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Jemimah90

@Jemimah90

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Posted: 9 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: naq5

@ Bold You gave said the very right thing. We all know Adarsh will sometime in future come to his senses. And then will support the truth. But what is the use of it then. When gilani's and Swa needed it the most he was not there.
Also i did not like it how easily he has accepted his champ to be a terrorist.

@red Also Adarsh and Swadheenta both knew that the gift was given by arvind. i agree for Asad there are'nt any valid proofs right now, but for mamu there are proofs. The police arrested him on the spot, and without investigating labelled him a terrorist. Adarsh and swadheenta both knew that the gift was given by arvind, why dint they speak up. Also adarsh now is in grief due to abhay's death but then he was in his senses. would he have behaved like this if his own father was in mamu's place

@naq many times in real life too we get vaida for big cases be it hit n run of salman case or any other case for reference but the real culprits are never punished.. with the power of money and influence they escape easily.. justice is lost way earlier in india.. sad to say that..!!!

if u take the talwar case as an example how the original case was butchered badly n public was confused🥱

though we say that without seeing analysoing dont jump to conclusions but in reality people jump to conclusions and then check with reality..

The thing i m irritated is pehle naam pe kichad uchalo ,phir badnaami karo ,phir maaro peeto ,phir unki zindagi barbaad karo, phir kari koti sunaao , hurt them n their soul.. n whole public media newspapers radio police lawyer judge friends neighbours relatives everyone bloody person watches all tamasha n then after the fight the justice may or maynot prevail.. if it prevails n asad will be given the honour by the government .. whats the use?? yeh sab karney ke baad what they will have? ek insaan ki jeene ki shamtha hi chali jaayegi after all this mess then what he /she will get with the reward??

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Jemimah90

@Jemimah90

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Posted: 9 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@Gayatri to tell it wont change is like telling this is our fate. But as a person I believe if we want change will happen. For that as a person we have to change a bit of our perspective, that's it.

@shru we can change our perspective n have hopes but just like us many others or you can say each person should think alike..

for instance people are loving finite series these days but still its not garnering trps so many channels arent accepting to take even the good story.. they want the same cliched types from where they can earn money..

same way in real life its happening to make money anyoine can go to any extent in society 😊

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Soapoperasrfun

@Soapoperasrfun

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Posted: 9 years ago

#23

Shru 🤣. Mein dahleez ki dahleez paar hi nahi kar paa rahi... Everything to me is in this context. Anyways, I thought you replied to a question which was about yesterday's episode of why Swa went to Sinha's and not Jilani's. Hence the discussion.

Forget that. I wanted to ask one more thing since the last couple of days... In my defense of Adarsh, I forgot this bit 😆.

Abhay knew that Asad was innocent and was helping them. He knew that Yash knows this too. So, in the end, why did he think that if he dies, the truth will die with him. In those few moments, he could not have known that the police think that Asad shot at him. And Asad was dead by then anyway. So, he must have known that Yash will help clear out Asad's name.

Yes, he wanted to do his bit too. So I understand him wanting to say it. But why think that if he dies, no one will know that truth? Did he doubt Yash too?😕

Edited by Soapoperasrfun - 9 years ago

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#24

@pri Abhay feared Yash might not support Asad. You can say instinct and also he was witness to the spat. Tu Abhay ke team mein hai, abhay ke saath rah.

Abhay is a police officer, the way Yash said that his body language, in his dying moments that police instinct, his years of training and experience might have come to fore that if he dies Asad name will be tarnished.

@Gayatri change is slow, but it happens. 5-6 years back there was no finite series. But then Ek Hasina thi happened, then Everest, then Reporters, 24, Sumit Sambhal lega,Tammanna, Dahleez and above all Ek tha Chander Ek thi Sudha. You are only looking at TRPs. I am looking at the frequency at which they are happening. No one can negate the fact that they are happening. I had put earlier also. Multiplex and satellite rights changed the face of Indian Cinema. Digital content will change the face of Indian TV. With a library of shows that can be watched from where revenue comes whenever people watch it and a way to measure digital TRP conclusively more such things will come. Now I heard SP has got rights of Hindi remake of Homeland. I have been getting good reviews regarding the original show and I am waiting for Hindi version. So if SP and Sony is experimenting they will not do it without ROI in sight. So it will happen.

It is like that in every space. Some change is disruptive, but some is gradual . 10 years back inter caste marriage was big hungama in my community. Now if the girl/boy is hindu accepted. It has made that much progress.

When I went to B-Tech in 1999 I was among the handful of girls in my community who went for engineering as mostly boys from our community went for it. Today almost every 2nd girl is a B-Tech graduate.

I have seen change, I have felt change and that is why I say change is the only constant.

Edited by shruthiravi - 9 years ago

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Soapoperasrfun

@Soapoperasrfun

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Posted: 9 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@pri Abhay feared Yash might not support Asad. You can say instinct and also he was witness to the spat. Tu Abhay ke team mein hai, abhay ke saath rah.
Abhay is a police officer, the way Yash said that his body language, in his dying moments that police instinct, his years of training and experience might have come to fore that if he dies Asad name will be tarnished.

Humm. That is what I thought. Damn this Yash. Even Abhay knew his cheapness.

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skydome

@skydome

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Posted: 9 years ago

#26

EXCELLENT DISCUSSION! This serial is so... Real, of course, it is very difficult to digest the series of tragedies ( but I think this is how things happen in terrorist attacks), but this serial has brought forward the GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY!

I hope the present generation is smarter than their predessesors , and will not be fooled like in the past👍🏼

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tttttt1

@tttttt1

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Posted: 9 years ago

#27

Interesting post

Partially I agree ,partially I disagree

I agree with the first part of your post stereotypeing I'd dangerous...that's what was depicted in azads case ...like you said royal Hindu family martyr and Muslim family terrorist

Now from reel to real

if azad was a Hindu whether the sceen would be any different ...considering the present scenario there is a lot of stereotypical opinion going around that's causing divide too ,as muxh as one religious leaders are responsible so is the other

These are all in my opinion to create divide ,polarise ,just so that these politicians can be assured of their share of votes ,that was what was called as intolence by a fee section of the society. So I don't completely disagree with the award wapsi brigade

Also the issue was never dadri. Issue was raising divide and polarising stands my a leading party to give. Areligious flavour to every single thing happening

PS typo its my.phone

Edited by tttttt1 - 9 years ago

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Srividya

@moonwearer

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Posted: 9 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
Gayatri I am not telling the characters reactions were unrealistic. I was just telling this is what happens and this is what power mongers want to happen. Divide and rule. One generation emotions were involved, but cant we the new generation without bias go through what happened. We were not there anyways. A lot of our past lies buried and keeps on coming again and again. Why. Because no one tried to close it.

Power corrupts and absolute power makes one into a monster to hold on to it. There is always a wielded underlying bias in all the social welfare measures. Our media aptly called Presstitutes does anything and everything to be news breakers...in the process are breaking all rules of Ethics and moral responsibility.
I had 7 year olds asking who is a rapist and what is rape as day after day after day our news rooms and News papers scream the word...4 year olds give words like tornado for T as beginning sound and quick enough TERRORIST some one else calls out...So responsibility gets negated...Self styled leaders in all walks in a bid to consolidate power position unleash hatred and fear in the hearts of folks

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#29

@ttt is religion the only form of intolerance and if that is so only one form of religion. That's why I specifically highlighted Kashmiri Pandits, Sikhs and of course Babri Masjid. Nothing has divided the society more sharply than the Babri Masjid and its aftermath. If today one party is being accused of polarising the votes, what about the party that started it when it got the upper hand with Babri Masjid.

Look the picture as a whole, not as half is my take. Terrorizing people against one party the other party doesnt realize that another section is hugely disappointed with it, which gives undue privileges in terms of religion while claiming Batla House, Ishrat Jehan etc as not terrorist activits. It is like insulting the martyrs and hiding the culprits.

Can someone please go in the valley and do an award vapsi for those pandits who lost their land one fine morning. Does someone dare. My only question is that. If they can do it. Well I am fine with Dadri also.

Edited by shruthiravi - 9 years ago

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naq5

@naq5

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Posted: 9 years ago

#30

@ Shruti in yesterday's episode if u see Arvind was talking about using the innocence of Haider gilani & his false conviction to lure more muslims into becoming terrorists. this is the way it is done.

Also with few false cases like Haider gilani these terrorists and politicians will convert even the real terrorists cases into innocents.