The show's finally back on track

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After having an excruciatingly slow pace and going around in circles for sooo long and after being ridiculously predictable I think the show is finally getting somewhat back on track since the last few episodes. The CVs have managed to create a situation where it's not a 100% clear how the story will proceed and what season 3 will be about. So giving them credit where its due I do commend them for still keeping some mystery alive.
Let's look at all the potential plot points and mysteries that needs to unveiled:

1. The Maya-Arjun scene was touching and could be the game changer as far as Maya's character is concerned IF it was genuine and she was truly reaching out for help. If Maya is genuinely ready to turn a new leaf then it'll be interesting to see how that plays out considering Samay is still around and is a walking- talking proof of all her mis-deeds. If Maya was genuine in her cry for help then how will she react if Arjun leaves her side after knowing the extent of her crimes?? Will that turn her against him and Maya actively seeking to destroy Arjun be what Phase 3 will be about? This also brings me to my second point..

2. HOW much does Arjun already know about Maya's crimes??? Today we saw Maya about to confess something to Arjun but the scene cut before we could hear what she actually confessed. So does Arjun know everything and is he voluntarily covering up for her?? During the Ashwin murder track Arjun wanted Saanjh to save Jhanvi when he thought Jhanvi was the culprit, and Saanjh asked him why he wants to save her if she was guilty to which Arjun replied that unlike in movies in real life if your own person commits a crime you would still try to save them from going to jail and will not be mahaan and have them arrested. So is that playing out here?? Is Arjun aware of what Maya has done (except maybe the Samay part) and is ready to overlook that for the sake of "curing" her???

3. If Maya's breakdown was fake then that brings the story right back to square one, where Maya successfully manipulates and gains Arjun's sympathy AGAIN. How is the story going to move forward in that case??

4. So Samay kills Prem (RIP Prem) but does he do it under Maya's instructions?? If yes, then that effectively ends any chance of Maya ever getting a chance to redeem herself and there can be no more discussions on whether Maya is bimar or evil. If not, and if Samay does it all on his own then how will that affect Maya's decision to turn a new leaf (if that's true)?? Will she be blamed for the murder?? Will that misunderstanding drive Arjun away from her??

5. What is Samay's role going to be moving forward?? I guess his cover will be blown when he kills Prem and destroys the evidence. Is he going to stick around as Maya's minion or will we see him go rogue and actually turn against Maya and maybe kidnap her or kill her baby for the sake of his obsession??? Piyush did suggest that Samay was going to turn darker.

6. There seems to be 2 schools of thought on the show.
VM and Saanjh - who believe Maya is evil and mad and that Arjun needs to be saved from her. Arjun and Maya - who believe that Maya is sick and mad and needs to cured and saved from herself.
Which school of thought will prevail?? Are they both partially right?? I guess Jhanvi will be the one to answer this question.

7. Prem's death will definitely push Saanjh to give her all to fight against Maya. So that much is pretty obvious.

8. We know Maya killed Ashwin and caused Jhanvi's fall. But who committed the other murders?? Most probably Maya herself but it still needs to be clarified.

9. Is Maya's pregnancy real?? If yes, how will a baby fit into the equation??

10. If Maya is going to turn against Arjun at some point ( as it has been hinted umpteen times on the show) then what's going to trigger that?? A misunderstanding that Arjun's wants to kill her baby?? Arjun choosing to believe Saanjh about Maya's involvement in Prem's murder?? Arjun leaving her after knowing her truth??


We have so many plot points laid out and so many different outcomes and scenarios possible and so many questions that need to be answered that after a long time I am actually looking forward to the episodes to know what's going to happen. The show is currently keeping me guessing so kudos to the CVs for that and I hope they keep the pace up and move the story forward.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sweetshruti

After having an excruciatingly slow pace and going around in circles for sooo long and after being ridiculously predictable I think the show is finally getting somewhat back on track since the last few episodes. The CVs have managed to create a situation where it's not a 100% clear how the story will proceed and what season 3 will be about. So giving them credit where its due I do commend them for still keeping some mystery alive.

Hey Shruti.. been so long.. gud to see you around..😊 I have been MIA for a while..you'r right past couple of episodes have been somewhat nice..

Let's look at all the potential plot points and mysteries that needs to unveiled:

1. The Maya-Arjun scene was touching and could be the game changer as far as Maya's character is concerned IF it was genuine and she was truly reaching out for help. If Maya is genuinely ready to turn a new leaf then it'll be interesting to see how that plays out considering Samay is still around and is a walking- talking proof of all her mis-deeds. If Maya was genuine in her cry for help then how will she react if Arjun leaves her side after knowing the extent of her crimes?? Will that turn her against him and Maya actively seeking to destroy Arjun be what Phase 3 will be about? This also brings me to my second point..

@bold blue - I have my doubts about her being genuine.. is it a coincidence that everytime she is in trouble, she plays the sympathy card to get Arjun on her side.. suicide, rape victim and now pregnancy.. she can't be lying about pregnancy.. also she knows that is one deal that can tie Arjun with her forever, not that Arjun was gonna leave her but still..its her insurance policy.. but all those pleadings for help and admission of her sickness... not convinced if it was genuine..It felt like the climax scene.. Maya itni jadi sudhar gayi?😕😆

Samay is going to play a crucial role in their separation.. Arjun seems to be ready to forgive her of every crime.. he said ''mein sabh janta hu'' maybe he knows Ayaan wasn't at fault too.. if he can justify her shooting as a defense against intruders then Ayaan had done a bigger crime- trespassed and threatened his wife..threats he had heard.. so can the recording that Saanjh has sway him? I don't think so... Unless ofcourse, he gets to know about Samay.. that will change everything..all his sympathy and concern will go kaput!

2. HOW much does Arjun already know about Maya's crimes??? Today we saw Maya about to confess something to Arjun but the scene cut before we could hear what she actually confessed. So does Arjun know everything and is he voluntarily covering up for her?? During the Ashwin murder track Arjun wanted Saanjh to save Jhanvi when he thought Jhanvi was the culprit, and Saanjh asked him why he wants to save her if she was guilty to which Arjun replied that unlike in movies in real life if your own person commits a crime you would still try to save them from going to jail and will not be mahaan and have them arrested. So is that playing out here?? Is Arjun aware of what Maya has done (except maybe the Samay part) and is ready to overlook that for the sake of "curing" her???

Ya I covered that in my earlier point.. Arjun has convinced himself she's sick and that's the justification for anything wrong she does.. as long as she does it alone.. Samay is going to change that I am sure..

3. If Maya's breakdown was fake then that brings the story right back to square one, where Maya successfully manipulates and gains Arjun's sympathy AGAIN. How is the story going to move forward in that case??

Pregnancy may not be fake.. though I was like why did Arjun make love to her, assuming it was unprotected, if he didn't want the baby.. also nothing is 100% foolproof.. so I will spare Arjun.. anyway, that's too much logic 😆



4. So Samay kills Prem (RIP Prem) but does he do it under Maya's instructions?? If yes, then that effectively ends any chance of Maya ever getting a chance to redeem herself and there can be no more discussions on whether Maya is bimar or evil. If not, and if Samay does it all on his own then how will that affect Maya's decision to turn a new leaf (if that's true)?? Will she be blamed for the murder?? Will that misunderstanding drive Arjun away from her??

Maya could have instructed Samay, given the fact that she didn't bat an eyelid when Saanjh said that she has emailed the video to Prem.. I was wondering why..or did she trust Samay to take care of it..delete it somehow not sure about murder ? Samay will become a double edged sword for Maya eventually..

5. What is Samay's role going to be moving forward?? I guess his cover will be blown when he kills Prem and destroys the evidence. Is he going to stick around as Maya's minion or will we see him go rogue and actually turn against Maya and maybe kidnap her or kill her baby for the sake of his obsession??? Piyush did suggest that Samay was going to turn darker.

Samay will turn against Maya when realization will sink in that he can never have Maya.. he will end up dead at some point.. pretty sure..either coz he is like you said a walking talking proof of Maya's crimes, a liability she can not afford to keep looming on her head or coz he might attack Arjun.. either way he will end up dead..pretty sure..

6. There seems to be 2 schools of thought on the show.
VM and Saanjh - who believe Maya is evil and mad and that Arjun needs to be saved from her. Arjun and Maya - who believe that Maya is sick and mad and needs to cured and saved from herself.
Which school of thought will prevail?? Are they both partially right?? I guess Jhanvi will be the one to answer this question.

Jhanvi- did you notice how she wasn't looking into Saanjh's eyes when she led her to the pendrive.. I had a feeling she misled Saanjh.. about which school of though is right, I feel cv's will never let us settle for one.. everyone ( Saanjh and Vandy, Arjun Maya ) seemed to have agreed on point -Maya is pagal. One team believes she can not be cured and/or redeemed, other one is blind in love and believes love can heal her.. My question is why this late realization? He could have given her all these assurances much earlier... assuming we are never going to get any FB's of the three years and what we saw so far is what was there.. Arjun angry, frustrated and then Arjun reborn.😃

7. Prem's death will definitely push Saanjh to give her all to fight against Maya. So that much is pretty obvious.

Yes .. but she has to act wisely and not impulsively like she has been doing so far.. telling Maya names of everyone she emailed the video.. why Saanjh? why alert the enemy?

8. We know Maya killed Ashwin and caused Jhanvi's fall. But who committed the other murders?? Most probably Maya herself but it still needs to be clarified.

You mean pandit? hmm... only Maya and Samay can commit murders.. so..Maya most probably



9. Is Maya's pregnancy real?? If yes, how will a baby fit into the equation??

I have a feeling she is.. they can't show two miscarriages in one show.. so if miscarriage can't happen then Maya can not lie about it .. such a messed up case to have a baby.. could totally feel for Arjun

10. If Maya is going to turn against Arjun at some point ( as it has been hinted umpteen times on the show) then what's going to trigger that?? A misunderstanding that Arjun's wants to kill her baby?? Arjun choosing to believe Saanjh about Maya's involvement in Prem's murder?? Arjun leaving her after knowing her truth??

You think Maya was jealous of her own baby? when Arjun said something about the baby being everything now.. don't remember the dialogue.. her eyes gleamed for a sec, not with happiness..it was a weird alarmed expression.. or maybe I am wrong..😕 I think for Maya the baby is more like a leverage to make sure Arjun never leaves her.. mixed feelings..

We have so many plot points laid out and so many different outcomes and scenarios possible and so many questions that need to be answered that after a long time I am actually looking forward to the episodes to know what's going to happen. The show is currently keeping me guessing so kudos to the CVs for that and I hope they keep the pace up and move the story forward.



My answers in red bold 😃
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Originally posted by: MistyDawn


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Great post Shruti! Agreed with most of the things you said but I am personally quite put off by the show's continued and never ending torturefest. No matter the situation, no matter nothing, everyone were suffering or dying, are suffering or dying, everyone were ruined or are still getting ruined except for Maya. I have always had issues with the show's writing but its getting unpardonable now. Whether or not Samay killed Prem on Maya's orders, she's equally responsible, accountable and punishable, imo. Also, loved reading your and Misty's discussion.
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Great post Shruti! Agreed with most of the things you said but I am personally quite put off by the show's continued and never ending torturefest. No matter the situation, no matter nothing, everyone were suffering or dying, are suffering or dying, everyone were ruined or are still getting ruined except for Maya. I have always had issues with the show's writing but its getting unpardonable now. Whether or not Samay killed Prem on Maya's orders, she's equally responsible, accountable and punishable, imo. Also, loved reading your and Misty's discussion.


Agree with annihilation! Arjun has become devil's advocate for no reason.. Yes agree you won't feed vada pao to an intruder but you won't gun him down either.. W*F logic was that ? Like someone mentioned in another post, Arjun may well have deleted the email.. Feeling really bad for Prem.. But this may be the turning point in the show.. Saanjh has to put her head down, completely detach herself from Arjun, his feelings, his realization.. he has gotten into this mess in full awareness so let him face his shit.. fight the case as a lawyer, not burden herself with the responsibility of anything other than the case in hand..

I am now wondering what galti did Samay do, for which he was begging for forgiveness from Maya in the precap? He said he is going to make up for it and then he killed Prem.. but what galti? I have a strong feeling he will be the one to intentionally or unintentionally expose Maya..
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Originally posted by: MistyDawn


Agree with annihilation! Arjun has become devil's advocate for no reason.. Yes agree you won't feed vada pao to an intruder but you won't gun him down either.. W*F logic was that ? Like someone mentioned in another post, Arjun may well have deleted the email.. Feeling really bad for Prem.. But this may be the turning point in the show.. Saanjh has to put her head down, completely detach herself from Arjun, his feelings, his realization.. he has gotten into this mess in full awareness so let him face his shit.. fight the case as a lawyer, not burden herself with the responsibility of anything other than the case in hand..

I am now wondering what galti did Samay do, for which he was begging for forgiveness from Maya in the precap? He said he is going to make up for it and then he killed Prem.. but what galti? I have a strong feeling he will be the one to intentionally or unintentionally expose Maya..


Exactly. It's frustrating, excruciating and distasteful to watch every character in the show to suffer because of Maya or for Maya. I believe we have reached a stage in the show where no one should be able to deny the fact that Maya indeed isn't a good person at all. Even if she hadn't been sick, I highly doubt she'd have been a good human being. On top of that, when mental health issues are used as a justification means for the crap and crimes Maya has committed, it upsets me to a great degree.


Yes, Vandana wronged Maya by not giving her a chance when she had the chance to. Yes, Saanjh may have ruffled feathers with Maya at some instance. Jhanvi paid when she lost the man she loved.That's just about it. Vandana had already paid enough for her condemnable behaviour when her son permanently got separated from her. Saanjh paid when she had to let go of her love. That was all, that should have been enough. But no, Maya's never at peace and she's entirely to blame for every single person's suffering. Somehow, Maya seems to remember every minutest of incidents where she might have been shunned but she completely forgets and discards the incidents where Saanjh and Ayaan fought for her tooth and nail. When Arjun choose her and her love over and above anything, everything and anyone every goddamn time.


Fake suicide attempts, fake pregancies, hell lots of planning and manipulation, Ashwin's murder, Jhanvi's accident, possibly Vikram's accident and pundit's murder, getting Ayaan convicted in fake attempt to rape case, making Samay physically assault herself on purpose, planting Samay in Saanjh's life, Prem's murder, mentally and physically torturing Arjun, Jhanvi, Vandana, endangering hers and Jhanvi's lives, misusing law and committing other offences...all of this is ENTIRELY and SOLELY on her alone, imo. And now, I'm expected to have sympathy for her on the basis that she's sick? Sorry, not happening.


As for what happened in precap, Maya may not have specifically asked Samay to kill Prem but she definitely exploited him into doing so. The reactions she gave (twice) upon learning that Prem has the evidence raised red flags enough to suggest that she wouldn't care if anything happens in a bid to destroy the evidence. She might manipulate Samay into holding himself responsible for the leak of the evidence and thus he was fixing his mistake. She pretty well understands that if she activates that crazy streak of Samay, he'll either harm himself or others and she doesn't care what happens to anyone provided the evidence gets destroyed.
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@annihilation- agree, the list is far too long for redemption and its only going to get worse from here when Arjun leaves her.. That is why I said her tears don't seem genuine anymore, because we have seen the level of manipulation she is capable of , in the courtroom.. Arjun's blind support is only going to encourage her because now she is confident that he will cover her tracks no matter what she does to ''teach'' people lesson who according to her twisted logic have wronged her.. I think both Maya and Arjun should get over the fact that Saanjh is in love with Arjun.. she was and still cares for him deep-down but she doesn't ''want'' him.. Maya and Arjun are both incapable of understanding that innate goodness and humanity which makes people help others, which is all that Saanjh is trying to do..help Ayaan and Vandana.. she just needs the right leads and direction... in time she will..
About Samay and Maya.. I feel bad for Samay, the way Maya treats him.. he is so gonna be the reason for her downfall.. I hope he is... if anything, Maya should be thankful to him for tipping her just on time.. but yah.. like you said she knows which buttons to press to get the desired reaction.. easy for her when the other person is so desperate to prove his love and loyalty..
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Originally posted by: MistyDawn

@annihilation- agree, the list is far too long for redemption and its only going to get worse from here when Arjun leaves her.. That is why I said her tears don't seem genuine anymore, because we have seen the level of manipulation she is capable of , in the courtroom.. Arjun's blind support is only going to encourage her because now she is confident that he will cover her tracks no matter what she does to ''teach'' people lesson who according to her twisted logic have wronged her.. I think both Maya and Arjun should get over the fact that Saanjh is in love with Arjun.. she was and still cares for him deep-down but she doesn't ''want'' him.. Maya and Arjun are both incapable of understanding that innate goodness and humanity which makes people help others, which is all that Saanjh is trying to do..help Ayaan and Vandana.. she just needs the right leads and direction... in time she will..

About Samay and Maya.. I feel bad for Samay, the way Maya treats him.. he is so gonna be the reason for her downfall.. I hope he is... if anything, Maya should be thankful to him for tipping her just on time.. but yah.. like you said she knows which buttons to press to get the desired reaction.. easy for her when the other person is so desperate to prove his love and loyalty..


@Bold - SO TRUE! I don't understand why did the show have to make it apparent that both Maya and Arjun doubt that Saanjh still wants Arjun? May be to put it across and clear it for once and for all that her motive was never to break ArYa apart, ever. She's reinstated that fact a lot of times lately. From where I see it, she let go of any romantic feelings for Arjun completely after their marriage. She still struggled to come out of her unrequited love state until the fake miscarriage episode. Ever since then, she's only cared for Arjun like a childhood best friend, that's it. In fact, she does seem to love Samay. Yeah, not the way she loved Arjun but that's how it is. Your first love will always be a different kind of an episode even if you genuinely fall in love for the second time. Yeah, losing her father is going to bring about some drastic changes in her.


It's disappointing to see how her intentions and deeds are always considered wrong both inside and outside of the show. Kinda makes me wonder that how being good is looked down upon and being bad is thought of as cool or path breaking. At times, it seems as if goodness both in real and fiction world has little to no value left.


I used to feel bad for Samay as well until his engagement episode with Saanjh because I mistakenly believed that man to have a sense of conscience but clearly he doesn't have one. Like you said, he'll either end up dead at Maya's hands or contribute to her downfall. Although, the chances of the former happening are far greater than the latter.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Good post I think it will be interesting to see Maya destroy Arjun. One minute he is defending Maya and the next he's begging saanjh and taking her side. Arjun seriously annoys me. I will personally enjoy if maya destroys her own love :)...

I think people seem to be forgetting that this isn't a typical show. It's not a sass bahu where the lead is positive. It's beyhadh and the cvs have sticked to it. They have showed to what extend Maya can go to keep Arjun.

Yes I agree that it's time that cvs do something different. It will be nice to see Maya heal herself and perhaps leave Arjun behind and start a new life. However, we always say Maya did this and that but have we ever questioned why! That's because Arjun gave her that love and attention that she never got in her childhood. She was tortured and Arjun makes her feel safe. Saanjh and Vandu hypocrites...instead of helping the poor soul they make fun of her sickness. Vandu and saanjh are also to be blamed. When Maya is finally in peace people provoke her.

I m not justifying her actions. Ah phase 3 should be interesting
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Good post I think it will be interesting to see Maya destroy Arjun. One minute he is defending Maya and the next he's begging saanjh and taking her side. Arjun seriously annoys me. I will personally enjoy if maya destroys her own love :)...

I think people seem to be forgetting that this isn't a typical show. It's not a sass bahu where the lead is positive. It's beyhadh and the cvs have sticked to it. They have showed to what extend Maya can go to keep Arjun.

Yes I agree that it's time that cvs do something different. It will be nice to see Maya heal herself and perhaps leave Arjun behind and start a new life. However, we always say Maya did this and that but have we ever questioned why! That's because Arjun gave her that love and attention that she never got in her childhood. She was tortured and Arjun makes her feel safe. Saanjh and Vandu hypocrites...instead of helping the poor soul they make fun of her sickness. Vandu and saanjh are also to be blamed. When Maya is finally in peace people provoke her.

I m not justifying her actions
. Ah phase 3 should be interesting

Maya has a date with law before thinking of any peace!
She killed Ashwin & still enjoying comforts of her home for more than 3 years! Naturally, the trigger happy Maya is still at her game of threatening everyone with her Gun, as she knows how to evade law!

But poor Ayaan is rotting in jail, for days together, for a far less offence! He is suffering actually for a crime which is foisted upon with a malafide intent to frame him!

Who is the aggressor & who is the Victim? Will justice punish only weaker ones?

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