Shivaay's conundrum *edited*

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Jo kal tak tha kinare pe,
Aaj do kashtiyon pe sawaar.



Om spouted these elegant lines about Shivaay, following the moonlight-embrace scene in Episode 32.


This is when Shivaay is caught between his socially ordained, acceptable and validated choice (Tia), and what was soon to be his heart's desire- the spunky, lively, wild-child Anika, who would never fit into the mould of what Shivaay Singh Oberoi- S.S.O., the blue-eyed heir of the Oberoi family, considers an ideal wife and life partner. One who would go on to become the mother of his children.


Today, Shivaay is caught in a similar conundrum- do kashtiyon par sawaar.


One is again, his heart's desire, his beloved wife whom he cannot even think letting go of. Leave alone fathoming the idea, he cannot even begin to consider it. His strictures to her following the OBros scene; first, not to leave the room, and then, not to set foot outside the mansion, testified to this.


The other, is sadly is his own prejudices/belief system/ideologies. Naam Khoon aur Khandaan. Something ingrained in his being, which cannot but think of the myriad questions that society will raise. About his wife, his family, his children. More importantly, the questions that he himself will raise...which could potentially create a chasm between him and Anika forever. Damaging and destroying something so precious, so dear...which has come to mean the world to him. This paradise, this Garden of Eden which embodied serenity, laughter and love. All be-spoiled by the serpent (Pinky) who maliciously used his own weakness against him, suggestively and surreptitiously poisoning him like Honest Man Iago, who did not implicate himself directly in the rift between Othello and Desdemona, but was still the underlying cause nonetheless.



So yeah...Shivaay aaj phir do kashtiyon pe sawaar hai.


Quite the conundrum indeed.

To me...this was the enduring image from the episode.


The palpable fear on Shivaay's face as he clasped Anika close to him..his anguish that he himself may single-handedly destroy what they share. That he has to choose between his love and the cornerstone of his identity. That it is his long-standing beliefs which will end up ruining this world that comprises of only Anika and him. A beautiful, precious and fragile world.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Great post Amri.

Shivaay is clear on this much; he's not going to let her go. But the doubts.. they've been planted and are being watered every day by his beloved mother low-key harboring Jocasta-like intentions 😆

The distances are going to increase as they both continue their own investigations. Tensions will rise as they probably won't be happy with what they find - especially Shivaay. Anika will be the first one to know about Mahi and no one will believe her becaus eof their NKK prejudices. She'll, as a result, question her own standing in the Oberoi house. On the other hand, Shivaay will begin getting snappier with her as he investigates her further.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Awesome post.
The first hug between shivika..At that time to they hold their hands for a long time unknowingly.
But today he can't leave her.Because she is his life.she made her place in his heart.No one can change the truth Anika is my wife.
But the inner battle between his mind and heart.we all know the answer...heart will win.
Here Shivaay only wanted to know her background.His brain is forcing him to find the answers for his question.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Beautiful post amri like always, and your references from past episodes and their link to current track that's always so wonderfully written.

Tough my interpretation is a bit different about "do kashtiyun" and to be honestwhen our family is looking for a suitable partner for us they do make sure that they have a good reputation in society, being super rich is not important but a family that has good name and values does count ok this is something what happen in real life but for shivika there's a difference b/w past in future, if you notice two episodes ago I guess on Monday shivaay clearly said to himself that if he will choose NKK he will lose anika now about that thing he's not conflicted, he knows that his life cannot be the same without her and he cannot just marry again and be happy only because the girl has NKK that was his past when NKK was everything to him even the source of his happiness until anika happen even in hatred he did think about her and now his concerns are changed finding about anika's root has become important for him not because of his NKK but because he cannot see her in pain, in past he clearly said to her"auron se alag bhi hai but woh class nahi hai, he said woh itni neechay hai jahan meri nigahein bhi nahi ja sakti" but today his top priority is to save anika from any kind of disgrace or from people who will point finger on her identity not because NKK is important to him but because anika poured out her heart to shivaay!!!Something I was so impatiently waiting for.

I feel somewhere that shivaay is not much obsessed with NKK like he used to be, be ware that he's shivaay singh oberoi who cannot express himself and he's the one; when he says he will make things right then he will make things right no matter what.

Mallu

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Great post Amru

I'm really happy and excited about this track. I always wanted the cvs to focus on annika's past. I would have been really disappointed if Shivaay had not hesitated a little between Annika and his NKK. So I'm really happy with what's going on so far 😊
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Posted: 8 years ago
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My wifi has completely given up for me so pardon me for keeping my reply short:) I am making do with my mobile data and it's so patchy...not to mention i hate typing on my mobile.

Ruz. Will be waiting dearie;)

Risha. You're bang on as usual. Haha...the Jocasta reference had me in splits. I know it's blasphemous to think of this in conjunction with a Greek tragedy but the way Pinky has been behaving of late does imply a Oedipus-Jocasta situation.

I do think, on the contrary,that this veiled investigation will cost Shivaay dear...he might dredge up something in conjunction with how the Oberois were responsible for Anika's plight. And the Mahi revelation might lead to a further unravelling of his prejudices...but this time the shoe will be on the other foot and it's he who has to bear the pain of being one of Anika's choices.


Sakkiyah

Well said dear. We hope that in this battle hopefully his heart will win over his mind eventually:)
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Mallu

That's quite an interesting perspective.

To me the most defining statement was Shivaay's Woh Meri Biwi Hai. This implies a bond which is more binding than Nkak. But at the same time..it is innately important to him that no one dare question him or belittle him or Anika...like the scene where everyone was laughing at him for the pani phekna. 😆 His reputation does matter to him a lot.

But i do think that this is the beginning of his conflict and as of now he is seeing the situation from his viewpoint...as he realises Anika's struggles and its magnitude he will transcend his prejudices...but as of now he is beginning his journey. He knows Anika is important...irrevocably so but at the same time is grappling with his deeply ingrained beliefs.


Shona

Thanks dear. I feel the same. It would've been out of place had Shivaay not questioned everything and struggled with himself. This is his journey as an Ishqbaaaz and i am waiting for it to unfold:)
Edited by YeHoKyaRahaHai - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Mobile data also coming to an end :(
Please do leave your thoughts here and i will get back to you as soon as my wifi is restored:)

Take care!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: YeHoKyaRahaHai


Risha. You're bang on as usual. Haha...the Jocasta reference had me in splits. I know it's blasphemous to think of this in conjunction with a Greek tragedy but the way Pinky has been behaving of late does imply a Oedipus-Jocasta situation.

I do think, on the contrary,that this veiled investigation will cost Shivaay dear...he might dredge up something in conjunction with how the Oberois were responsible for Anika's plight. And the Mahi revelation might lead to a further unravelling of his prejudices...but this time the shoe will be on the other foot and it's he who has to bear the pain of being one of Anika's choices.



I think Anika's past will be a separate track but I won't be surprised if the foundations are laid down with this track, only. I do believe ke it'll be Anika who decides to take a step because Shivaay takes too long to decide and she isn't willing to wait around anymore. Even today, she walked right out at the first sign of doubt.


@BOLD: Thanks 😆 I had this professor in college who used to joke k all Punjabi mothers low-key suffer from Jocasta complex 🤣 (No offence to any Punjabis, I'm one, too 😆 )
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Posted: 8 years ago
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At least we know that he knows its one or the other. He can't have it both ways and I'd called that progress after the all inconsistencies and dragging in the story 😆 He looked scared and conflicted in that scene. Kudos to NM.


He can be in love (whether he realizes it or not) and still have reservations about her and the future. That's a normal reaction because he doesn't know anything about her. As for NKK, old habits die hard so he might say he's fine and not really be. The whole point of the show is him overcoming his prejudices willingly and wholeheartedly so it would be more entertaining if he struggled with it.


Keeping expectations low, but this might actually be an interesting track. They just need to develop Anika's character too because right now other than saving his family, being insecure, and waiting for him to get over his prejudices there isn't much going for her in story. Her walking was a bit of joke. She stayed and was cool with being insulted for months after the forced marriage so her being angry and leaving now seemed silly, but that's probably just me. It won't happen but it would nice if she had to opportunity to decide whether or not this relationship is worth it. Her past would be the perfect opportunity.

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