Why did Saanjh uff Dusky lose

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I had wanted to make this post immediately after the episode. But didnt get time. So making it now. The reason Saanjh lost is because she did a crime. What was that crime. Asked a key eye witness not to come to court because she felt his testimony will go against what she wants. Now a criminal can do such things. They are expected to do such things. But a lawyer who knows law, who has the power with her to give justice shouldn't be doing it. A lawyer's job is defending the client against all the accusations in terms of every proof that opposition can bring. A lawyer also has to look objectively at the case. Strong and weak points of the case. If she has a weakness in any testimony, then supporting documents/evidences needs to be provided.
If the crime of asking Samay not to come was not enough, Saanjh did another funda. She went and claimed where she is truth is there. Then she accused another woman characterless. If you want to accuse someone, first and foremost needed is keep your slate clean. After committing the crime ( I will repeat crime of asking eye witness not to come) you come with a holy cloak and pronounce judgement on another woman.

Yes she is manipulative, maybe a criminal. What is you. The one who knows law. She has only experience and her actions are based on experience. Your actions has to be based on law, because you know that perfectly. When you asked Samay not to come was that in line with the law you studied.

How did you decide Samay's testimony will go against you. The only reason it went against was you tried to keep him away. He was summoned. He told what he saw, what he heard and what he felt. Every bit of it was truth. If you could just question his feelings you would have reached the truth. Yes it might have even proved Maya bad and mad, but not for the staged rape attempt but for being the obsessive wife she is and Ayan would have got punishment for physical assault and intimidation. The balance would have been corrected. Even it might have helped Maya to get some consular access, or Arjun to get a divorce or maybe with the help of a psychiatrist Maya would have been able to start a fresh life with Arjun. Any of the normal, sane possibilities were there

The journey from Maya's perception to Samay's truth would have helped everyone including yourself. But for that to happen you should have bought Samay and put him in the witness stand. Then your questioning , cross examination should be based on his testimony. For any one who is with truth, you dont run away from eye witness. Because you need eye witness to establish truth. Doesnt a lawyer know this. Yes a lawyer knows this very much. But a lawyer also knows if you are not in the side of truth the eye witness becomes the biggest stumbling block. Because eye witness can hamper the chances of her client.

Dusky lost because she was not with truth. Ayan got the punishment he didnt deserve because his lawyer's objective was not giving him justice, her objective was defeating Maya. If his lawyer trusted him completely she wouldnt have run away from putting the eye witness on the stand. So somewhere she didnt trust her client enough but used him as a pawn to get even with Maya.

Balance is not right. That's why when Maya was speaking the balance of Goddess of justice was shown. She doesnt see. She hears, she hears every argument and balance it out. When Samay came Bhagavat Gita was shown to him. I dont remember that book being shown to anyone else. Maybe CVs wanted to highlight the importance of Samay and his truth.

He came later, after the world had heard Maya's feelings and saw Maya's wounds. So there was no one to evaluate what he told dispassionately.

I loved the question Maya's lawyer asked Dusky when she says everything is a lie " So does this mean your fiancee also has lied".

Will Dusky learn. Will Dusky stop being a self proclaimed Goddess and will try to evaluate where she went wrong. Or Will she go to collect more proofs about Maya being mad and bad and continue being a Goddess, justifying every act of hers to bring down Maya.

I had an analysis of dusky in the beginning of the show. If Dusky stop being self proclaimed Goddess she can show a path to Maya which I had wanted very much. But if Dusky goes for proving Maya bad and mad and if she is willing to break any rules for that then the Dusky I had liked will be lost forever.

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Shineon thumbnail
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Ayan got punishment not because Sanj could not defend him properly, it is because maya accused him of something he was not guilty of 😆.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@shruthi yes you are absolutely right.

Firstly Saanjh asks the witness not to come, then she gets highly overconfident, later she degrades Maya.
None of this helped her as none of this could.

I kind of wrote a long post over it on my thread so am just gonna copy paste it


Saanjh was really overconfident
And that's exactly which got me confused.

I mean when she was being interviewed, not only Saanjh supporters but also Maya supporters thought for a moment that she has grown, she has learned more, she has prepared herself in these 3 years.

But when she starts the case, you are in for a shock. I mean she started with Arjun implying Maya can handle any situation, even attempt to rape.
Then she says Maya is obsessed with her husband, which is completely true. But that wasn't even relevant.
She could not get any evidence except how Maya got off the plane.

She had told Samay not to come in the courtroom as he is the only thing that would go against Ayaan.
Again it wasn't the case. Prosecutor had more evidences against Ayaan than Saanjh could have ever guessed.

I simply don't understand this. What was she so confident about? I don't know cvs wanted to show.
They showed us such an amazingly confident Saanjh who was like "Sach wahi hai jahaan main hoon "
That only means that she has all the proof and evidence in her favour but that clearly was not the case.
I am not sure whether to blame the character for overconfidence or the writers for illogical writing.

And that "rape hua toh nahi dialogue " really made me cringe. I am one such person who is ready for anything Maya, Arjun, Saanjh, Vandana or Ayaan can throw at us . When everyone was like how can Ayaan do this, I was kind of prepared, but I was not prepared for this kind of dialogue from a professional lawyer. Also when the prosecutor condemned her for saying that, her expressions were that of a teenager not in a mood of advice from her parents. That kind of showed she did not blabber it out of anger or something, she was ready to support it. That made me sick.

Saanjh should have been a sensible character. But she lost all sensibility when she gave the key and kick theory.
I mean Ayaan lost the case, the moment Saanjh argued he was ready to rip her clothes apart.
And we all know that court do not take words as a proof of intent rather believes in actions.

Well one can never say what's in Maya's mind coz that is something even the god can't predict.
But imagine yourself, a girl who decides to put the keys in your garments to protect it. Then someone says "Main tumhe moonh dikhane layak nahi chodoonga " and starts tearing your clothes. If I was her, I would forget about the keys at that very moment, and think that this person is trying to rape me.

As for the kick theory, I really doubt it. Bcoz if it was true, if Ayaan was trying to get up or even if did not fall on Maya by choice, then when Samay pulled him up, why did he wanted to go and fall on her again??

The only way Saanjh could have helped Ayaan was by saying that Ayaan was beating Maya and clothes got torn in that hassle. Maya misinterpreted the incident. Then she could have used the broken cctv as evidence that Maya framed him.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@shineon what is a lawyer's job. Just because someone accuse your client you allow the accusation to stay or defend the client properly. Why didnt she put Samay on the witness stand. If she was morally upright as she claims she should have put Samay on the witness stand.
@manya she took Maya's weakness than her own strength. Finally her strength that is Samay went to Maya's side. Yes rape toh hua nahi and her supporting ayan had the right to rip open Maya's clothes to get keys. Samay's testimony proved to me atleast Maya put the keys in her blouse because she felt Ayan wont attack her there. Samay told Maya was frightened and shattered. which is truth and the fact he told it was not attempt of rape was also true. It was physical assault and intimidation which Ayan had no right to do. Yes Maya is bad, but it showed if provoked others can also be bad.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Saanjh lost coz she didn't look at all the possible angles of the case like the CCTV footage , she underestimated Maya , got over confident and the biggest weak point was her asking Samay not to come to the court..as a lawyer she should have known that the Police will summon him to the court as they were aware about the fact that Samay was an eye witness.
She lost the cast due to all these reasons...if she wants to bring out Maya's truth then she needs to be better prepared for it.

Now Ayaan lost coz his case became weak - there are a few reasons for that - one Saanjh being not prepared well for the case..she should have thought about the CCTV footage , she assumed tha Maya will not go for the medical test- despite knowing Maya that her hadh is Beyhadh she underestimated her..underestimating Maya , asking Samay to not appear before court and not thinking from all angles about the case were her major reasons for losing the case ,

Second reason was due to Maya's maipulation - all the CCTV footage got destroyed except for one in which Ayaan was over Maya - very convinient ! Maya emotionally influencing the judge and the people by removing her jacket and showing her marks !
Now if Maya faked it then medical reports had to be tampered.

Thirdly it was the story's demand for Ayaan and Saanjh to lose the case and Maya to win it
If Maya had lost then it doesn't make sense as this is not the story of Maya - the victim getting justice for herself by struggling and appealing in high court to seek justice and Arjun being their by her side.
If we think logically then it Maya's story of behadh love and how she will go to any extent to keep her love for herself.

She was supposed to win this case as many of us had predicted...coz then from story perspective it makes sense...Now story cannot be that Arjun and Maya will be living happily ever after...story will move from here.

So, in my opinion due to the above reasons Ayaan lost the case.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

I had wanted to make this post immediately after the episode. But didnt get time. So making it now. The reason Saanjh lost is because she did a crime. What was that crime. Asked a key eye witness not to come to court because she felt his testimony will go against what she wants. Now a criminal can do such things. They are expected to do such things. But a lawyer who knows law, who has the power with her to give justice shouldn't be doing it. A lawyer's job is defending the client against all the accusations in terms of every proof that opposition can bring. A lawyer also has to look objectively at the case. Strong and weak points of the case. If she has a weakness in any testimony, then supporting documents/evidences needs to be provided.

If the crime of asking Samay not to come was not enough, Saanjh did another funda. She went and claimed where she is truth is there. Then she accused another woman characterless. If you want to accuse someone, first and foremost needed is keep your slate clean. After committing the crime ( I will repeat crime of asking eye witness not to come) you come with a holy cloak and pronounce judgement on another woman.

Yes she is manipulative, maybe a criminal. What is you. The one who knows law. She has only experience and her actions are based on experience. Your actions has to be based on law, because you know that perfectly. When you asked Samay not to come was that in line with the law you studied.

How did you decide Samay's testimony will go against you. The only reason it went against was you tried to keep him away. He was summoned. He told what he saw, what he heard and what he felt. Every bit of it was truth. If you could just question his feelings you would have reached the truth. Yes it might have even proved Maya bad and mad, but not for the staged rape attempt but for being the obsessive wife she is and Ayan would have got punishment for physical assault and intimidation. The balance would have been corrected. Even it might have helped Maya to get some consular access, or Arjun to get a divorce or maybe with the help of a psychiatrist Maya would have been able to start a fresh life with Arjun. Any of the normal, sane possibilities were there

The journey from Maya's perception to Samay's truth would have helped everyone including yourself. But for that to happen you should have bought Samay and put him in the witness stand. Then your questioning , cross examination should be based on his testimony. For any one who is with truth, you dont run away from eye witness. Because you need eye witness to establish truth. Doesnt a lawyer know this. Yes a lawyer knows this very much. But a lawyer also knows if you are not in the side of truth the eye witness becomes the biggest stumbling block. Because eye witness can hamper the chances of her client.

Dusky lost because she was not with truth. Ayan got the punishment he didnt deserve because his lawyer's objective was not giving him justice, her objective was defeating Maya. If his lawyer trusted him completely she wouldnt have run away from putting the eye witness on the stand. So somewhere she didnt trust her client enough but used him as a pawn to get even with Maya.

Balance is not right. That's why when Maya was speaking the balance of Goddess of justice was shown. She doesnt see. She hears, she hears every argument and balance it out. When Samay came Bhagavat Gita was shown to him. I dont remember that book being shown to anyone else. Maybe CVs wanted to highlight the importance of Samay and his truth.

He came later, after the world had heard Maya's feelings and saw Maya's wounds. So there was no one to evaluate what he told dispassionately.

I loved the question Maya's lawyer asked Dusky when she says everything is a lie " So does this mean your fiancee also has lied".

Will Dusky learn. Will Dusky stop being a self proclaimed Goddess and will try to evaluate where she went wrong. Or Will she go to collect more proofs about Maya being mad and bad and continue being a Goddess, justifying every act of hers to bring down Maya.

I had an analysis of dusky in the beginning of the show. If Dusky stop being self proclaimed Goddess she can show a path to Maya which I had wanted very much. But if Dusky goes for proving Maya bad and mad and if she is willing to break any rules for that then the Dusky I had liked will be lost forever.


Another reason for her loss is that she doesn't have a law degree. 😉
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@anshvi Saanjh's goal was not justice for Ayan, it was to win the case. She will go to high court and appeal. That is for sure.
@dexter Saanjh is a lawyer. But she is emotional and not objective when it comes to Arjun.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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😆 so now saanjh is responsible for sending Ayan to jail
Maya is draupadi or some fearless goddess

Saanjh is self proclaimed goddess 😆

Saanjh is criminal of highest order

Maya accused Ayan of attempt to rape so who is the criminal of highest order

Ayaan definitely dint attempt to rape her

Samay isn't any witness in sense he just saw Ayan above maya. That doesn't prove anything. Samay could only mess the case.
Saanjh takes a step then she called as criminal activity.

Maya kidnaps, ties, locks an individual.Ayan reaction becomes crime. Saanjh protecting Ayan becomes a crime. Maya kidnaps, drugs, ties, locks and then sends the other to jail for crimes they dint commit is still not a criminal.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@tanvi thanks for replying. Since our views are poles are apart let us agree to disagree.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shineon

Ayan got punishment not because Sanj could not defend him properly, it is because maya accused him of something he was not guilty of 😆.


Exactly...😆..Ayan got punishment because NO ONE can ever imagine that a woman can go to such obsessive manipulations that you trip your devar to make him fall on you, n disrobe in public to show self inflicted wounds to accuse him further.

What Saanjh did was more foolish than anything else...To term it a crime is blind defence of a criminal like Maya...

Saanjhs main fault was her inexperience n her passion to protect Ayan...Everything that she accused Maya of, was true, but she didn't have proofs.

Most definitely, Saanjh will strike back, use this defeat as a learning experience, n this time prepare her case with proofs for every accusation.

It's really weird how Maya's crimes are defended in the name of " circumstances" while Saanjh is accused for foolishness.

😆 Maya's Mayajaal has a lot of viewers too in it's grip...Looks like 😆😉😆
Edited by ---Khushi--- - 8 years ago

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