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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: bscorp13


Priya..I had sworn to not get into this discussion today but let's say ..you nailed it ..enough said...
I am tired of seeing thus constant pitting of anything done by raman to be measured against his blunders while those of ishita are conveniently forgotten since ppl believe she has paid the price or has apologized for them or that she needn't apologise since raman was more at fault..all of which are strange arguments since nothing if the sort has been explicitly shown to us yet..
If cvs chose to brush the entire why did ishita choose to leave 2 kids sc and go kill herself ( btw till now she has not been shown blaming raman or his words for it...except the one incomplete hospital scene..rather she keeps quoting the loss of ruhi as the reason too)...and raman is still not shown knowing that ishita actually tried to KI'll herself twice..he is still heard saying she went away., and ishita agrees to this most times. ...

Si coming to the point again...if cvs have chosen to ignore this whole discussion if raman abusI've words...vs ishitas running away..raman's post leap language and blunders..vs ishita deciding to 'sacrifice' her husband and family for the sake of her best friends sacrifices fir the family etc...then this should be extended equally to ramsn and ishita as a clean slate...

Wht is it that when raman is shown greiving for losing the child who was the centre of his life for 7 yrs we agsin point back at those blunders and unresolved questions..yet the same questions are rarely as k ed when ishita was missing pihu and grieving for her ..or when she is now shown emotional about missing adis growing up years or apologizing to him..

So either both should be blamed or we should take yhm cvs cv route and behave as if what happened 7 yrs back was just one of the regular fights ishra have...and both have gotten over it...all the talk of self respect and pain makes sense only if the protagonist shows that she believes this man emotionally abused her too right? Else both ishita and raman are now the ones we know pre leap..and hence we should at least be allowed to talk and discuss raman's pain as a parent. .the same as we do for ishita. ..why the seperate parameters for each..

If and when cvs give a discussion ..confrontation explaining reasons let debates happem...

I don't know if I made sense ..but strangely as a mother and a woman. .some of these views which are apparently for a woman's self respect..but totally insensitive to the whole truth and situation on both sides make me cringe..đŸ„±

No offence to anyone. .these are totally my own views on what I see and hear...


I understand your points. I also understand that there is a wide-spread expectation in this forum for explicit repenting, guilt, realization only from Raman's side, whereas looks like it is not the case with Ishita and she appears to have already done more than enough for her act the other night and her decision to stay away all these years. Anyways, it is their views and they are entitled to it.

That does not mean that we should stop ourselves from expressing what we feel and swear not to comment. Just like many feel that Ishita's fault cannot be make Raman correct, I feel that the same equally applies to Raman as well. Raman's fault do not make Ishita and her decision as correct. Both are at fault, both need to repent, realize, reconcile and sort out things, only then the meaning of marriage and companionship makes sense. I agree Raman is more at fault for instigating suicide, bringing shagun at the Bhalla's and for initiating a marriage with shagun, but then Ishita forgetting about the children and even thinking about suicide is a bigger mistake as well and has an equal role to play in the life of Pihu and Adi. This is my opinion and I am entitled to it.

If pointing out this means that I am a Raman fan or the one who blindly justifies Raman at the cost of other characters or an obsessed KP fan or a Ishita basher or a DT basher, I would prefer to remain that way, because I know for sure, that the few unbiased viewers would try & understand my POV. The rest, I don't give much importance to what they think about my views.😊.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: priyadarshini.r


I understand your points. I also understand that there is a wide-spread expectation in this forum for explicit repenting, guilt, realization only from Raman's side, whereas looks like it is not the case with Ishita and she appears to have already done more than enough for her act the other night and her decision to stay away all these years. Anyways, it is their views and they are entitled to it.

That does not mean that we should stop ourselves from expressing what we feel and swear not to comment. Just like many feel that Ishita's fault cannot be make Raman correct, I feel that the same equally applies to Raman as well. Raman's fault do not make Ishita and her decision as correct. Both are at fault, both need to repent, realize, reconcile and sort out things, only then the meaning of marriage and companionship makes sense. I agree Raman is more at fault for instigating suicide, bringing shagun at the Bhalla's and for initiating a marriage with shagun, but then Ishita forgetting about the children and even thinking about suicide is a bigger mistake as well and has an equal role to play in the life of Pihu and Adi. This is my opinion and I am entitled to it.

If pointing out this means that I am a Raman fan or the one who blindly justifies Raman at the cost of other characters or an obsessed KP fan or a Ishita basher or a DT basher, I would prefer to remain that way, because I know for sure, that the few unbiased viewers would try & understand my POV. The rest, I don't give much importance to what they think about my views.😊.


Wish I had your attitude towards stuff priya...but am glad you can empathize. .
Plus it's strange that in this forum even pain is measured by 'repentance to blunders'..so one is sc not allowed to even grieve or that it doesn't hold importance unless the person grieving , meets our expectations outside of the actual scene...
I thought at least this scene will l be spared but no..I guess pain is also not the prerogative of all..neither are emotions...

Waise sorry swati...this thread should stick to what's it meant for...a good in tense ishra scene after a while. ..

Maybe if we were blind raman supporters priya..we should have tried ignoring ishita's pain when pihu or ruhi rejected her na...why did we write long posts of how we connected to those scenes then...why didn't we quote ishita's blunders when that scene aired and saud we didnt feel a thing too...because we were waiting for her to repent😕..bizzare
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: NeerajaGirish

I think they showed Ishita realising her mistake in staying away from family for 7 years. No doubt Ishita is at fault for hiding for so many years but Raman is also equally or more at fault. First for getting surrogacy done behind the back of Ishita, instigating his wife for suicide, not letting the child know who is her mother etc.. It is very convenient for him to lay the blame on every body else except himself.


I feel I had written a similar comment as well, both are at fault, Raman more. I agree Raman acting as if he hasn't done anything wrong and Ishita rana way on her own is absolutely wrong. There are many such incidents where IshRa are shown to shy & run away from facing the biggest confrontation of their life. This is the biggest loophole here. Hence the rants about the need for proper confrontation and reconciliation. But the makers conveniently forget about that and keep adding problems in their life, thinking that viewers would forget all these. Unfortunately that is where the biggest disconnect with the show lies. Having said that, the pain of losing Pihu cannot measured in different scale with respect to Raman or Ishita. Any parent, be it a father or mother would be equally in pain and I have a feeling that Raman's pain is not being considered here, because he did all the kaands, the recent addition being the BC fiasco. That was my whole point. Glad to have had a conversation with you.😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: PinkRose95


@priya u r right.. Ishita is equally at fault.. And Kudos to both the ladies you mentioned who took a stand for themselves...
But here isn't it Ishita's condition a bit complicated? It's not about a hubby hurling curses to a normal wife but a INFERTILE WOMEN who was constantly reminded that she was a Bad omen by society and was rejected mercilessly... After marriage she believed in Raman and many times we have seen her fighting for herself WITH THE SUPPORT OF RAMAN.. .but here the night when ruhi was assumed to be dead, Raman instead of being a solace he called her a bhaanj and bad omen... A normal women in this situation will give it back to her husband saying they are my kids as well... But what Ishita will say? This is just my Pov... Just look how Cv's have messed it up.. Even after being an adultress, shagun doesn't take crap from anyone coz she has a fertile womb.. Khair this is what Cv's are capable of and there lies their creativity. .. đŸ„±


@Pinkrose95 ( I'm sorry, I do not know your name), I do understand the point about infertility. But the example I took of a CFO, she had the same infertility problem and they were undergoing lot of treatments for it. When for 8 long years, it was unfruitful, she became a frustrated woman, feeling insecure about everything and she stayed away from attending any functions. Even her husband started taunting her and called her names during this time and blamed her for completely wiping away the happiness from his life and was considering remarriage. She was shocked beyond words, because he was a kind, lovable and supportive husband all through the years. But the society's taunts and pressure from the family turned him that way. When life was getting difficult with each day for both of them, she conceived and when she wanted to break this news to her husband, he shocked her with the divorce papers and taunted her when she refused to sign. She did not even disclose the truth to him, she signed the divorce papers, walked out, stayed away from him and not even bothered to tell him that she was carrying their child. The next day he came to know about it through their friends & their gynaec, realized his mistakes and apologized. He waited until she forgave & accepted him. Despite all that he did during the pregnancy time, staying away from her, she did not let him come near her or the kid for around 1 year. Later they sat and spoke in detail, apologized and reconciled and are happy now.

Sorry for the long story, but since I have seen it in close quarters, I appreciate that woman's guts to stand for her dignity and self respect. Being an educated and modern woman, like what Ishita claims herself to be, I would have appreciated if Ishita also has done something on the similar lines. Is that not what we call as woman empowerment? Having the will & determination to face the life and overcome the challenge? Does that not education empower us with? I fear that is where the disappointment with Ishita lies for me. It may be also that I have seen such a incident close to me, that I feel what she did was absurd.

Yes, Shagun gets away with all her disgusting acts and CVs cover up with the name of fertile womb. None but CVs and the channel can realize and rectify it, if they really have social responsibility and want to endorse the Nayi soch tag in true sense.

Sorry for the long post...😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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good to see that ishra are support system to each other
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Posted: 9 years ago
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@Swati ben - I am really sorry. I have filled your segment thread with unrelated stories and rants.đŸ€”. I actually did not mean to. I just felt sad seeing how Raman's pain as a father was brushed away because of his kaands and also the comment about Adi being responsible for it. Because frankly, he is not responsible and IshRa are .
Sorry again.😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: bscorp13


Wish I had your attitude towards stuff priya...but am glad you can empathize. .
Plus it's strange that in this forum even pain is measured by 'repentance to blunders'..so one is sc not allowed to even grieve or that it doesn't hold importance unless the person grieving , meets our expectations outside of the actual scene...
I thought at least this scene will l be spared but no..I guess pain is also not the prerogative of all..neither are emotions...

Waise sorry swati...this thread should stick to what's it meant for...a good in tense ishra scene after a while. ..

Maybe if we were blind raman supporters priya..we should have tried ignoring ishita's pain when pihu or ruhi rejected her na...why did we write long posts of how we connected to those scenes then...why didn't we quote ishita's blunders when that scene aired and saud we didnt feel a thing too...because we were waiting for her to repent😕..bizzare


Sorry Pb. Just now saw this message. Leave it Pb. No use ranting about it. Our sanity would go for a toss if we give so much of importance to all these comments.

Actually, the post which Swati made yesterday about life & need of positivity was much needed, but then looks like something will never change in this forum. I am unable to bear this negativity for 4-5 months, I wonder how you all managed for 2+ years. 😕

Take for example, even after I thought we had a healthy discussion in this thread about IshRa together failing as parents for Pihu, the same people go to another thread and mock our discussion, saying we wanted Ishita to suffer and are happy about the pain, because she chose to run away and we wanted to cover up for Raman's birth certificate fiasco. From all that was discussed here , I am not able to draw any such inferences 😕. Did I even mention that Raman does not owe an apology to Ishita about this kaand or Raman need not repent and own up to his mistakes?đŸ˜Č . If you guys get such a meaning from my posts , please do let me know. I would like to know which message of mine conveys that meaning. 😊

It is my mistake that I chose to share a personal experience, in trying to put across a POV and have a healthy discussion. I never thought people would even mock & pass sarcastic comments about this in a different thread. Khair...đŸ„±. Another learning (experience ??😊) for me, in terms of what to do, what not to do & who to interact in this forum.😊

@Swati - Thanks again for coming up with the post about "Life is Precious". I read that post repeatedly to be positive when I'm around in this forum.😛
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Pihu is like a trophy for Shagun.

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