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Posted: 9 years ago

#91

Originally posted by: Zoyamalik2005

we are all confused.
i think it would be an injustice to reunite them this easily, it just wouldn't make any sense either
plus, raman hasn't suffered enough
his suffering is going to be focused on a lot

i have no idea what they will show to be the new catch

I'm just gonna enjoy the idea of shaguniya suffering, and roman's facade finally cracking.
and the whole custody issue, ishita cried right in front of mani, he knows she doesn't want to put pihu through that

i sincerely hope it ends here.
if it doesn't, thats highly illogical, she has to sign some petition or something. she doesn't even know anything
but alas, cvs pagal hai.

Raman hasn't suffered enough that we've seen so now everyone's just waiting for it 😆. Twisted story telling I see here where for ML suffering equates the start of redemption...I against hope want him to do something useful for the track (either Ruhi reveal or anything) but I know what won't happen bc as of now while Ishita and co are doing the needful, he's wallowing 🤔

I mentioned custody in the following sense - if I want Ishita to stand up to herself to Raman, I would also like to see her voice her unhappiness at Mani and Bala's actions. Why should that get slipped under the rug when it too took away Ishita's power? Should we expect just Raman to be taught a lesson and no one else...khair chodo bc just like Ishita-Mani shaadi announcement...custody was just shoved in to make Raman burn and turn

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Zoyamalik2005

@Zoyamalik2005

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Posted: 9 years ago

#92

Originally posted by: -K.13-

Raman hasn't suffered enough that we've seen so now everyone's just waiting for it 😆. Twisted story telling I see here where for ML suffering equates the start of redemption...I against hope want him to do something useful for the track (either Ruhi reveal or anything) but I know what won't happen bc as of now while Ishita and co are doing the needful, he's wallowing 🤔

I mentioned custody in the following sense - if I want Ishita to stand up to herself to Raman, I would also like to see her voice her unhappiness at Mani and Bala's actions. Why should that get slipped under the rug when it too took away Ishita's power? Should we expect just Raman to be taught a lesson and no one else...khair chodo bc just like Ishita-Mani shaadi announcement...custody was just shoved in to make Raman burn and turn

mani questioned ishita's marriage to raman before. and ishita shut him down there and then.

she shut down his marriage proposal

she has made it clear mani will only remain her friend

he keeps overstepping the mark though

and its irritating.

and bala, i cannot believe he was the on with the idea

her whole family is failing ishita

and honestly, she doesn't need to just shut down mani and bala,

she needs to shut everyone down.

her parents anguish i understand, but they are so inadequate when it comes to emotionally supporting her. where were they when she walked away and threw herself of a cliff?

and how are they dealing with her now. it makes me angry that everyone expects ishita to just give. she needs to ask for something in return. she wasn't born to just forsake her happiness again and again, with no one being by her side.

Edited by Zoyamalik2005 - 9 years ago

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Pasoori

@ChanChanMan

Rocker

+ 6

Posted: 9 years ago

#93

To your above post Zoya

It's only very rare that one finds someone who loves them wholeheartedly

... IshRa are those selfless lovers; selfish for each other

Edited by Badtameez_Dil_1 - 9 years ago

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.riah.

@.riah.

Voyager

Posted: 9 years ago

#94

Originally posted by: QueSeraSera

Sigh



I'm trying, so hard
too to get over this show believe you me and then comes along the talent of DT
& KP, who make it impossible NOT to watch, so I resort to the next best
thing not trying to get too deep into discussions but you come along Zoya and
make posts and my fingers find a will of their own as they reserve a spot to
comment because darn it, I'm tempted😳



As usual you have
made a lovely post and so without fail my fingers, sneaky traitors😡 did their job and here I
am...



Usually when people
speak of love they want unicorns and rainbows, roses and honey but they forget
about love being multifaceted - love is all of the above mentioned
things, well not unicorn😆😆but the rest are
possibly to attain - roses given to a beloved, honey tasted in the form of
kisses and words spoken, and rainbows witnessed while sharing a single umbrella
when trying to be shielded from a torrential outpour or soaking in it carefree
and joyous...





But there always
exist two sides of a coin - for a rainbow, one has to endure a storm; roses
come with thorns that can prick and cause bleeding, sometimes despite the most
careful attention paid and honey well too much sweetness can be nauseating and
diabetes inducing too😆😆



So is love - it is
full of thorns and storms, it can be sickeningly sweet but it can also burn and
that is precisely what we witnessed last night - the man who was trying to
inflict pain on the woman he loved to the point of madness, burning up himself.



If love is heaven it
can be hell too - especially if it is of the kind that is so all consuming -
like it is here or was in one of the greatest classics ever written, my
favorite dark love story - Wuthering Heights by Emily Bronte.



Raman IMO is to
Heathcliff what Ishita it to Cathy - he would have her in hate if not in love,
whether the hate is his for her's or her's for him - so long as he can be
connected to her he doesn't care - he can endure hate and anger, he can't
endure indifference and being isolated from her.



The gist of which can
be found in these lines -



"May she
wake in torment!" he cried, with frightful vehemence, stamping his foot,
and groaning in a sudden paroxysm of ungovernable passion. "Why, she's a
liar to the end! Where is she? Not there"not in heaven"not perished"where? Oh!
you said you cared nothing for my sufferings! And I pray one prayer"I repeat it
till my tongue stiffens"Catherine Earnshaw, may you not rest as long as I am
living; you said I killed you"haunt me, then! The murdered do haunt their
murderers, I believe. I know that ghosts have wandered on earth. Be with me
always"take any form"drive me mad! only do not leave me in this abyss, where I
cannot find you! Oh, God! it is unutterable! I cannot live without my life! I cannot
live without my soul!"


Emily Bront,Wuthering Heights


In momentary glimpses
if you notice carefully - in the hospital when Ishita assured Pihu she would
not take her anywhere, like you said; he is unable to meet her eyes and even in
the police station a little before that when his son straight forward without
mincing words tells him that does he realise how much in pain everyone is
thanks to him? And the father looks away because - yes, he does, he is in the
most pain himself and while since her return everyone has been able to claim a
piece of Ishita, have her back and been lovingly embraced by her - he is the only
one who has yet to find that solace, that peace.





And the worst part
about it is, he himself has assured that and assumed it that he is no longer as
important to her as she is to him, why, because she chose to leave him despite
knowing his fear of losing her and stayed away from him - knowing the
loneliness that would engulf him in her absence. What he fails to accept in
that anger and agony of the torment he bore the brunt of all these years, years
wherein he loathed himself for losing the two people he loves dearly - killing
one of them himself, not literally but ensuring that she doesn't want to live
any longer is that he had a hand in driving her away all those years ago and
just as she had the power to unleash hell upon him with her absence, he had the
power to thrust her in the pits of hell by hisvitriolicwords.



He couldn't have her
in all these years and even after her return found she might not be his and
based on that one assumption decided to give her hell - the same she left him
in. His words, accussations, his anger he directed it all at her. He started to
build his arsenal from his tears and frustration, loneliness and anger and
turned it all into a vengeful, hate.



And he saw her take
it all - without a word, without so much as a reaction until lately and as much
as it pleased him to lash out on her, it hurt him to find indifference fo him -
with her no reaction stance...



He turned mad and
outrageous in his fear of losing the one reason he had been left with to live
for when he felt he would lose her as well - but the moment she surrendered, he
felt he lost once again..Why? Because she chose to give up on that one link
which connected them and would forever keep them connected - like she said, she
lives on in Pihu, their impossible dream, their child - an amalgamation
of him and her.



And so in his anger
did what came naturally to him, he handed the child to the one woman whom he
can't ever in his heart embrace again as anything to him despite proclaiming to
one and sundry he'd marry her and walked off. Trying to hurt her for giving up
on him once again as well as their family.



But until last night
he had one assurance - she might not be his but she wasn't anyone else's too
yet...so in a twisted way, she was still his - to love, to hate, to hurt, to
want back...



However when he
learned she is now gonna commit to another man - become his, it was more than
he could take, it was the blow he didn't see coming...



It was like he
finally has lost her and the very idea drives him crazy - how can it happen,
how can she belong to someone else and not him - this woman who he loves to the
point of insanity and it hits him square in the gut...that if this happens, if
she goes through with it - this time his loss would be forever.



He is spiralling down
and unravelling - his politedemeanor yesterday when he saw her with
another man, that very man he once thought was eligible and perfect for her -
he controls himself because in his mind - they are now a unit and he has no
rights whatsoever over her but the moment she comes to him...all that is once
again but on the backburner because how can she, how can she leave him again
and this time forever for another man - for all his words of nonchalance, what
he displays is pain - unimaginable and unbearable - because of the mere idea of
losing her.



And that is a hell
far worse to him than the one he lived in for the past seven years - the hell
of knowing she is around, alive and well and not his, happy but not because of
him, smiling but not with him and probably in love - but not wiht him...



He endured the void
she left him in thinking at least in his memories and hate and anger she is
still his, and forever shall remain so - but this, this is far worse, to know
she is alive and happy but he's not the one sharing that life with her, making
her happy, basking in the sunshine that is her smile.



And her walking away
from him is the abyss which petrifies him...

That's such a beautiful write up 😳
So thoughtful and positive.
I'm looking forward to more posts from all you guys now that the track looks slightly more interesting 😃

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-K.13-

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Sparkler

Posted: 9 years ago

#95

Originally posted by: Zoyamalik2005

mani questioned ishita's marriage to raman before. and ishita shut him down there and then.
she shut down his marriage proposal
she has made it clear mani will only remain her friend
he keeps overstepping the mark though
and its irritating.

and bala, i cannot believe he was the on with the idea

her whole family is failing ishita
and honestly, she doesn't need to just shut down mani and bala,
she needs to shut everyone down.
her parents anguish i understand, but they are so inadequate when it comes to emotionally supporting her. where were they when she walked away and threw herself of a cliff?

and how are they dealing with her now. it makes me angry that everyone expects ishita to just give. she needs to ask for something in return. she wasn't born to just forsake her happiness again and again, with no one being by her side.

That's what is frustrating to me...on one hand we have Adi and co rightfully questioning Raman but the other hand we have the Iyers making decisions for Ishita that slip through the cracks. Should they also not be educated on how they are undermining Ishita and making things worse for her and Raman? Even if they don't want IshRa together again - it should be Ishita's decision; not anyone elses. And custody is even worse of an issue to do behind someone's back.

Like these two topics were clearly risen to make Raman lash out even more...but they deserve a closure to.

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Aani

@EkPahelii

Stunner

+ 4

Posted: 9 years ago

#96

Originally posted by: bscorp13
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Thank you for this comment😛👏. .esp the wuthering heights bit..Raman Kumar Bhalla..is like Heathcliff at many levels. .I had said this in a post long time back too. One of my fav fictional characters thus one...

And yes his passion to love and hate are at such extremes that the lines just blur at some points. He hates Cathy with as much or as more vengeance as he loves her., heck even in death. ..
Reminded me of Ishita's dialogue to Mani few days back 'You can never love ne as much as Raman hates me'..and that purely sums up what RKB is..and his deep passion for the only person who can get such a response from him, love , hate, anger, jealousy everything. .it's all in excess when it comes to ishita for him..
And thats precisely the reason for all the anger ...it's still a fact that no one can ever love her with a passion that he does. .only he can..😊

Hi thanks 😊

I dont think we have interacted before but its good to know another WH fan 😃 I'm Aani btw, may I know your name 😳

@bold - absolutely agree - when it comes to Ishita he cant feel anything halfway

@blue - your words remind me of a line from Dhadkan by Sunil Shetty when he says Jitni mohabbat maine Anjali se ki hai utni koi bhi nahi kar sakta

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Aani

@EkPahelii

Stunner

+ 4

Posted: 9 years ago

#97

Originally posted by: dreamzsrk
No words to express what I feel currently. Amazing!
👏

Thanks 😊

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Aani

@EkPahelii

Stunner

+ 4

Posted: 9 years ago

#98

Originally posted by: Veeann

Aani that is just so beautiful.

Raman's obsessive love for Ishita is the passion the junoon many dream of - it has its dark side as you say, but it can give so much too, which is why Ishita cannot stay away from him either.

I am not a seasoned Hindi tv watcher - I sincerely hope Sharam wedding does not take place, and I have been feeling so down from the sbs/sbas clips, but reading your post just gave me a renewed belief in the wonder of Ishra and I dare to hope the cvs will not destroy this beautiful convoluted relationship for the tripe blandness of Sharam.

Thanks Vee 😊

@bold - yep like everything has two sides a love so passionate as this is bound too to, it can make you experience highs like no other and lows beyond imaginations in equal measure

@blue - unless they are suicidal it wont 😉😆😆

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Aani

@EkPahelii

Stunner

+ 4

Posted: 9 years ago

#99

Originally posted by: Riahshroff
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That's such a beautiful write up 😳
So thoughtful and positive.
I'm looking forward to more posts from all you guys now that the track looks slightly more interesting 😃

Thanks Riah 😊

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bscorp13

@bscorp13

Sparkler

+ 2

Posted: 9 years ago

#100

Originally posted by: QueSeraSera

Hi thanks 😊

I dont think we have interacted before but its good to know another WH fan 😃 I'm Aani btw, may I know your name 😳

@bold - absolutely agree - when it comes to Ishita he cant feel anything halfway

@blue - your words remind me of a line from Dhadkan by Sunil Shetty when he says Jitni mohabbat maine Anjali se ki hai utni koi bhi nahi kar sakta

Thanks Aani..:)

You can call me PB..😛

Yup , I am a huge WH fan and it's one of the reasons for a lifelong obsession with dark,brooding, tortured male characters/leads😉😆..