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Posted: 8 years ago
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How many people here agree with Salman when he said that you would ask for the celebs' autographs outside and maybe act starstruck but inside you're shouting at them or being aggressive with them, if you met them outside you wouldn't dare to?
I know on the forum almost everybody likes the celebrities way more than any commoner because of how they are conducting themselves, but I feel the commoners hardly stood a chance in this format. Everybody on the forum is a commoner I suppose, but nobody seems to give any benefit of doubt to the commoner gang. This situation is very real and very much plausible where a person who is more popular than you, won't treat you as their equal and may even try to patronise you in a subtle way. Nobody would feel comfortable with that. The celebs may not be misbehaving or shouting but they do seem to talk mostly among themselves and only talk formally with the other gang. Common people would be obviously apprehensive of how they would get treated by those who are more famous and when there seems to be no real effort to make them comfortable from the other side, it can give rise to misconceptions.

Do people here agree with Salman though, that commoners have to keep in mind that the others are celebs and they should behave accordingly with them? Or should they treat them as equals who are participating in a show together and whatever social standing they may have outside, inside the house they are all equal and should not hesitate to behave so? What do you guys think?

PS. I know Priyanka and Guruji and Manu may be crass at times. I'm not defending them. Ignoring that point, celebs still conduct themselves in a better way obviously. It is their work. They know how to behave in front of the camera, how to carry themselves and while people like Nitibha are not far behind, most common people don't behave like that. So, that's what I'm talking about. Just because they seem more sophisticated, should they be favoured and the commoners be dismissed outright?

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Posted: 8 years ago
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salman was talking about himself i think... 😆 he feels everybody is starstruck at celebs like they are with salman
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I agree with you and not all commoners are so star struck either. Especially these so called bigg boss celebrities, I will never care to ask for their autographs.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Ghanta. People like Rohan, Karan or even Gaurav for that matter could walk beside me or next to me and I wouldn't look twice.. leave alone asking for an autograph. Starstruck is only reserved for actual Bollywood celebrities or cricketers.
The celebrities are already well-known faces so will gain more votes unless the commoners behave properly and the way normal people actually do... so we'd be able to see ourselves in dem. So no I don't think we should give them any benefit of doubt, none of us would probably start shouting/screaming at the smallest disagreements like Priyanka Jagga.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Well first of all, these so-called commoners aren't really commoners, most of them have participated in shows or have faced media. They're just struggling artists. Real commoner, Lokesh for example, hasn't stated she feels that way.

If you start from day one, commoners have always had this "us and them" attitude, and while I do agree that they all mostly only communicate in their own groups, it wasn't the celebrities who started it. And like Karan rightly said, being a celebrity is their job and they've earned it. I remember seeing Lopa bonding with akansha and Nitibha, and they both drifted apart from her. Priyanka asked Gaurav on day 2 what exactly he has worked in and if he has worked in anything "remarkable".
Mannu even today didn't know Rohan's name.
I don't think Salman meant being starstruck, but fact is if these people were outside, the strugglers would not treat them like that.


What I'm seeing from the commoners (some, not all) is a sense of insecurity, they sometimes make celebrities look bad so that they can feel better about themselves. Saying the celebrities don't know how to clean or cook properly, continuously telling them they're not real stars etc.

So, to answer your question, I can't give them any benefit of doubt because as commoners, they don't represent me. I, being a common person, would respect the people inside irrespective of their star status. Everyone is equal inside the house, the sooner they understand, the better it is.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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I think celeb or non celeb, everyone deserve respect. Commoners shouldn't respect the celebs because they are celebs but because they are humans. Same way celebs should respect the non celebs. So far the celebs have done a better job than the commoners. Maybe they are sevaak thats why they are looking good and non celebs are looking bad for being the maliks. Once the role will change we will see what happens. Then only we can know if celebs are really good or not. Right now the commoners have more attitude than the celebs. I think both the groups don't want to get much involved with the other group because they think being united will help them.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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i think salman dint literally mean what he said..i think he was just asking them to give some respect..people don't actually treat their sevaks like the way these people are treating them..not just the work burden but the language they use esp priyanka...she literally orders them..had i spoken to my maid like that she would have quit her job by now...salman was just putting across the point that had you met celebrities outside you have probably asked for autograph or been starstruck..in india i feel television actors are getting equal fanbase as any bollywood actor..in fact some actors have a bigger fanbase than the bollywood actors. i personally feel bollywood or tv actors deserve equal respect coz their profession is same just the medium is different..if you are a fan of art..the medium shouldnt bother you..but if you ask me if actors are more important than normal people then no!..and i dont think salman meant to say that...they people are not treating them like sevaks but more like gulams (slaves)...salman was saying if you had met them outside you would have been in awe just coz you are giving a task to be their owners i.e MALIKS why so much hate and disrespect?...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Navjia

Well first of all, these so-called commoners aren't really commoners, most of them have participated in shows or have faced media. They're just struggling artists. Real commoner, Lokesh for example, hasn't stated she feels that way.


If you start from day one, commoners have always had this "us and them" attitude, and while I do agree that they all mostly only communicate in their own groups, it wasn't the celebrities who started it. And like Karan rightly said, being a celebrity is their job and they've earned it. I remember seeing Lopa bonding with akansha and Nitibha, and they both drifted apart from her. Priyanka asked Gaurav on day 2 what exactly he has worked in and if he has worked in anything "remarkable".
Mannu even today didn't know Rohan's name.
I don't think Salman meant being starstruck, but fact is if these people were outside, the strugglers would not treat them like that.


What I'm seeing from the commoners (some, not all) is a sense of insecurity, they sometimes make celebrities look bad so that they can feel better about themselves. Saying the celebrities don't know how to clean or cook properly, continuously telling them they're not real stars etc.

So, to answer your question, I can't give them any benefit of doubt because as commoners, they don't represent me. I, being a common person, would respect the people inside irrespective of their star status. Everyone is equal inside the house, the sooner they understand, the better it is.



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I think what Salman was getting at is that some of the commoners (Priyanka, in particular) are taking this sevak-maalik thing too literally - they're not really sevaks. It's as Nitibha said - she could never dream of ordering the sevaks in the manner that Priyanka does. What I took from Salman's example is: strike a balance. Plenty of normal people ask for celebrity autographs; that these celebs have fanbases is a fact. So outside autograph, and inside blatant rudeness - two extremes, and there should be middle ground - treat them with the respect you would give any normal person.

I know popular opinion is that the celebs look down on the commoners and don't interact much, etc - but I think some of the commoners actually came in with a chip on their shoulders, thinking they might be seen as different' or even 'less' than the celebs, and before the celebs can treat them as such, they're overcompensating by treating them with less respect than they deserve. Most everyday people do NOT treat their house help like this. We have seen all of the celebs talking to and interacting with the commoners - in fact, when the celebs congregate it is almost always to discuss work or an issue that's happened (as Gaurav mentioned today), while the commoners are in their own group chatting and bonding.


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Posted: 8 years ago
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Salman confronted The fake commoners to behave wisely with celebs. Because they are celebrities. People love them. They have their own places and are well.known. Like Karan said, they're there because of their hardwork. So commoners need to respect this especially that cheap Manu, who can't even remember names of two well known celebs. Such a shame on Manu. And those like Priyanka, Gujjar and Baba. They act like mads as they scream and behaved.
So it was needed. And I'm sure outside the house, these commoners would have taken autographs and star struck. Here they're just insecure . For ex - Lokesh is real commoner and she loves Karan and admires him. Not everyone in commoners is a commoner, for example , Manu, Nitibha as they appeared in shows already.

The celebs only need to open more with commoners, otherwise they're doing Great. They're looking like humans.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Navjia

Well first of all, these so-called commoners aren't really commoners, most of them have participated in shows or have faced media. They're just struggling artists. Real commoner, Lokesh for example, hasn't stated she feels that way.


If you start from day one, commoners have always had this "us and them" attitude, and while I do agree that they all mostly only communicate in their own groups, it wasn't the celebrities who started it. And like Karan rightly said, being a celebrity is their job and they've earned it. I remember seeing Lopa bonding with akansha and Nitibha, and they both drifted apart from her. Priyanka asked Gaurav on day 2 what exactly he has worked in and if he has worked in anything "remarkable".
Mannu even today didn't know Rohan's name.
I don't think Salman meant being starstruck, but fact is if these people were outside, the strugglers would not treat them like that.


What I'm seeing from the commoners (some, not all) is a sense of insecurity, they sometimes make celebrities look bad so that they can feel better about themselves. Saying the celebrities don't know how to clean or cook properly, continuously telling them they're not real stars etc.

So, to answer your question, I can't give them any benefit of doubt because as commoners, they don't represent me. I, being a common person, would respect the people inside irrespective of their star status. Everyone is equal inside the house, the sooner they understand, the better it is.



Afaik, Gaurav had once mentioned something like the celebrities gang. So, whatever they may have felt or talked amongst themselves, openly that was the first time they became two gangs.
Priyanka's convo with Gaurav that day was pretty rude. I also felt that she doesn't know how to frame her sentence if she didn't mean to deliberately insult Gaurav. There are people who just don't know how to talk. Not defending her, but this proves my point that celebs are a polished lot because of their work. A non celeb will not necessarily say or do everything correctly. So, they come across as rude or crass. Not to say that Priyanka isn't though.

I don't think it is about being outside. If the task wasn't structured like this with Malik and Sewak gangs, even then I don't think commoners would've behaved like this. Sure, Priyanka and Manu might have looked for other ways to fight then but couldn't have ordered the celebs around or talked harshly to them. So, it just sort of gave them an excuse. Salman's statement seems a bit elitist to me. He could've framed it differently saying that they are as normal as others but deserve more respect than they're given.

About the celebs not cleaning or cooking properly, I don't see why that is a problem. First of all, they are in the midst of a task. Master and servant. If the servant doesn't work properly, the master should point it out. Now, of course there are different ways to do that. But just the act of saying that the food was bad or that you're not cleaning properly isn't offensive. In fact, when Priyanka told Lopa that she isn't sweeping properly and showed her by example, I thought it was mean of Lopa to say that she hasn't learned this and come like Priyanka or something.

Yes, I agree that everyone should be equal inside the house.
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