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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: MuguetDScorpion

I think celeb or non celeb, everyone deserve respect. Commoners shouldn't respect the celebs because they are celebs but because they are humans. Same way celebs should respect the non celebs. So far the celebs have done a better job than the commoners. Maybe they are sevaak thats why they are looking good and non celebs are looking bad for being the maliks. Once the role will change we will see what happens. Then only we can know if celebs are really good or not. Right now the commoners have more attitude than the celebs. I think both the groups don't want to get much involved with the other group because they think being united will help them.


I agree. Everyone deserves respect irrespective of their star status. I agree that probably it is the task which aggravated the situation. Maybe, in order to provide drama Priyanka and Manu took it a bit too far as masters.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: SP2684


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I think what Salman was getting at is that some of the commoners (Priyanka, in particular) are taking this sevak-maalik thing too literally - they're not really sevaks. It's as Nitibha said - she could never dream of ordering the sevaks in the manner that Priyanka does. What I took from Salman's example is: strike a balance. Plenty of normal people ask for celebrity autographs; that these celebs have fanbases is a fact. So outside autograph, and inside blatant rudeness - two extremes, and there should be middle ground - treat them with the respect you would give any normal person.

I know popular opinion is that the celebs look down on the commoners and don't interact much, etc - but I think some of the commoners actually came in with a chip on their shoulders, thinking they might be seen as different' or even 'less' than the celebs, and before the celebs can treat them as such, they're overcompensating by treating them with less respect than they deserve. Most everyday people do NOT treat their house help like this. We have seen all of the celebs talking to and interacting with the commoners - in fact, when the celebs congregate it is almost always to discuss work or an issue that's happened (as Gaurav mentioned today), while the commoners are in their own group chatting and bonding.



Okay, that might be one way of looking at it. Maybe, he was talking about striking a balance between those two extremes. I could accept that.

I don't understand though that would there be such hue and cry if all the contestants were commoners?Would it then seem equally disrespectful that one should order the other to do some work? If yes, then why even bring up the issue of celebrity? That is the problem I had with Salam's statement. I know the celebs have worked hard to get where they are but if you've taken part in a competition then all are equals. You cannot expect different treatment for your past achievements in that competition. By the way, Nitibha said that she hesitates to assign work to celebs and Priyanka doesn't sometimes. I think that's not right unless she would hesitate the same way with a commoner too.

Yes, it's possible that they overcompensate by behaving rudely, especially Priyanka. About interaction, I think it was less from the celebs' side. They hardly tried to bond with any commoner, with the exception of Lopa and Swami Om :P
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Dev.*

Salman confronted The fake commoners to behave wisely with celebs. Because they are celebrities. People love them. They have their own places and are well.known. Like Karan said, they're there because of their hardwork. So commoners need to respect this especially that cheap Manu, who can't even remember names of two well known celebs. Such a shame on Manu. And those like Priyanka, Gujjar and Baba. They act like mads as they scream and behaved.
So it was needed. And I'm sure outside the house, these commoners would have taken autographs and star struck. Here they're just insecure . For ex - Lokesh is real commoner and she loves Karan and admires him. Not everyone in commoners is a commoner, for example , Manu, Nitibha as they appeared in shows already.

The celebs only need to open more with commoners, otherwise they're doing Great. They're looking like humans.


Sorry I don't agree with that. They are celebrities but that shouldn't affect how they get treated in the house. Nobody wants to be a second class citizen. All are contestants of BB house and should be treated equally. I don't deny the hard work of celebs to reach where they are but that's not going to get them a special treatment in the house. Atleast that's my opinion. I am actually looking forward to the commoners treating the celebs like they would have any other commoner and likewise for the celebs.

Taking your example forward, Lokesh likes Karan. Now, if because of this she hesitates to compete with him or can't behave as his master in a task, then I am not okay with that. I want these people to feel equals, respect each other, but not treat the celebs as special...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: astha36


Okay, that might be one way of looking at it. Maybe, he was talking about striking a balance between those two extremes. I could accept that.

I don't understand though that would there be such hue and cry if all the contestants were commoners?Would it then seem equally disrespectful that one should order the other to do some work? If yes, then why even bring up the issue of celebrity? That is the problem I had with Salam's statement. I know the celebs have worked hard to get where they are but if you've taken part in a competition then all are equals. You cannot expect different treatment for your past achievements in that competition. By the way, Nitibha said that she hesitates to assign work to celebs and Priyanka doesn't sometimes. I think that's not right unless she would hesitate the same way with a commoner too.

Yes, it's possible that they overcompensate by behaving rudely, especially Priyanka. About interaction, I think it was less from the celebs' side. They hardly tried to bond with any commoner, with the exception of Lopa and Swami Om :P


@bold - I don't think the issue is ordering them to do the work so much as 'how' they're being ordered to do the work (the lack of respect and often blatant rudeness from Priyanka and Manu mainly). Salman's comment was generalised but clearly directed to these two - we haven't seen any of the other maaliks behave that way with the sevaks, and neither have the latter complained of any such.

But the fact remains that the sevaks are celebrities - yes they all are and should behave as equals in this house, but no one (neither bigg boss nor the viewers) is doing away with the distinction - the celebrities + aam aadmis is the banner this season is riding on, and hence the reference to it. Also, there is (as Navjia alluded to previously) a bit of reverse snobbery going on with some of the commoners hinting that the celebs aren't capable or good at household chores, etc because they're celebs. I recall Priyanka mentioning that 'we're aam and hence we know how to bend', for instance. This could be insecurity, overcompensation or plain rudeness.

@italic - See, I think she would - hesitate, that is. I honestly don't see any hesitation on their part stemming from the sevaks being celebs - I think its simply an awkwardness of ordering people (who aren't really your house help) to do all your work for you.

I agree that the interaction has been less from the celebs' side, but it hasn't been particularly noticeable from the other side either. But unexpectedly, Manu-Manveer literally ran to Rahul-Karan-Gaurav to ask for help in deciphering what Salman said to/about them, and were absorbing advice 😆 Also, the immediate maalik-sevak divide, and Priyanka-Manu taking it to the extreme from the word go did not help matters re any potential interactions/bondings. There's also baba being his naturally offensive self 😆 I think the smart ones from both camps would've read between the lines and will have taken a lot of positives from the WKW - lets see how things fare with the maalik-sevak switch next week.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Turn the whole scenario around, let the celebs be the maaliks and commoners be sevaks. Let them order around, and behave like commoners are behaving right now. So, would you be having this conversation then? Or wouldn't the commoners have called foul on day two? Mostly Salman was talking about mannu and priyanka, they lack manners in general, regardless of what they are.

And if everyone really is equal in the house, isn't it unfair to expect the celebrities be the ones to initiate a conversation. I haven't seen much interaction from the commoners side either. They can mostly be seen together and talking in their group.
I blame no particular group for this, people who are working together will have more time to interact and bond.
If they are together in the kitchen and cooking or cleaning somewhere, they'll bond. Similarly the commoners sit free together in their group so will bond then too.

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