Redemption or cover up?

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Posted: 8 years ago
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So after committing the most heinous crimes like murder and staging an attempt to rape case to frame her own brother in law, all in the name of securing Arjun for herself , now Maya is haunted by the burden of keeping her hands clean of any crime, misdeeds or manipulations... Arjun wants to see the light of hope and goodness in her but her own karma is going to come back to 🤬 her..😊... in the form of Samay.. This ain't a redemption that Maya is seeking.. this is a cover up..her intentions were clear in the text she sent to Samay and then her monologue when she heard about Prem's death..
She said :

Arjun wants to see the goodness in me.. he can't see the wrongs I have done... ( eternally insecure ) - that's a cover up.. She did not instruct Samay to kill Prem per se but she knows what he's capable of and she doesn't care as long as the evidence is destroyed, as indicated in the monologue '' I don't care how many people die, as long as Arjun doesn't leave me''... A person who wants to redeem herself will not say such things''... Maya has not changed...one bit

Looks like creatives want to turn the predator into a prey in the next phase.. Maya, too smart for her own good, has been pulling strings to make people dance to her tunes for way too long.. As expected, Samay has switched gears... he now wants returns, no less than Maya herself.. he knows way too many secrets for Maya to ignore, not when she is so desperate to keep her misdeeds hidden from Arjun.. Perfect setting for blackmail, maybe abduction or even an attempt to murder.. Hope tables turn this time.. If Samay realizes he can not have Maya, he will try to destroy her..

Saanjh and her quest for justice for Ayaan has been going endlessly without any result but Prem's murder might change things. Samay holds the key to both crimes.. he won't care if he goes down..he will take Maya down too.. Where does Arjun fit in here? I have a feeling he will forever support Maya...now with the baby in picture, he is left with little or no choice..

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Agree...Maya is not at all genuine in her attempts to be good...she is simply pretending infront of Arjun
Her thoughts in today's episode when she said that no matter how many people die she will not let Arjun away from her...she doesn't care if people die all she cares about is herself and Arjun.

Now Samay will try to blackmail Maya and Maya used and manipulated an obsessed and crazy man like Samay which is going to come back and biter her.

She is going to get trapped in her own trap.

As far as Arjun is concerned he is going to support Maya but I still feel the day he finds out that Maya did frame Ayaan he is going to repent and if he finds out about Maya's other crimes then he might leave her in my opinion.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: anshvi

Agree...Maya is not at all genuine in her attempts to be good...she is simply pretending infront of Arjun

Her thoughts in today's episode when she said that no matter how many people die she will not let Arjun away from her...she doesn't care if people die all she cares about is herself and Arjun.

Now Samay will try to blackmail Maya and Maya used and manipulated an obsessed and crazy man like Samay which is going to come back and biter her.

She is going to get trapped in her own trap.

As far as Arjun is concerned he is going to support Maya but I still feel the day he finds out that Maya did frame Ayaan he is going to repent and if he finds out about Maya's other crimes then he might leave her in my opinion.



Yes you'd think becoming a mother will change Maya for the better.. if she blames Jhanvi for not being a good mother to her, she is not being a good mother to her baby either.. in a different way.. yeah, maybe she will be protective and reciprocative as a parent but imagine the horror the child will have to live with, if he/she finds out that their own mother had murdered people, lied umpteenth times.. even if we assume that she regrets her past deeds, we can not ignore the fact that she is still willing to harm/kill people to be with Arjun..!

Arjun.. I dunno I have a feeling he knows about Ayaan's case leaving Samay's involvement.. he has strange ways to justify her actions.. and now the baby.. he will not leave her..love or no love.. but seems like the man is in love and its hard for him to dismiss that feeling no matter what she does..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: MistyDawn


Yes you'd think becoming a mother will change Maya for the better.. if she blames Jhanvi for not being a good mother to her, she is not being a good mother to her baby either.. in a different way.. yeah, maybe she will be protective and reciprocative as a parent but imagine the horror the child will have to live with, if he/she finds out that their own mother had murdered people, lied umpteenth times.. even if we assume that she regrets her past deeds, we can not ignore the fact that she is still willing to harm/kill people to be with Arjun..!

Arjun.. I dunno I have a feeling he knows about Ayaan's case leaving Samay's involvement.. he has strange ways to justify her actions.. and now the baby.. he will not leave her..love or no love.. but seems like the man is in love and its hard for him to dismiss that feeling no matter what she does..


I don't know but I feel that he genuinely trusts Maya in attempt to rape case...he knows that Maya is ill but he doesn't think that any woman can stoop to such a low level that she will frame someone of a crime like attempt to rape.

And it has been foreshadowed now so many times that Arjun will leave Maya as he keeps saying that if maya goes on the bad side then she will not find Arjun there.

I do think that if Arjun finds out that Maya has commited crimes and did frame Ayaan then he will not be able to forgive her as well as himself for not trusting his family.

He does love Maya but I think in phase 3 there will be a separation between Maya and Arjun.

Also Maya earlier said that she will give Arjun another chance and if he fails then no one can save him not even Maya herself.

So in phase 3 i will not be surprised if we will see Maya's beyhadh hatred for Arjun or Maya in a full on revenge mode.

Rest we all can assume but ultimately will have to wait and watch.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@anshvi- My reasoning for believing that Arjun partly knows ( leaving Samay's part) about the frame up is 1.) his warning to Ayaan about not touching Maya or else she will destroy him.. 2.) he most probably destroyed the email.. I don't buy the theory of wrong email id..the confidence with which he showed his phone, seemed like he knew the email was not there.. I could be wrong ofcourse..
yes Arjun Maya separation will happen, almost a certain.. and I have a feeling it will be because of Samay.. either he will get to know of his role in the frameup or Samay will blackmail Maya to leave Arjun..though the later seems far fetched considering Maya does everything only to be with Arjun..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: MistyDawn

So after committing the most heinous crimes like murder and staging an attempt to rape case to frame her own brother in law, all in the name of securing Arjun for herself , now Maya is haunted by the burden of keeping her hands clean of any crime, misdeeds or manipulations... Arjun wants to see the light of hope and goodness in her but her own karma is going to come back to 🤬 her..😊... in the form of Samay.. This ain't a redemption that Maya is seeking.. this is a cover up..her intentions were clear in the text she sent to Samay and then her monologue when she heard about Prem's death..

She said :

Arjun wants to see the goodness in me.. he can't see the wrongs I have done... ( eternally insecure ) - that's a cover up.. She did not instruct Samay to kill Prem per se but she knows what he's capable of and she doesn't care as long as the evidence is destroyed, as indicated in the monologue '' I don't care how many people die, as long as Arjun doesn't leave me''... A person who wants to redeem herself will not say such things''... Maya has not changed...one bit

Looks like creatives want to turn the predator into a prey in the next phase.. Maya, too smart for her own good, has been pulling strings to make people dance to her tunes for way too long.. As expected, Samay has switched gears... he now wants returns, no less than Maya herself.. he knows way too many secrets for Maya to ignore, not when she is so desperate to keep her misdeeds hidden from Arjun.. Perfect setting for blackmail, maybe abduction or even an attempt to murder.. Hope tables turn this time.. If Samay realizes he can not have Maya, he will try to destroy her..

Saanjh and her quest for justice for Ayaan has been going endlessly without any result but Prem's murder might change things. Samay holds the key to both crimes.. he won't care if he goes down..he will take Maya down too.. Where does Arjun fit in here? I have a feeling he will forever support Maya...now with the baby in picture, he is left with little or no choice..


I think for once Maya WANTS to change. She wants to be better. But Maya's biggest problem is her insecurity and constant fear that Arjun is going to leave her. This insecurity drives her to take drastic steps to keep Arjun to herself and then take even bigger drastic steps to keep her former actions from being revealed to Arjun. So it becomes a never-ending cycle of mis-deeds, manipulations and cover ups. Its' a classic example of telling a 100 lies to cover 1 lie. In Maya's case she's trying to cover a 100 lies and therefore has to say 1000000000000+ more lies.

Maya can never really change unless she completely comes clean in front of Arjun, because as long as she has secrets from Arjun she is going to do whatever it takes to keep the secrets hidden. If EVERYTHING about her past actions are revealed to Arjun and he chooses to forgive her then that would be the only way she would get rid of her insecurity OR if she has some self realization and comes clean to Arjun and sets him free then she might heal. Till then she cycle of insecurity will continue.

Right now it looks like she wants to change but her list of mis-deeds are too long and she still has way too many secrets that she wants to hide from him, so every time she feels Arjun is going to get to know about one of her secrets she is going to do something to hide that and break her resolution to be good. So I don't think she is going to be able to change anytime soon.

And I agree about Samay and Maya. Maya is going to be the prey and Samay the predator in the next phase. I am looking forward to see how that plays out.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Agree... But wish Samay shd have realised before killing someone innocent!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweetshruti


I think for once Maya WANTS to change. She wants to be better. But Maya's biggest problem is her insecurity and constant fear that Arjun is going to leave her. This insecurity drives her to take drastic steps to keep Arjun to herself and then take even bigger drastic steps to keep her former actions from being revealed to Arjun. So it becomes a never-ending cycle of mis-deeds, manipulations and cover ups. Its' a classic example of telling a 100 lies to cover 1 lie. In Maya's case she's trying to cover a 100 lies and therefore has to say 1000000000000+ more lies.

Maya can never really change unless she completely comes clean in front of Arjun, because as long as she has secrets from Arjun she is going to do whatever it takes to keep the secrets hidden. If EVERYTHING about her past actions are revealed to Arjun and he chooses to forgive her then that would be the only way she would get rid of her insecurity OR if she has some self realization and comes clean to Arjun and sets him free then she might heal. Till then she cycle of insecurity will continue.

Right now it looks like she wants to change but her list of mis-deeds are too long and she still has way too many secrets that she wants to hide from him, so every time she feels Arjun is going to get to know about one of her secrets she is going to do something to hide that and break her resolution to be good. So I don't think she is going to be able to change anytime soon.

And I agree about Samay and Maya. Maya is going to be the prey and Samay the predator in the next phase. I am looking forward to see how that plays out.


Yes Shruti .. but I also feel that for a person to change, he or she should realize where the problem lies.. The choices we make are ultimately our doing no matter what the situation.. Maya's insecurity, paranoia are deep rooted because of her traumatic childhood but the choices she makes are her own.. Was murdering Ashwin the only choice she was left with, or even the pandit? she had no insecurity of losing Arjun back then, Saanjh was not even in the picture...They were getting married.. all the love, attention and assurances she had been craving for, she was getting everything and then she did this .. I agree with you, the only way she can get rid of this constant fear and insecurity of losing Arjun, is if she comes clean on every little or big crime she has committed so far.. That's why I am pissed with Arjun.. things he is doing now, he could have done much earlier, then maybe Maya would have never had such a low self esteem.. she thinks Arjun will never love her if she bares herself to him, with all her shortcomings and fault.. that's why all the pretense and cover up all the time.. she has been doing this even before they got married.. asking Jhanvi not to tell Arjun of her ''sach'' nahi tau wo bhag jayega.. ohhh that sach! 😲🤢

Maya can change only when she dares to be 100% honest with Arjun.. which is not happening anytime soon.. so the promise she has made to him is more of a farce in my opinion.. she can't even if she wants to..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I think none of the moral judgement criteria applies here because in Maya we have a person who has had a traumatic life.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Copy pasting from Shruti's thread.

Okay, watched today's episode and I'm sorry if this hurts or offends anyone for whatever reasons but the Maya I loved, she's officially dead to me. All I look forward to now is her suffer a terrible, horrible, horrifying, painful, torturous fate and double that of a death. Rest in peace, Prem. You were a beautiful soul. That scene was...painful to watch. :'(


My actual initial instant reaction right after the episode was worse.

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