is right,focus on my words Sailu..."whatever he is doing,HIS WAY OF DOING IS WRONG,HIS ACTIONS,HIS DECISIONS ARE WRONG,BUT HE IS NOT WRONG,...
I agree that he is not right,,,,only I wanna prove is that,"SURAJ BURA HAI,PAR ITNA BHI BURA NAHI,JITNA SAB KEHTE HAIN..."

@bold red..what are you talking about his love..why do so much proud about his love..i will proud of him if he understand her insecurity..how could suraj kept faith with her.?.i can't believe this suraj is doing everything for her faith..suraj should know that before chakor will leave if he announce he is a father of Imli 's .child..after knowing only he clearly announced that.. 😛infront of everyone.. you are giving so many reason to prove suraj is doing everything justice..which wife will be faith with her husband after announce he is father of sister child?? ...so ridiculous 😛.. you are talking about that..but one thing suraj well know that her insecure feeling ..becoz chakor had given so many explanation about her insecure feeling with suraj when she was drunken..stage..😭..but suraj should understand her feelings..how she will believe him that he is the one only announced that him self he is father of sister child...as well as he chossed her sister more than her..😛

I said that its an unfair demand on his side,that he wants her to stay with him,after he openly confessess of infidelity...but at heart he knows,he is not wrong,that is why demanding it..!!!
and About Chakor's insecuruty-tell me which wife insecure of another woman would ask her to take care of her hubby when she is not around,like Chakor had said to Imli to take care of Suraj when she was leaving for mumbai...
And regarding Suraj,this is what he wants from Chakor..."Give me your hatred,I will bear it,dont talk to me,I will endure it...give me any other punishment of your choice,but JUST DONT LEAVE ME...!!!"


But pls rabia don't talk about suraj is loving chakor madly really magically..it's not possible in the world suraj is standing way for her sister but you are talking about faith and cofidence
(One question what decision will u take if it happen in ur real life ???) Iam not not hurting you

No you are not hurting me...
if it happens in real life with me...I cant say that as I dont know how it feels to love,how it feels to be loved,or how it feels to be betrayed...
but one thing is for sure,if I really love someone,the relation is more important to me more than anything,,,there have been many instanced in my life where I have to keeping aside my self-respect and attitude at bay for the sake of my relation with that person,for my love for that person...



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I agree that love is sacrfice ..chakor taught him how to be good human infront of villagers? how to be strong infront of enemies.how to be sacrfice his life for other..but chakor didn't teach him that he would sacrfice her for her sister 😉😆..that's not humanity..i would have appreciate suraj if suraj supposed sacrfied his life for villagers and poor people..but he is sarficing his wife for her sister...and sister child..this is not a logic .iam asking one question if vivan didn't find that truth his life long that he is is not impotoent. Until life long he is thinking that he is continuesoly that he is saving imli like way .😕..what are u talking? ?chakor is just brought up suraj 's goodness and humanity.. but she didn't tell him that he would sacrfice her..what an logic..really senseless and meaningless 😛

It Happens Sailu,sometimes a wrong of one person,becomes a right for other...thats it,no one is to be blamed here



He didn't give most priority to chakor..but how can he respect chakor's lessons..really pathetic..iam really headeche..🤢

Sailu...this one is a filmy dialogue..."Its easier to choose between wrong and right,but difficult to choose the more right between two rights'
this is what Suraj's fault,he chose the less right between two rights,his responsibility towards Imli,can really not lessen his love,his respect and his priority towards Chakor...

Ian not supporting chakor..bur iam hating currently scene..i can't t give ant justified to suraj character..but rabia I also like suraj character..but I can't stand for him now 😛

I am equally supporting both Sukor,for me they both are right as well as at fault in their ways,but Sailu,its just a bad phase in his life,it shall too pass.
We Suraj fans have loved him when he was at his worst,now when he is has done the most nobel act of his life,how can we hate him.I how he had done it at the cost of his love,but,he will win it over yaar...
I am saying it,how can we Suraj fans leave him alone in the bad phase of his character,is'nt it unfair.
He really does not deserve it...not this much at least.
Remember the good times yaar...apna hi Suraj hai

Iam so tired 😉😆

Even I am tired,tired of defending him,tired of fighting for him...
It really pains to see the character being subjected to such negativities,whom I love so much...
Suraj is really not worth of such curses,he is really not worth it

Edited by KUTUR - 8 years ago
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Whataver reason your are proving suraj charater is doing everything correctly..bit I couldn't agree that most of ur points.how could u give justice for suraj character that he is doing correctly...i can agree that she only manipulate him as good man.she is only brought up suraj's goodness and his behaviour..infront of everyone best example suraj realized his mistakes whataver he did in his life ..that was his best redemption 😛

I am really not proving that whatever is Suraj doing,he is right,focus on my words Sailu..."whatever he is doing,HIS WAY OF DOING IS WRONG,HIS ACTIONS,HIS DECISIONS ARE WRONG,BUT HE IS NOT WRONG,...
I agree that he is not right,,,,only I wanna prove is that,"SURAJ BURA HAI,PAR ITNA BHI BURA NAHI,JITNA SAB KEHTE HAIN..."

Whatever u are telling. I can't accept it.. it's your pov you are demonstrating that suraj is doing right..you are telling that he is not wrong.. but he is going / doing way immoral 😛...

I said that its an unfair demand on his side,that he wants her to stay with him,after he openly confessess of infidelity...but at heart he knows,he is not wrong,that is why demanding it..!!!
and About Chakor's insecuruty-tell me which wife insecure of another woman would ask her to take care of her hubby when she is not around,like Chakor had said to Imli to take care of Suraj when she was leaving for mumbai...
And regarding Suraj,this is what he wants from Chakor..."Give me your hatred,I will bear it,dont talk to me,I will endure it...give me any other punishment of your choice,but JUST DONT LEAVE ME...!!!"

I don't really understand what way you re talking.. how can chakor stay with him??.. how can he give his priority to both girls ..it's not possible.in marriage life . Absurd point iam feeling bad for chakor as woman .. he is giving important to her siter like her how could chakor bear as wife..
No you are not hurting me...
if it happens in real life with me...I cant say that as I dont know how it feels to love,how it feels to be loved,or how it feels to be betrayed...
but one thing is for sure,if I really love someone,the relation is more important to me more than anything,,,there have been many instanced in my life where I have to keeping aside my self-respect and attitude at bay for the sake of my relation with that person,for my love for that person...



You are telling relation is very significant.. I do agree that relation is a very important .. but wife is most central others ..wow my god rabia I can't bileves this your are giving this answer ,, you will surrender all craps for ur love only.. but I can agree that wife can manage husband whatever position/stage if he is in .. but husband is telling himself he affairs with her sister and he is father of her child ..will you agree that same way? Will u appreciate ur husband in same way ?😛 😲

It Happens Sailu,sometimes a wrong of one person,becomes a right for other...thats it,no one is to be blamed here



He didn't give most priority to chakor..but how can he respect chakor's lessons..really pathetic..iam really headeche..🤢

Sailu...this one is a filmy dialogue..."Its easier to choose between wrong and right,but difficult to choose the more right between two rights'
this is what Suraj's fault,he chose the less right between two rights,his responsibility towards Imli,can really not lessen his love,his respect and his priority towards Chakor...

Really pathetic answer.. I don't know which way are u satficing in ur life that's ur wisseself respect is very important rabia ,, two people only have been involved in marriage life not a 3rdperson...love s is a priceless .. love & life are relating two person only husnad & wife ..😛

I am equally supporting both Sukor,for me they both are right as well as at fault in their ways,but Sailu,its just a bad phase in his life,it shall too pass.
We Suraj fans have loved him when he was at his worst,now when he is has done the most nobel act of his life,how can we hate him.I how he had done it at the cost of his love,but,he will win it over yaar...
I am saying it,how can we Suraj fans leave him alone in the bad phase of his character,is'nt it unfair.
He really does not deserve it...not this much at least.
Remember the good times yaar...apna hi Suraj hai

What is a suraj fault?/.. now everyone are also suffering only his fault .. now chaor also loses her life only for his fault.. any way... I can never ever stand for suraj in this matter.. do u know what before I was standing for suraj when suraj was evil and bad man.. but no way .. I can't give any justification for suraj ..🤢

Iam so tired and taking about that.. but really fedup.. cv should change his behavior soon😛



Even I am tired,tired of defending him,tired of fighting for him...
It really pains to see the character being subjected to such negativities,whom I love so much...
Suraj is really not worth of such curses,he is really not worth it

Edited by sailuja - 8 years ago
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Only the truth of Vivaan's reports can clear the situation. Chakor won't believe Suraj if he tells her the truth now. Leaving Imli now will make Suraj fall even lower in Chakor's eyes. So Suraj will not leave Imli until the truth comes out.

Chakor already thinks so low of Suraj, she believes he's the same goon she first met when she came back. She believed Vivaan and Ragini when they said that Suraj knew of the trap they set for the villagers. She won't believe him if he said he isn't the father. She'll think he's doing exactly what he did with the first baby or that he's lying to get her back. She'll despise him more.

If Suraj just abandons Imli, Chakor will hate him even more. She'll think he is a man who can neither take responsibility for his actions nor stand by his words. It will leave Imli helpless and increase the gap between him and Chakor. He shouldn't leave Imli, he made that decision voluntarily and her fate shouldn't depend on his whims especially if it will only worsen his problems with Chakor

Even if Suraj told her the truth while drunk and she believed him, she may stop hating him but they won't be back together until the baby matter is cleared because in front of the world she'll be the woman who stayed with a man who betrayed her with her sister and because nobody will believe them when he goes back on his words.

Suraj is stuck, all his efforts are useless, so why do they choose to show him trying to win her back using the same broken record. My guess is they need sukor scenes to calm the fans down (remember when there was a rumor VJ will quit), it's also what the trp aunties would want to see, the male lead grovelling. Another reason is if he doesn't do that then we'll say he didn't try to win her back and that he's secretly glad she left.

A better way is for him to find the truth behind the fake reports but in t.v land only the female lead has the right to solve all problems. An example is KN madness, Imli and Suraj are staying in haveli, one of them could've found out but no it has to be Chakor.


Edited by meshmesh - 8 years ago

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