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After yesterday's sweet and savoury episode, today's episode left a bitter aftertaste in my palate.

Yesterday, the episode started bitter but ended delicious.

Today, the episode started sweet but ended bitter...

However, there was nothing that doesn't happen in real life. I can't say what I saw today doesn't happen in society.

But I wanted to see nayi soch in the form of gentle correction. I wanted to see the characters pointing out the flaws in thinking and in mentality, not just keeping their mouth shut and head down as if they are at fault. After all, isn't it what happens in society? Don't we also keep our mouth shut and head down in awkward silence?

Dev calling Sona was so sweet. Sonaria disease was a good one and so was his "Bose Dose". Sonakshi also came up with a good quip on how too much "cheese" are hard to digest... Cute with hidden innuendo...

Dev bought a nightgown for Sona which she will wear while taking care of her mother-in-law.

Then comes the scene where Radha is taunting Neha on her husband's income and what she is giving her brother. This is the lady whose son blows money on alcohol and parties, let alone earning a single penny. This lady has the gal to insult the sister of the man who owns the house they are living in.

I wanted Neha to reply back sweetly: I am giving my brother my love and blessings for a happy married life. Are you giving him the same, mami?

I wanted to Ishwari to tell Radha: The gift that comes from the heart are much more precious than the gift that comes from the pocket.

She didn't stop Radha from insulting Ranveer and his family during Neha's marriage, and she didn't do anything today either.

Ishwari defends Dev like mother lion with a single cub. But the problem is that she behaves as if she only has a single cub. She never defends her own daughters.

Haldi ceremony was again cute. Dida reminded of my Dida.

(For my non-bong friends, Dida is mother's mother i.e. Nani. Father's mother is Thamma or Thammi i.e. Dadi. CVs should have researched that).

She is just like that. She is also the woman who asked me how was my honeymoon and to give her more details and when I refused, her response was she is not getting any decent romance in her daily soaps so she needs to get her fix from my life.

My husband thought it was hilarious that my 70 year old Dida is concerned about my love life.

Anyhoo, moving on from my crazy family to the night of the wedding...

The scenes of bride and groom being ready with their families were heart-touching. Specially Sona and her mother's conversation. What a role model you have, Sona. You have big shoes to fill.

But when the baraat came, I felt both sides were insensitive to other cultures. In real life people always make fun of other cultures, but why not show for once them showing respect to each other?

Bijoy, Elena complaining about the barat making noise and their dance, were as offensive as the Dixits making fun of Bengalis.

Is the noise loud? Yes. But Mr. Bose, you live in Delhi. This can't be the first north indian barat you have seen. So you should have expected that. The dignified and respectful thing would be to keep your opinion to yourself. This is different from your culture, but it doesn't mean you get to make fun of them.

But you were right when you pointed out the garbage they littered behind. That was not an insult to a culture, that was an insult to the country. You should have provided a garbage can and they should have used it.

Dixits looking stunned at Bengali Ulu is natural. Sorry bong friends, I am Bengali too. I am cool with Shankh sound. But that Ulu sound is weird even in my ears. So much so that I told my mother that I will run away from my own wedding if that sound is made. She knew I could do it, so she refrained and stopped the rest of my family from doing it. I have a weird paranoia about it ever since I saw Dushman (Kajol, Ashutosh Rana) where Ashutosh Rana makes similar sound with his finger on his lips.

So for non-bengalis that might sound like native american war-cry. It's that shrill.

However, again when Asha went to put garland on Ishwari, Dadi Bua told her not to because she is a widow. Everyone felt bad, but no one said anything.

No one gently pointed out that this garland is a welcome for new members in the family and widow or married or single, everyone should be welcomed with the same respect.

Dev fights the world for his mom. Today CVs should have showed him saying something, but he didn't. Like I said, he treats his mother like a God, not a human. God doesn't get hurt, human being does.

But I liked how Asha went ahead and in her own respectful sweet self gave a better welcome to Ishwari...

CVs, how did Sona just walk in? In Bengali wedding the bride is carried to the mandap which you are going to show yesterday. Until then the groom and his family are kept in a separate room. They don't see each other until the paan is removed from the bride's face which is called Shubha Drishti.

If they have already done away with Shubha Drishti, what's the purpose of carrying Sona then?

Just to show the confrontation about the lehenga, you made Sona take a stroll to the baraatis? Like I said, show some respect for the culture you are showing.

CVs, I am expecting an explanation regarding the attire.

Was Dadi bua right in attacking a bride in her wedding? No.

But her point was right.

CVs, you better show an explanation tomorrow why Sona didn't wear the lehenga after her speech to Neha.

The lehenga can be damaged, burned whatever in Haridwar, but there has to be an explanation.

Hypocrisy is as unpalatable to me as injustice and unfairness...

The Precap: Wedding goes on. So I am assuming either an explanation has been given or Ishwari swallowed this to be used later.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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I was waiting for your post on these issues and here it is, I agree that the beginning of the episode was a sweet one and the ending bitter. I won't deny that I loved the Dev-Sona naughty scene and I am playing it all on loop and some scenes made me keep aside the negative aspects and re-watch it.
Also the haldi ceremony scene was heart touching and sweet to watch and made me remember the playful way I acted with my cousins on their haldi ceremony.Asha-Bijoy romance was an added bonus.Ishwai's reaction on seeing Dev as groom and Asha_sona talk while she was getting ready were both such sweet scenes.

But I agree with everything that you mentioned as well
1. I'll first write about the thing that bothered me the most.Bua's comment on Ishwari being a widow and telling Asha not to put the garland.I know that this is the ugly reality and it happens in weddings/puja so I don't have any complains to CVs for showing this but yes I would have liked to see Dev speak up about it instead of standing there with a sad face.It was first and foremost his responsibility and duty as a son to object to this.Even mamaji or Asha or Bijoy could have said something in this regard.Mostly I expected this from Dev because I feel that as children if we see something like that happening with our parents then we should not be quiet.
The society's regressive thoughts and beliefs will never change unless you take an initiative to change them. How does being a widow make a person unlucky?How could a mother's participation in all the rituals considered bad luck when she would be the one person who would want the best for her child and will only shower her child with unlimited blessings. A woman lost her husband but she is still alive.She has her own identity, her own feelings, how could anybody stop her from doing anything? How can we let the society who is the first to judge our every action and word make this decision for us?How and why?

2.Next what I noticed was that when GKB was taunting Neha, not once did Ishwari step in to defend her daughter. Why?Because for her,son and daughters were never equal for her.She cares more about what people will say and not about how those words are making her daughter feel.GKB was insulting Neha and her family, both Neha and Ishwari should have shut her up.

3.The CVs went overboard with Bijoy's reactions to Baraat. Where is the respect for the Dixit family?The dance, the noise it is all part of enjoyment and weddings. In the segments as well we see Ishwari and Bua being annoyed by Bengali culture.Why?The culture or traditions may be different and you may never have experienced it but both families should respect those.

4.Lehenga- I don't know what will be the reason given in the epi but it better be a good one and not something along the lines of rituals because Sona should respect Ishwari's feelings and Dixit family rituals as well.I won't be happy to see a hypocrite Sona.Practice what you preach.
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Originally posted by: tia.o

After yesterday's sweet and savoury episode, today's episode left a bitter aftertaste in my palate.


Yesterday, the episode started bitter but ended delicious.

Today, the episode started sweet but ended bitter...

However, there was nothing that doesn't happen in real life. I can't say what I saw today doesn't happen in society.

But I wanted to see nayi soch in the form of gentle correction. I wanted to see the characters pointing out the flaws in thinking and in mentality, not just keeping their mouth shut and head down as if they are at fault. After all, isn't it what happens in society? Don't we also keep our mouth shut and head down in awkward silence?
Same here, I thought at least on the day of the wedding they will not have much of drama..😭

Dev calling Sona was so sweet. Sonaria disease was a good one and so was his "Bose Dose". Sonakshi also came up with a good quip on how too much "cheese" are hard to digest... Cute with hidden innuendo...

Dev bought a nightgown for Sona which she will wear while taking care of her mother-in-law.

I kind of found it cute...I loved the video call 😳..never even thought there would be dialogue of him buying a night dress...😉



Then comes the scene where Radha is taunting Neha on her husband's income and what she is giving her brother. This is the lady whose son blows money on alcohol and parties, let alone earning a single penny. This lady has the gal to insult the sister of the man who owns the house they are living in.

I wanted Neha to reply back sweetly: I am giving my brother my love and blessings for a happy married life. Are you giving him the same, mami?

I wanted to Ishwari to tell Radha: The gift that comes from the heart are much more precious than the gift that comes from the pocket.

She didn't stop Radha from insulting Ranveer and his family during Neha's marriage, and she didn't do anything today either.
Cant Understand why Ishwari is so quiet and not asked GKB to not speak that way...after all the greatest gift Dev can get from Neha is her love affection and respect.. Some times I feel Ishwari on purpose stays quiet...she doesnt care abt her daughters at all...I guess she is the kind of lady who think a girl is paraya dhan
Ishwari defends Dev like mother lion with a single cub. But the problem is that she behaves as if she only has a single cu😆b. She never defends her own daughters.

Haldi ceremony was again cute. Dida reminded of my Dida.

(For my non-bong friends, Dida is mother's mother i.e. Nani. Father's mother is Thamma or Thammi i.e. Dadi. CVs should have researched that).

She is just like that. She is also the woman who asked me how was my honeymoon and to give her more details and when I refused, her response was she is not getting any decent romance in her daily soaps so she needs to get her fix from my life.

My husband thought it was hilarious that my 70 year old Dida is concerned about my love life.

Anyhoo, moving on from my crazy family to the night of the wedding...

The scenes of bride and groom being ready with their families were heart-touching. Specially Sona and her mother's conversation. What a role model you have, Sona. You have big shoes to fill.

Yes that mom - daughter convo I loved it...I guess that moment happens for every girl just before the wedding..

But when the baraat came, I felt both sides were insensitive to other cultures. In real life people always make fun of other cultures, but why not show for once them showing respect to each other?

Bijoy, Elena complaining about the barat making noise and their dance, were as offensive as the Dixits making fun of Bengalis.

Is the noise loud? Yes. But Mr. Bose, you live in Delhi. This can't be the first north indian barat you have seen. So you should have expected that. The dignified and respectful thing would be to keep your opinion to yourself. This is different from your culture, but it doesn't mean you get to make fun of them.

But you were right when you pointed out the garbage they littered behind. That was not an insult to a culture, that was an insult to the country. You should have provided a garbage can and they should have used it.

Dixits looking stunned at Bengali Ulu is natural. Sorry bong friends, I am Bengali too. I am cool with Shankh sound. But that Ulu sound is weird even in my ears. So much so that I told my mother that I will run away from my own wedding if that sound is made. She knew I could do it, so she refrained and stopped the rest of my family from doing it. I have a weird paranoia about it ever since I saw Dushman (Kajol, Ashutosh Rana) where Ashutosh Rana makes similar sound with his finger on his lips.

So for non-bengalis that might sound like native american war-cry. It's that shrill.

Not at all new to it...its called "Kurava " in Kerala .

However, again when Asha went to put garland on Ishwari, Dadi Bua told her not to because she is a widow. Everyone felt bad, but no one said anything.

No one gently pointed out that this garland is a welcome for new members in the family and widow or married or single, everyone should be welcomed with the same respect.

Dev fights the world for his mom. Today CVs should have showed him saying something, but he didn't. Like I said, he treats his mother like a God, not a human. God doesn't get hurt, human being does.

But I liked how Asha went ahead and in her own respectful sweet self gave a better welcome to Ishwari..

Agreed , I just loved the scene. I didnt understand Dev's silence, I felt he should have said something in support for his mom...but Asha did the job for him ... I like the way she asked " Gale tho milsakthe hain nah" ..An affectionate hug is way too precious than the garland .

CVs, how did Sona just walk in? In Bengali wedding the bride is carried to the mandap which you are going to show yesterday. Until then the groom and his family are kept in a separate room. They don't see each other until the paan is removed from the bride's face which is called Shubha Drishti.

If they have already done away with Shubha Drishti, what's the purpose of carrying Sona then?

Just to show the confrontation about the lehenga, you made Sona take a stroll to the baraatis? Like I said, show some respect for the culture you are showing.

Then the Precap: CVs, I am expecting an explanation regarding the attire.

Was Dadi bua right in attacking a bride in her wedding? No.

But her point was right.

CVs, you better show an explanation tomorrow why Sona didn't wear the lehenga after her speech to Neha.

The lehenga can be damaged, burned whatever in Haridwar, but there has to be an explanation.

Hypocrisy is as unpalatable to me as injustice and unfairness...


Loved your post 👏⭐️
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I guess such differences happens in every Indian marriage. Here we are talking of two different cultures ,it ought to happen.

But how we deal with it makes a difference .It all depends upon maturity and sensibility of adults. There is one BADI-BUZURG Dadi bua on one side who is continuously trying to steal a chance to find out any shortcoming and imperfections. but then there is another BADI-BUZURG from Sona's side who seems so delighted with the wedding that she becomes indifferent to everything else. Though she is also well aware of her culture (I am sure about it) and can notice the flaws but to her it seems unnecessary to point that out and spoil everyone's mood and the occasion.

Be it same culture or different one need to understand that in India marriage doesn't happen between two individuals. A family ties the knot with another family .If there is a need of acceptance and adjustments then it has to be between families and not just the two individuals. Here unfortunately only Dev and Sona seems to carry the burden of acceptance and adjustments. Rest all are just creating troubles.

On a personal level I hate it when the sole purpose of a marriage becomes to pamper elders for any unreasonable things they have to say. Having said that I don't deny the respect I have for elders but sometimes it gets too much and unreasonable. I can see Ishwari doing it for Dadi bua .It gets annoying sometimes. Specially when she was trying to explain her that such things are very normal in marriages (when Vicky was teasing Elena). There was no need of explanation at that time to Dadi-Bua. One one hand Dadi Bua is smart and known enough to point out in front of everyone-- out and loud if any of her traditions are not followed or if Sona is not wearing lehenga which was given by Dixits . on another hand can't she raise her voice when someone from her family is forcefully teasing a girl from other side? I guess no culture allows that.

I hate it when people raise their voice to suit their convenience regardless of what is right and what is wrong.

A wedding is an event of celebration after all and every troublemaker needs to realize this and is expected to be a little accommodating. Asha,Dadi and Mamaji are the only people who are emoting it beautifully.

Talking of Bijoy , I don't know why but I kindda like his I DON'T CARE attitude. It looks funny.He says what he has to say without controlling his reactions. I guess he is still not over with the Heartbreak Dixits have given to his daughter.so even if the marriage gets ruined ,he doesn't give a damn. He is mentally prepared and has achieved immunity from any kind of shock that Dixits might offer him.

And yeah..agree to your point. Sensitivity towards others is necessary everywhere.Not just marriage but with everything and eveyrone we deal with in our day to day life.😊

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Very true...even though I liked most of the episode specially Dev Sona video call, haldi scenes with the awesome title track, Asha Sona emotional scene, the negatives were just too big to be ignored.
Worst was Dev or his sisters not speaking up for Ish after that Bua dadi comment. I just cannot imagine today's generation being quiet about this ..that too for their own mother. I am sure Sona or Elena would have never let this go without saying a word.

Well we have seen many scenes before also when GKB would insult Ranveer n his family and Ish n Neha wud remain quiet. And the problem is this silence only. Since they dnt reply back GKB keeps on insulting them. And I guess one way or another Ish n Neha also feels the same as GKB...that financial status of Ranveer is a big big problem, so maybe thats why they never reply back. Again I feel Sona would never remain quiet in such case.

N the much talked about lehenga...I just hope the spoilers are not correct and Sona has a valid reason..but am really confused with Sona's reaction when Dadi bua asked her abt not wearing lehenga. Why was Sona so surprised? She is well aware of the custom that shaadi ka joda comes from groom's side. Really hope Sona doesnt disappoint.
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Originally posted by: WeRockTheWorld


Cant Understand why Ishwari is so quiet and not asked GKB to not speak that way...after all the greatest gift Dev can get from Neha is her love affection and respect.. Some times I feel Ishwari on purpose stays quiet...she doesnt care abt her daughters at all...I guess she is the kind of lady who think a girl is paraya dhan.

Agreed , I just loved the scene. I didnt understand Dev's silence, I felt he should have said something in support for his mom...but Asha did the job for him ... I like the way she asked " Gale tho milsakthe hain nah" ..An affectionate hug is way too precious than the garland .

Asha is probably the sweetest woman ever and incredibly considerate.


Loved your post 👏⭐️
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Unfortunately in most Indian marriages people forget who is the focus of the wedding. Everyone start demanding their wishes to be fulfilled first while bride and groom spent their entire time pacifying both side of family members.

We are taught in India to show respect to older people and backtalk is disrespectful. But even elders can be wrong. And if they are hurtful and insulting to another, then how can you pander to someone's ego at the cost of someone else's dignity just because they have lived longer. If someone is younger, does not mean they should not be treated with respect.

Another thing that happens to Indian wedding is catering to various whims of relatives who complaints about everything ruining other people's enjoyment.

If they leave your wedding because you pointed out their unacceptable behaviour, then why is that a big deal?

The purpose of inviting people is to have their blessings and wish for a happy married life. But those who doesn't wish you well and just try to put you down, what kind of blessings are they giving you?

I wish they made a show that showed change in thoughts.

Originally posted by: Shilky88

I guess such differences happens in every Indian marriage. Here we are talking of two different cultures ,it ought to happen.

But how we deal with it makes a difference .It all depends upon maturity and sensibility of adults. There is one BADI-BUZURG Dadi bua on one side who is continuously trying to steal a chance to find out any shortcoming and imperfections. but then there is another BADI-BUZURG from Sona's side who seems so delighted with the wedding that she becomes indifferent to everything else. Though she is also well aware of her culture (I am sure about it) and can notice the flaws but to her it seems unnecessary to point that out and spoil everyone's mood and the occasion.

Be it same culture or different one need to understand that in India marriage doesn't happen between two individuals. A family ties the knot with another family .If there is a need of acceptance and adjustments then it has to be between families and not just the two individuals. Here unfortunately only Dev and Sona seems to carry the burden of acceptance and adjustments. Rest all are just creating troubles.

On a personal level I hate it when the sole purpose of a marriage becomes to pamper elders for any unreasonable things they have to say. Having said that I don't deny the respect I have for elders but sometimes it gets too much and unreasonable. I can see Ishwari doing it for Dadi bua .It gets annoying sometimes. Specially when she was trying to explain her that such things are very normal in marriages (when Vicky was teasing Elena). There was no need of explanation at that time to Dadi-Bua. One one hand Dadi Bua is smart and known enough to point out in front of everyone-- out and loud if any of her traditions are not followed or if Sona is not wearing lehenga which was given by Dixits . on another hand can't she raise her voice when someone from her family is forcefully teasing a girl from other side? I guess no culture allows that.

I hate it when people raise their voice to suit their convenience regardless of what is right and what is wrong.

A wedding is an event of celebration after all and every troublemaker needs to realize this and is expected to be a little accommodating. Asha,Dadi and Mamaji are the only people who are emoting it beautifully.

Talking of Bijoy , I don't know why but I kindda like his I DON'T CARE attitude. It looks funny.He says what he has to say without controlling his reactions. I guess he is still not over with the Heartbreak Dixits have given to his daughter.so even if the marriage gets ruined ,he doesn't give a damn. He is mentally prepared and has achieved immunity from any kind of shock that Dixits might offer him.

And yeah..agree to your point. Sensitivity towards others is necessary everywhere.Not just marriage but with everything and eveyrone we deal with in our day to day life.😊

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Sona and Elena will never stay silent because in their family if anyone hurts their own, they stand against them like a solid wall as family should. The loyalty and love Bose family have for every member of their family, Dixit family doesn't have. Also, Sona and Elena were not treated any differently than Saurabh. If anything, they were pampered more. So they have become strong women with their own opinions. Upbringing makes a huge difference in people's character.

Originally posted by: randommusings

Very true...even though I liked most of the episode specially Dev Sona video call, haldi scenes with the awesome title track, Asha Sona emotional scene, the negatives were just too big to be ignored.

Worst was Dev or his sisters not speaking up for Ish after that Bua dadi comment. I just cannot imagine today's generation being quiet about this ..that too for their own mother. I am sure Sona or Elena would have never let this go without saying a word.


Well we have seen many scenes before also when GKB would insult Ranveer n his family and Ish n Neha wud remain quiet. And the problem is this silence only. Since they dnt reply back GKB keeps on insulting them. And I guess one way or another Ish n Neha also feels the same as GKB...that financial status of Ranveer is a big big problem, so maybe thats why they never reply back. Again I feel Sona would never remain quiet in such case.

N the much talked about lehenga...I just hope the spoilers are not correct and Sona has a valid reason..but am really confused with Sona's reaction when Dadi bua asked her abt not wearing lehenga. Why was Sona so surprised? She is well aware of the custom that shaadi ka joda comes from groom's side. Really hope Sona doesnt disappoint.

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Today's cute video chat was the highlight ... Beautiful and the lovely conversation between Sona and her Mom..

How come Sona and her family have'nt discussed about the lehenga that had come from Ishwari? I was thinking about that point!!!

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