Who broke our relations

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Posted: 9 years ago
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I cant take it man. Really it is so hard. When I watching the episode today I had my fist clenched asking me to watch. Understand. Because the message is really really big. What did we see today. Over Abhay and Asad some existing beautiful relations broke. And what was the reason of that breaking relations. Half knowledge. I knew when Adarsh make judgement he will make it based on what Asad and Haider said during that meeting in which Manohar Suhas asks to cancel the wedding.
And see the reality. A muslim fanatic send those bullets into a duty bound police officer and a hindu royal hypocrite made a muslim youngster a terrorist. Before death both Abhay and Asad were moving around like brothers and even in end they wanted to maintain brotherhood only.
But without understanding what Abhay and Asad wanted the people surrounding them started fighting over them. While the real terrorist Iftikaar and the white collar terrorist Yash are having a gala time.
Is the pain of Subaida less than that of Suhas. Still people understand Suhas, but not Subaida. Was the contribution of Asad, less than that of Abhay. Yet Abhay becomes a martyr and Asad a terrorist.
This is what happens in life. The power mongers like Iftikaar, and people with personal grudge like Yash make innocents victim to their power games. And the rest of the world without understanding these culprits ends up fighting with each other.
Understand that relations are our strength and we need to weed out not only terrorists like Iftikkar, but bring out people like Yash Bundela if we want to have lasting peace.
And we should not react to anything someone tells unless we verify the facts. If not immediately we have to sit and verify. We need to see if something can be corrected. And corrective steps are not taken and as time passes it will be difficult. Because from generation to generation half baked stories will flow. And the truth will lie somewhere buried.
And the truth of India's freedom is buried somewhere. We were partitioned based on religion. It was innocents like Abhay and Asad died. And it was over them fights and riots happened, while the ones who perpetuated the partition went scot-free. They even ruled us and we continue to fight.
And when I talk about the political games I really want to talk about the recent tamasha of intolerance and award vapsi. How many thought before reacting the timing of that incident. What happened in Dadri was unfortunate and should not have been happened. The culprits whoever they are needs to be punished. But did that spell intolerance in India, and did it require award vapsi.
And indeed if you think there was intolerance and it required award vapsi I also have some questions
- Why didn't intolerance and award vapsi happened when ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Pandits happened in 1980. These people can never go back to their home towns and they are scattered in Delhi and surrounding area
- Why didn't intolerance and award vapsi happened in 1984 when Sikhs were killed on the street and till now not a single person punished for that carnage
- Why didn't intolerance and award vapsi happen in 1984 Dec 4 when Bhopal Gas tragedy happened . Generations are suffering the effect of that gas tragedy
- Why didn't intolerance and award vapsi happen in 1992 when babri masjid was destroyed and the subsequent riots and bomb blast resulting in killing of hundreds
- why didn't intolerance and award vapsi happened when Nirbhaya was brutally killed on the streets of Delhi.
So what is the criteria of award vapsi, what is the criteria of to say we have intolerance. It's time we think and analyze these breaking news.
Indian democracy allowed a man selling tea to rise to the top most position of the country as Indian Prime Minister. That's the power of our democracy where everyone has oppourtunity if they utilize it the right way. Who wants to kill this system for their personal gains, so that power is centred around a select few because they are born with silver spoon. And if someone breaks their ranks they cannot take it, just like Yash couldn't take Asad. We have to think.
We have to analyze and we shouldn't break our relations with neighbours, friends because of some news. Learn to validate. Learn to differentiate. Only then our democracy will thrive.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Shru i personally agree to what u said..👏. but it was a momentary reaction.. as if u keep urself in the place of adharsh or suha or jay or anyone else in that place they could have reacted in the same way like the characters reacted yesterday.

Secondly still in india power and money wins over truth... If you take any case due to the power money or influence truth is buried.. And as you say justice delayed is justice denied..

If a dying person requires water , somehow we have to feed him with water, whats the use of the water when we feed the same water after his death..

Same way when and where justice is required it has to be given , whats the use of the justice when its given after the sacrifices of the individuals family involved in the tragedy...

My question is just because he has kept the gift , how can they confirm that haider's are terrorist.

Now i m sure that yash is in this position is not due to his credibility but due to his dad's influence n money power.

That reporter , these people don't have shame , just to save their ass off n to get rankings , ratings for their channel they just want scoop n want to be famous n for that they can go to any extent.

Swa is more mature that ramakrishnan's and sinha's...

Edited by yawfeh - 9 years ago
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Gayatri I am not telling the characters reactions were unrealistic. I was just telling this is what happens and this is what power mongers want to happen. Divide and rule. One generation emotions were involved, but cant we the new generation without bias go through what happened. We were not there anyways. A lot of our past lies buried and keeps on coming again and again. Why. Because no one tried to close it.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hey Shruti, Liked the way you have found the similarities between the current sitiuation in india and the show. Currently there are two shows running with almost simliar hindu/muslim rift content. The other one is tamanna and it is also a nice show. In india there has always been this situation. few power hungry people have always supported the terrorists and sympathized with them. Like they showed in Alan broad issue. I just hope that our generation will understand the scenario and bring some change.

Just one question to you, do you think that the writers want to show haider as yakub and asad as ishrat jahan. i am not sure but the situation depicted is almost same. the controversies over them were almost same.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Gayatri I am not telling the characters reactions were unrealistic. I was just telling this is what happens and this is what power mongers want to happen. Divide and rule. One generation emotions were involved, but cant we the new generation without bias go through what happened. We were not there anyways. A lot of our past lies buried and keeps on coming again and again. Why. Because no one tried to close it.


shruthi there will be no change.. expecting the change will be mere stupidity on our part. divide n rule was there is there will be there.. if a person makes n attempt to clear it then for making the attempt he is was n will be blamed..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: yawfeh

Shru i personally agree to what u said..👏. but it was a momentary reaction.. as if u keep urself in the place of adharsh or suha or jay or anyone else in that place they could have reacted in the same way like the characters reacted yesterday.

Secondly still in india power and money wins over truth... If you take any case due to the power money or influence truth is buried.. And as you say justice delayed is justice denied..

If a dying person requires water , somehow we have to feed him with water, whats the use of the water when we feed the same water after his death..

Same way when and where justice is required it has to be given , whats the use of the justice when its given after the sacrifices of the individuals family involved in the tragedy...

My question is just because he has kept the gift , how can they confirm that haider's are terrorist.

Now i m sure that yash is in this position is not due to his credibility but due to his dad's influence n money power.

That reporter , these people don't have shame , just to save their ass off n to get rankings , ratings for their channel they just want scoop n want to be famous n for that they can go to any extent.

Swa is more mature that ramakrishnan's and sinha's...


@ Bold You gave said the very right thing. We all know Adarsh will sometime in future come to his senses. And then will support the truth. But what is the use of it then. When gilani's and Swa needed it the most he was not there.
Also i did not like it how easily he has accepted his champ to be a terrorist.

@red Also Adarsh and Swadheenta both knew that the gift was given by arvind. i agree for Asad there are'nt any valid proofs right now, but for mamu there are proofs. The police arrested him on the spot, and without investigating labelled him a terrorist. Adarsh and swadheenta both knew that the gift was given by arvind, why dint they speak up. Also adarsh now is in grief due to abhay's death but then he was in his senses. would he have behaved like this if his own father was in mamu's place
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hi shruthi,
I walked around the house like a zombie after watching the episode, it is like I have lost someone close to me. Makers wanted us feel the pain the characters were feeling and it worked. today the gilani's and swadheenta found out and tomorrow, it will be simmi's turn. blow after blow with no respite, I wish this would just end because I cannot take it any longer. every episode is a struggle to get through these days.
even reading the written update is painful.

anyways, I'm not indian therefore not too familiar with its history. so I cannot comment but one thing stood out to me- that is zubeda and suhasini. their pain is the same, both lost young sons but what makes suhasini's agony greater to the eyes of society? that her son died as a martyr. so did asad but because of half knowledge, no one knows it or even considering a different option. to the world, asad jilani was terrorist but to zubeda, he is her 18 year old son. why does she not deserve any sympathy? this as has been haunting me since I watched the episode.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sur89

Hey Shruti, Liked the way you have found the similarities between the current sitiuation in india and the show. Currently there are two shows running with almost simliar hindu/muslim rift content. The other one is tamanna and it is also a nice show. In india there has always been this situation. few power hungry people have always supported the terrorists and sympathized with them. Like they showed in Alan broad issue. I just hope that our generation will understand the scenario and bring some change.

Just one question to you, do you think that the writers want to show haider as yakub and asad as ishrat jahan. i am not sure but the situation depicted is almost same. the controversies over them were almost same.

Ishrat comparision with Asad is a possibility, as that was an encounter based death and we still do not know if she was only with them or aiding them. We will never know the truth
Haider's case cant be compared to Yakub as yakub was a terrorist and was proved. I think the controversy over him was as he decided to help the police and give information should he have been given death penalty. there his own family members were terrorists and he was responsible for transferring money here and there. his situation is somewhat similar to manohar maybe😕 though not entirely
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Also when Swa saw the news she ran to Adarsh n her in laws to support them , but when asad's news broke everyone left swa in the room with the body. Even she lost her brother, she also needs support , what if he was a terrorist , not for her though. Altleast Adarsh sud have stayed there with swa giving her a shoulder to cry, instead of just moving out with anger.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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reading a comment by @pomegranate in the forum. The gun it will have fingerprints of only arvind and the other terrorist guy. Asad did not touch the gun. That is a very big proof.

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