Dear everyone. Your stand exposes your own IQ - Sonu Nigam - Page 16

Originally posted by: I_M_SultaN

😆lol sultan sultan he G.O.A.T 😆

milne do wl😉

Originally posted by: _Lord.of.Light_

First of all , let us try and look at it a bit more objectively ..

You have repeated "Sonu's case" way too many times , so i assume you are strictly talking about the people whom you deem to be "capable of shielding themselves from noise pollution " ... the rich or middle class , right ? .. but this problem isnt restricted to just "Sonu's case" ..

India is a secular country wherein multiple religions & cultures co-exist peacefully - this is what makes my country diverse , colourful , rich & noisy .. while i absolutely love the "noise" , it is quite endearing , there reaches a point where "noise" could become "nuisance" to some .. religious freedom is very important in a secular country like India but at the same time following some basic ground rules can make life easier for everyone.. follow these rules when you live within a society , right in the middle of civilisation.. remote holy religious places being an exception ..

Sonu has just talked about Azaan , but i wonder about late night Jagraatas , mostly i believe it happens in Hindu areas but even many Hindus could get irritated with the noise .. a little bit of consideration for fellow civilians could mean a lot to the society as a whole ...

Between us , I think it is a matter of misplaced blame ..

Originally posted by: Justmoi

Here in the US, It's generally quiet, but noise does travel especially in an apartment. If noise bothers me I am the one responsible for taking steps to make me feel comfortable.Does not matter if a person is in a rented middle class apartment like me or someone who paid millions of dollars in a high rise in NYC.

Originally posted by: Justmoi

Indians are really nice, that's all I will say 😆. Here in the US, It's generally quiet, but noise does travel especially in an apartment. If noise bothers me I am the one responsible for taking steps to make me feel comfortable.Does not matter if a person is in a rented middle class apartment like me or someone who paid millions of dollars in a high rise in NYC. For years I have worn huge headphones while traveling because noise bothers me. Only recently have they come up with things that don't weigh a ton or give you a headache. I have acoustic tiles, thick drapes, sound machine, fan to simulate white noise, even an app all because I live in an apt and I can hear people moving about and generally living life

Originally posted by: JaiJaiIraniMata

lol you didn't get it...I am not using these statements to seriously prove that I am secular...I could be or I could be not...these statements of mine are just digs at people who I perceive to be pseudo liberals...you have got my "goals" all wrong...what does it say about you when you don't even understand digs of an idiot?😆

Originally posted by: MadOwhat

While the Secularist & Thekedars are bashing Sonu here ...the Religious leaders seem to agreed with Sonu's request

As I said its a Indian problem ...and India will solve it.

See below article... courtesy 9tanki

Muslim leaders welcome high court order on loudspeakers

Mohammed Wajihuddin| TNN | Aug 3, 2014, 04.47 AM IST

MUMBAI: One of the attributes of 'azaan' is that it summons the faithful to peace and tranquility. Ironically, 'azaan' through loudspeakers has become a cause of concern and is being objected to from some quarters. So much so that Navi Mumbai resident Santosh Pachalag petitioned the Bombay High Court against "illegal use of loudspeakers" by mosques in his area. An RTI plea had found that 45 of 49 mosques in the area didn't have permission to use loudspeakers. Acting on the petition, the Bombay High Court directed the police last week to remove "illegal" loudspeakers from mosques. Many in the community have welcomed the verdict. They say in many mosques the use of loudspeakers defeats the purpose for which the muezzins call out to the faithful five times a day.

For long many mosques, in violation of the Noise Pollution (Control and Regulation) Rules, 2000 have used loudspeakers much above the permissible decibel levels (50dB during day and 40 dB at night for silence zone and 55 dB during day and 45dB at night for residential area). Now many community leaders and activists demand that mosques should reduce the noise level or face the music. "Azaan is mandatory to namaz, not the use of loudspeakers. Azaan should be sonorous and easy on the ears. If loudspeakers are inconveniencing fellow citizens, I would say the mosques should remove them before the police take action," says senior community leader Dr M A Patankar who, like many others, feel disturbed by the noise from illegal loudspeakers atop some mosques.

Activist Saeed Khan has closely observed the increasing levels of noise from loudspeakers atop mosque minarets. He says the Saboo Siddique Hospital in Dongri is a classic example. Situated between Masjid-e-Iranian or Mughal Mosque (a Shia place of worship) and a Sunni Masjid, Saboo Siddique Hospital and a nearby municipal school (both fall in the silence zone) have to endure the long, high-decibel azaans every day. "Normally an azaan should last two to three minutes, but here the muezzins at both the mosques give azaans which last longer. It is competitive religiosity and both groups try to outdo one another in proving their respective superiority," says Khan. Ali Namazi, honorary secretary of Mughal Mosque's Trust, denies that his mosque is in any competition but admits that during the recently-concluded Ramzan festivities the loudspeaker volumes were "really high". "I ensured that the volume is reduced as it was inconveniencing many residents. We don't allow anything which creates problem for the citizens," claims Namazi.

Khan complains that at many Sunni mosques the practice of reciting "salam" (devotional verses in praise of the Prophet) after the fajr (morning) prayer causes "pain" to many people. "I have no problem if the salam is recited by those who are praying inside the mosque. Why should it be amplified to disturb those who are sleeping in the morning?" asks Khan. "If Muslims have the right to give azaan, non-Muslims have the right to sleep peacefully."

The verdict has awakened many community members from their "sleep." In New Mumbai, under the banner of Muslim Ekta Forum, community members have decided to approach the court against the rule that says that loudspeakers should not be used between 10pm and 6am. "Our morning namaz is held around 5am. We are planning to challenge this rule and want exemption for it. We have told the mosques' managements to follow the rules," says the Forum's president, Ali M Shamsi.

Originally posted by: ZanduBaaM

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wahan bhi pareshaa hai log, yahan bhi pareshaan log hai

de rahe gaaliya dharam ke naam bade hi besharm log hai ...Zandu

Only one loudspeaker allowed outside worship places

RAWALPINDI: In a latest move, the provincial government has imposed a ban on the use of more than one loudspeaker in worship places.

In this regard, the police have been directed to launch a crackdown on the violators of the ban under the Punjab Sound Regulation Ordinance 2015.

The law empowers the police to arrest and confiscate the sound system.

"We have served notices on mosques and other worship places to remove the extra speakers immediately," superintendent of police Rawal Division Malik Karamat told Dawn.