First aid for Shivika fans - Page 4

Originally posted by: enness

Nice, balanced post !! Agree, today was a little jolt for a lot of us who thought we had moved on from the NKK bit to the " I won't confess till you do" dance 😆.For me personally, there was a disconnect between IB Shivay this week and DBO Shivay today...guess it was the makers way of preparing us for a lot more conflict ahead...Shivika ain't gonna happen anytime in the near future.

That said - I am ok with it, as long as they don't make Shivay's acceptance of Annika w/o NKK dependent on Shivay HIMSELF finding out stuff about his own NKK...we know there is still a possibility of him and NOT om being the illegitimate one. If this IS the case - i don't want him to accept Annika only then. It should be without any qualification...else it will be useless.

Originally posted by: luvshivika

Much needed post. I felt so so so sad when I heard his words . Frankly speaking your post gave me some hope that things might work out , I was shattered when I heard SSO say that he cannot imagine her to be a part of his future or the mother to his kids . It made me so sad . I still ship shivika , because I know SSO loves his Annika. He will come around I know it , but it's going to take a lot (I mean like a lot ) of time for that to happen . I hope things work out in a proper manner for them . I really love this couple and it will make me super depressed if they are separated because of stupid Naam Khoon Khandaan . Om and Rudy were the sweeter guys but they too are becoming SSOs. I hope all the Obros become smarter and more human then they currently are . This NKK ka bhoot, the wrongly blaming their lady loves needs to be kept in control because they are going overboard with it . I loved the way at least OmRu support Annika regardless of NKK , they will definitely help Shivaay in achieving his Ishq. I just loved the struggle between SSO and Shivaay (clearly visible during Om and Shiv conversation ), and I really hope our Shivaay wins this battle . 😳

Thanks Anisa for this post . 😃

Originally posted by: NYCForever

@bold - i actually want this to happen, i want her to reject him for once. yes, i am always more sympathetic to anika (and proudly so😉)! i have always said, shivaay's love is too selfish for someone as pure as anika to accept him and she still did! she has got nothing in return - except taunts and crap from shinky and his useless family who even forgot how she saved them from humiliation multiple times!!!

i felt sad when i read the updates but just watched the scene now, and actually liked it. more so as i see this as anika's liberation from this nameless relationship. the poor girl is caught in this downward spiral. can he please say it one more time so she hears it and decides to move on - love will remain in her heart but she needs to lead her own life and build her own career for herself and her brother. i am tired of her being oberoi's punching bag and yes, to anyone trying to justify it to me - she is not family to them so they do not have the right to insult her every day the way they do! i really want her to focus on herself, just anika and shivaay to find his way back to her

is that too much to ask in an indian show where the focus is on vamps who cant even act properly 😆

Originally posted by: hi50

Copying from my another post today, thought to share with you:

I have no doubt that Shivaay loves Annika 😊.. but where is his acceptance in public 😲? Some of us are quite happy and support no public confession, but did we keep ourselves in Annika's shoes ever 😲?

A girl with self-respect has been fighting with the whole world from her childhood.. She has heard herself as 'kura' so many times.. and every time it has hurt her like hell, be it from Sahil's bua or Shivaay.. 😭

The HOME should be place of solace.. and does she get it at OM?😡 Pinky never leaves a chance to taunt her and makes sure that she understands that she is a mere employee and does not deserve to be there..😡

but she is still there (And I'm pissed off for that..!!😡😡), because her love for Shivaay and his family 😊.. I think she was happier and at her old house with Sahil.. at least she was confident that they have the bonding of love.. and he is her family..!!

So my question is:

1. Doesn't she deserve a peaceful life?

2. Doesn't she deserve a HOME in true sense?

3. Doesn't she have the right to know her stand in Shivaay's life? Nothing is more demeaning than the fact that the man wants to keep you with him without giving any name to that relationship.. He does not care if he can have a child with her as he does not see a future with her.. he is ok to live his rest of like that, with Annika on his bed and Tia being recognized as the mother of his child..!! Such arrangements are not taken well in society (in this case even society is unaware of it) and for a girl like Annika with self-respect, it's a REAL 'no-no'..!!

Recently, Annika has witnessed that when all senior Oberois were advising Shivaay to let Annika leave 😡😡, he said she is his responsibility..!! In past, when Shivaay supported Annika going against Pinky, he mentioned that it's her house too.. But did he ever mention that it's as his wife? NO... And Pinky knows that very well..😡

So the question is why he wants the old Annika back😆😆... Because then he doesn't have to give excuses to keep her with him, as she will stay there anyway stating that it's her right.😆.!! Like she has done in past..!! Thus Shivaay can avoid any confrontation with anyone.. In one hand he is trying to get her memory back and on the other hand he is romancing with her so that she starts to feel for him (since he thinks Annika has lost memory is real) and then change her decision due to the attraction and stating that 'Fadak padta hai'..

Never ever in his wild dream SSO had thought to work this hard.😆😆. that's why Surbhi said in the interview that he would have never done so if it was old Annika, because he has taken her for granted..

And the funny thing is Annika even knows very well that Shivaay loves her.. That even hurts her more..

Hence she questioned her 'zimmedari ke liye aapne goli kha li?'..

And also during the confrontation she mentioned that agar ehesaas rishta jorta hai to naam uss rishta ko..' and also asked him that if she is wrong by suggesting ShiTia marriage, he can correct her with reason.. But Shivaay chose not to answer that and rather get married..!!

In an earlier OBro moment when Shivaay suggested Om that problem se bhagna nehi chahiye, uska samna karna chahiye.. But he himself has been avoiding this issue and thought to get away with it by having old Annika by his side😆😆..!! And now since it's Kalavati, so he has to come up with several excuses which Annika recognized as pareshani' and bojh'.. And she is RIGHT..!!

To me at this point, Annika knows her position in his life very well.. she knows that their esesas has not and will never overpower his belief of NKK.. exactly what SSO told to OM.. They both know that they have feelings for each other, but they will never have a future together.. And as Annika mentioned that teesre ko jana..he padta hai'.. so, she is all set to leave..!! It's her RIGHT to chose fer future and Shivaay can not decide for her like he did during their marriage..!! A SEPARATION is much needed..!!

Everything seems on track.. and I'm loving it...😃😃😃

But Kalavati drama is too stretched; they should show that Annika is actually doing something other than being a punchbag for Pinky..!!😡😡

And for Shivvay, his love is not yet there that he can do stuffs for the happiness of his loved ones.. he is still not ready to accept Annika in public, knowing well that the girl has none in her life to care for and all she needs is a family and feeling loved and respected..!! he has LOO...ONG way to go..!!

Originally posted by: --Nargis--

I was ok with everything he said...because I know this is a journey for them...and he has a lot of internal struggle to overcome...given his affinity for NKK, but the only thing that bothered me was "I can't see her as the mother of my children"...that was cold. Somewhere in his mind he has accepted TIA could possible be the mother of his child, even when he knows that she is lying...and a lying bitch is a better mother??? I see being a mother as vehicle for raising intelligent, good, morally upright children with great values, ethics, deep feelings. Someone please explain why he thinks those qualities are lacking in Annika?? As for Naam, Khoon, and Khandaan...they will be his for their children...so the only draw back is moral standing of the woman who will mother his children!!! UGH! if he was in front of me right now, i would have punched him!!😡

Originally posted by: Innika.

Anisa love,

As usual, you've managed to express the turmoil of emotions brewing inside me, better than I can myself. This post itself, had me teary-eyed. I loved it ❤️

Innika, i have been depressed since last night, after watching the two episodes.

😆 (ironic, i know)..

Felt like close friends of mine are at the verge of a breakup. LIke an impending disaster.

The whole forum has been in absolute upheaval about this one scene. I've read multiple posts discrediting the scene, and talking about how it was circumstantial and random. Agreed, I don't think that the CVs have the greatest timing for meaningful scenes, but I think that this was one O-Bro's scene that I will always hold in high light.

See, everyone is entitled to their opinions and feelings. If something made them feel a certain way, so be it na? If some want to discredit your POV because it doesn't match theirs then its a recipe for unrest 😉.. so whatever you feel, own it !

I loved that scene between Shivaay and Om, these two ooze intensity, whether they fight or just talk. Not to mention that fight scene .. yummy

I'm rarely touched with the kitchen-dancing scenes, and never with the cringeworthy DIl-Bole-Oberoi! scenes. Instead, emotional introspections that we gain on occasion, where we see heart-felt emotion coming to the forefront, really tug at my heartstrings.

Those dancing scenes are weird. makes me feel like i was watching Hum Saath Saath Hain now in 2017. I assumed it was that nostalgia that people liked, so i refrained from liking it.. 😆.. their poolside chats and room hangouts are way more meaningful.

In yesterday's episode, I thought that the transition between Omkara's struggles, and Shivaay and Annika's equation was beautifully executed. I have a sister of my own, and I could see a reflection of our conversations in ShivKara's yesterday. Indeed, Nakuul and Kunal are brilliant actors, and the scriptwriters, too, really hit the mark in that scene.

I'm not offended with what Shivaay said.

I don't think people are offended by it, Its more like a heartbroken sad reaction. we thought he was falling in love with Annika. To hear him say that, to Om of all people, felt like a huge stab to the heart, the sincerity and honesty of it all, felt painful.

Here, Annika is hoping he would choose her and stop the wedding. Although he may planned a ruse not to, but it had nothing to do with her, only about saving Om and his family, yet again. 😭

It's genuine. Painful, heartbreaking, but genuine. The worst part? Shivaay regrets it, just as we do, if not more. As you said, the melancholy in his eyes was so tangible, it gave me shivers. He honestly regrets that he can't pursue his love for Annika.

Nakuul nailed that scene, it was uncharacteristic of him to open up to Om like that. And to be so honest at that. Ripped my heart open.

I wish Annika wasn't so available to him.

As much as we hate it, feudalism is still so prevalent in society. Shivaay's thirty year old belief-system is firmly rooted into the ground, and at this point, his love for Annika will not uproot it. He knows of Annika's virtue, he knows that she's beautiful, he knows that she cares for him, as he does for her. And yet, its not enough. I keep thinking of their current situation, and all I can think of are scales.

Naam, Khoon and Khandaan on one side, and Annika on the other. As much as they both try to get her to measure up, or outweigh his values, she can't. I know that we're not supposed to talk about other shows, but I can't help it.

Perhaps it's time Annika woke up her own belief systems. Self respect and independence, is her motto. Fans have been frustrated enough with her dependence on him. No more, Annika, pls.

In Gul's other hate-love stories, the female lead will always have something about her that will draw the male lead away from her. Geet's pregnancy, Zoya's modern outlook on life. But Annika's situation is different.

The other things could be changed. No matter how much they try, no matter how much they love, they cannot change her blood. Gul and Harneet have already said, on multiple occasions, that Annika will not end up being a blueblood, because that would defeat the purpose of their story.

Perhaps the reason she is orphaned , may be due to the Oberois... Just like the NBs have their revenge drama, perhaps both Annika and her sister have lost because of Oberois too. There is a deep secret that keeps Shakti in a strange kind of permanent guilt.

I dunno, we'll habe to wait and see.

No, Shivaay will have to learn to accept her. He will need to learn to value her - to be thankful for her, to look at her and think, 'what did I do to deserve a woman as beautiful as her?'. I think the main issue is that he isn't completely in love yet. He may love her, but he's not in love with her. Love comes hand in hand with respect, and he doesn't completely respect her yet. He can't love parts of her, because when one is in love, they love wholly. So will Shivaay.

On the other hand, when it comes down to it, it will eventually be Annika holding back. After a lifetime of supressing his emotions, Shivaay will let loose one day. When he's fully in love, he'll be invincible. His love for her will only make him stronger. Annika, though she loves him, and has already acknowledged it, will not tell him. He hasn't needed to tell her, because she already knows - he won't accept her right now. And even though, in the face of the family, she has lost a lot of it - she does have self-respect, and she won't let that go. She'll let it fester, and at this point, both Shivaay and herself, are making love even more bitter for her. I hate this stupid jealousy track right now, because come on, they all know that faraq pardhta hain. For both of them.

We know that they don't want to lose each other. That they're attracted to each other. That they care for each other. We know that they need each other.

Right now, I think that they almost resent how dependent they are on each other. That he can't deal with not seeing her for one day, and that she can't bear to think about him leaving her. What we need to see now is them wanting to be each other. Sure, they want each other, but everything else in their lives take priority over that. What we need to see is them genuinely wanting to be with each other, to be able to flaunt their love for each other, to be proud of their relationship.

Right now, Shivaay is still pretending that he's marrying another woman, and Annika is still ignoring the the fact that she loves him, and is letting him go.

They're both doing what they are out of love, but inadvertently, their actions are destroying each other, as well as themselves.