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Posted: 9 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: Cerealgirl

Raji, when a mother gets accused in front of all it is terrible. I don't think anyone will disagree. But I would also like to see the same outrage and anger that Abhi is also wronged with this lie. I don't see that. That's very interesting to me!!


Prani .. I never said wronging Abhi with false fatherhood is correct not I am saying it now.. I am not saying It is correct to hide truth from him ..

I see people around him lying to him since months , Also I cant ignore N number of their struggles to get the truth infront of him which left significant clues before him which he royally ignored..I also see he is taking easy on the conspiracies going behind him .. I also see he has not been doing any thing for knowing the facts ..

Yes I would have felt same outrage if they hide everything from him and let him suffer .. But they are trying their best to stop the marriage ..

For me , his treatment to Sarla was mutually exclusive with the lie drama that family putting..Along with that Sarla has the least share in the Drama and he never tried to find out who had kidnapped her either ..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Raji will you please tell the scenes where Abhi loyally ignored the clues..
I think Abhi wants to know why Sarla put their hands together, not about who kidnapped her..

Now he is clear that he loves Pragya and reg Tanu HD feels the marriage with her is wrong

When Arora believe Purvi as wrong by seeing the money and by confession of a third person then how we expect different from Mehra

Since team knows all Tanu's plan and secrets they are supporting ma, else I bet Pragya won't scream to Abhi..

Also she is the owner right, if she feels her mom is not chorus then why she is not defending on her own and shut all their mouths, why she want Abhi to do that..

Purab knows abt Tanu right then why he is asking Abhi to stop police instead of Pragya.

When Ma believes the baby is Abhi's then how we expect Abhi to believe Ma when Money and Paper are in the room.

At last when Ma spoke emotionally he ask everyone to leave the matter, HE has that trust on people but team won't have on him
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ShaNchi

Raji will you please tell the scenes where Abhi loyally ignored the clues..

I think Abhi wants to know why Sarla put their hands together, not about who kidnapped her..

Now he is clear that he loves Pragya and reg Tanu HD feels the marriage with her is wrong

When Arora believe Purvi as wrong by seeing the money and by confession of a third person then how we expect different from Mehra

Since team knows all Tanu's plan and secrets they are supporting ma, else I bet Pragya won't scream to Abhi..

Also she is the owner right, if she feels her mom is not chorus then why she is not defending on her own and shut all their mouths, why she want Abhi to do that..

Purab knows abt Tanu right then why he is asking Abhi to stop police instead of Pragya.

When Ma believes the baby is Abhi's then how we expect Abhi to believe Ma when Money and Paper are in the room.

At last when Ma spoke emotionally he ask everyone to leave the matter, HE has that trust on people but team won't have on him


That was my reply why I was not outraged about Abhi being wronged all the while ..

At every instance Pragya or Dadi kept on saying about the facts are hidden from him and the things are not how he sees ..He still dont do any thing except taking a mental note ..

And about significant clues .. below are some of them
Police station incident with nikhil ,
Tanu at Lawyers office,
Divorce papers drama
After Holi incidence
Pragya stopping Tabhi marriage
Pragya told him Tanu has hramed Sarla Ma
Hospital scene

When one can defend him as much as he has reasons to ignore the clues.. The same amount of reasoning can be done to give an eye on them as this is his life .. And he willingly ignored all the conspiracies going behind him..

There is lot of difference between Ma believing Abhi as baby daddy and Abhi believing Ma as chor and politely asking her "why did you steal"
Abhi agreed or at least never suspected that he is father , then it none of the others business to suspect that ..Here she is telling that she did not do theft.. Dadi was insisting that it could be framed one ..Purab was defending Sarla Ma .. he could have given an ear to any one them before putting that question and impression before Ma

Yes I agree it is equally regressive as Puneet and Purvi case ..But that does make his insulting Ma correct in any way..
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Posted: 9 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: Cerealgirl


Having said that, when Tanu preggy started, did anyone believe Abhi? Did anyone ask for proof that he's the dad. The face value of the situation was he had a girlfriend and she got pregnant therefore the child is his. If you go by that, there's paperwork that ma needs money, the money is found in her cupboard, therefore she took it.

Nobody believed Abhi when he said the baby can't be his because he didn't have any physical relationship with Tanu. If they had believed him, he'd asked for a dna test or simply refused responsibility for baby. Everybody talked him that he is. At least going by the SBS, Abhi believed ma and told the cops to go back. He didn't get that chance.



Tanu's pregnancy; Did anyone believe Abhi? Ask for proofs - When did Abhi ever deny that the baby does not belong to him? 😆 He denied only until they got the tests done which proved Tanu is pregnant, because he feared the consequences. He himself said so. Since then, he's been taking the responsibility for impregnating Tanu not even giving the whole thing a deep thought how, when, where could all that have happened? Not even for once thinking Tanu might have slept with someone else? He did not even give it a hypothetical assumption 😆

So, why would anyone ask him for proof when he is accepting that the baby is his? 😕

Abhi not having any physical relationship with Tanu - He was only shown telling Tanu that they decided not to get physical after his marriage to Pragya. Abhi never told this to any other family member or even his so called wife.


Situation One:
Abhi impregnating Tanu and Sarla Maa not showing blind faith in her Beta Ji...

When Abhi accepted Tanu and him were in a relationship pre & post his marriage to Pragya and he even accepted 'bohat badi ghalati (baby) ho gayi mujhse' ... Sarla Maa had no other option but to believe what Beta Ji was saying because he was accepting his mistake & his track record was supporting that.

Situation Two:
Money found in Sarla's room and Abhi going by what he saw...

Here Sarla Maa is not taking responsibility for stealing. Time and again it has been proved Sarla is not a a money-greedy woman. It's always Abhi who has himself stepped forward to help her. She has never asked him for even a single penny. Monetary problems related to Kumkum Bhagya marriage hall are not something new or out of the blue. Sarla Maa has a clean track record. And Abhi should have given it all a thought before labeling her a 'chor' as Tayi Ji, Tanu and Mitaali.


In my opinion, both the situations are different and cannot be compared for this matter.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Raji9


That was my reply why I was not outraged about Abhi being wronged all the while ..

At every instance Pragya or Dadi kept on saying about the facts are hidden from him and the things are not how he sees ..He still dont do any thing except taking a mental note ..

And about significant clues .. below are some of them
Police station incident with nikhil ,
Abhi ask Pragya but did she provide the Right Answer
Tanu at Lawyers office,
Everyone at Lawyer Office, not only Tanu.. After all he asked Pragya whether She provided the Straight Answer
Divorce papers drama
Tanu cheated Pragya in divorce and Pragya & Team did the same.. Even HE dont want to marry her, his mind voice says whatever HE is doing is Wrong.. So why to doubt them.. I am not getting the point here..
After Holi incidence
HE is not in presence itself.. Even Pragya talks so much non sense with Tanu.. And Tanu gave a Clever answer for Dadi question..
Pragya stopping Tabhi marriage
ha ha.. If not Pragya Abhi itself will stop.. Anyways She misguided HIM with responsibilty and then she stops the marriage.. Does it worth... HE believes SHE loves HIM and so SHE stopped.. Without misguidance if She did something then I will think about it
Pragya told him Tanu has hramed Sarla Ma
Right Statement at Wrong Situation.. Why NOT when searching Sarla ma and why SO at the wrong timings
Hospital scene
Even the team is shocked about the happenings.. Also Tanu is clearly proved as a Victim there

When one can defend him as much as he has reasons to ignore the clues.. The same amount of reasoning can be done to give an eye on them as this is his life .. And he willingly ignored all the conspiracies going behind him..
When no one misguide HIM and stops twisting the tongue for each and every word spoken, HE will think untill then No use..

There is lot of difference between Ma believing Abhi as baby daddy and Abhi believing Ma as chor and politely asking her "why did you steal"
Abhi agreed or at least never suspected that he is father , then it none of the others business to suspect that ..Here she is telling that she did not do theft.. Dadi was insisting that it could be framed one ..Purab was defending Sarla Ma .. he could have given an ear to any one them before putting that question and impression before Ma
Thats why HE shut all their mouth and ask them to leave the matter.. Anyways HE will Save Ma also

Yes I agree it is equally regressive as Puneet and Purvi case ..But that does make his insulting Ma correct in any way..
It is a Tit for Tat to Sarla ma.. Nothing to explain much

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: SaaraDON



Tanu's pregnancy; Did anyone believe Abhi? Ask for proofs - When did Abhi ever deny that the baby does not belong to him? 😆 He denied only until they got the tests done which proved Tanu is pregnant, because he feared the consequences. He himself said so. Since then, he's been taking the responsibility for impregnating Tanu not even giving the whole thing a deep thought how, when, where could all that have happened? Not even for once thinking Tanu might have slept with someone else? He did not even give it a hypothetical assumption 😆

So, why would anyone ask him for proof when he is accepting that the baby is his? 😕

Abhi not having any physical relationship with Tanu - He was only shown telling Tanu that they decided not to get physical after his marriage to Pragya. Abhi never told this to any other family member or even his so called wife.


Situation One:
Abhi impregnating Tanu and Sarla Maa not showing blind faith in her Beta Ji...

When Abhi accepted Tanu and him were in a relationship pre & post his marriage to Pragya and he even accepted 'bohat badi ghalati (baby) ho gayi mujhse' ... Sarla Maa had no other option but to believe what Beta Ji was saying because he was accepting his mistake & his track record was supporting that.

Situation Two:
Money found in Sarla's room and Abhi going by what he saw...

Here Sarla Maa is not taking responsibility for stealing. Time and again it has been proved Sarla is not a a money-greedy woman. It's always Abhi who has himself stepped forward to help her. She has never asked him for even a single penny. Monetary problems related to Kumkum Bhagya marriage hall are not something new or out of the blue. Sarla Maa has a clean track record. And Abhi should have given it all a thought before labeling her a 'chor' as Tayi Ji, Tanu and Mitaali.


In my opinion, both the situations are different and cannot be compared for this matter.


Thank you for writing it Donjii .. On point 👏👏 . And it says all..
I was trying to say same thing in different replies . Could not comprehend it well enough ..

@underlined - That is a long due and very bad from Abhi side not to clear such an important decision with his wife.

Conveniently Abhi is defended every time taking facts from Mugambo track ..If one can defend Abhi saying this would have never happened when there are no lies around him then it would have never happened if he had given enough respect to his marriage and his wife ..

But I believe this is completely different from all the above stuff ..I see no justification fits for him to jump on conclusion on Sarla and questing her integrity publicly given that all the support she has shown to him going against her own daughter.

It is as regressive to see him early concluding Sarla as chor and more regressive to see him condemning Dadi's words . The worst is that he liberally gives steering of his thought process to Tanu .. One dailogue from her will change his perspective ..sigh !!

Glad..he at least asked her in the end to stay out of it ..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Shanchi .. Thanks for sharing your view .. We see things differently .. That is ok ..

According to me Pragya not telling truth is wrong .. Same way Abhi being clueless is also wrong ..Because I understand Facts not are not being to told him but they are trying to demonstrate the truth to him. ..

And In my opinion Purvi and Puneet case was framed and who ever involved that time were wrong

And now disrespecting Sarla Ma case is also absolute wrong given that she was framed in Abhi's house and wronged by Abhi ..

Because I cant assume and dont think Abhi has done justice to Purvi by insulting Sarla .. I see those things differently and see them as two events that are related in no way.. I cant say Abhi is not wrong because Sarla has done same mistake in past ..


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: SaaraDON



Tanu's pregnancy; Did anyone believe Abhi? Ask for proofs - When did Abhi ever deny that the baby does not belong to him? 😆 He denied only until they got the tests done which proved Tanu is pregnant, because he feared the consequences. He himself said so. Since then, he's been taking the responsibility for impregnating Tanu not even giving the whole thing a deep thought how, when, where could all that have happened? Not even for once thinking Tanu might have slept with someone else? He did not even give it a hypothetical assumption 😆

So, why would anyone ask him for proof when he is accepting that the baby is his? 😕

Abhi not having any physical relationship with Tanu - He was only shown telling Tanu that they decided not to get physical after his marriage to Pragya. Abhi never told this to any other family member or even his so called wife.


Situation One:
Abhi impregnating Tanu and Sarla Maa not showing blind faith in her Beta Ji...

When Abhi accepted Tanu and him were in a relationship pre & post his marriage to Pragya and he even accepted 'bohat badi ghalati (baby) ho gayi mujhse' ... Sarla Maa had no other option but to believe what Beta Ji was saying because he was accepting his mistake & his track record was supporting that.

Situation Two:
Money found in Sarla's room and Abhi going by what he saw...

Here Sarla Maa is not taking responsibility for stealing. Time and again it has been proved Sarla is not a a money-greedy woman. It's always Abhi who has himself stepped forward to help her. She has never asked him for even a single penny. Monetary problems related to Kumkum Bhagya marriage hall are not something new or out of the blue. Sarla Maa has a clean track record. And Abhi should have given it all a thought before labeling her a 'chor' as Tayi Ji, Tanu and Mitaali.


In my opinion, both the situations are different and cannot be compared for this matter.


That's right, Don! Abhi did not protest as much as he should have. That's his problem. Pragya convinced him that these things happen in love. I remember that scene clearly. Pragya asked him if he loved Tanu, Abhi started to say something but got cut off. If Abhi and Pragya had any sort of relationship and if had told her he did not have any physical relationship, then we don't know what might have happened. He actually trusted Pragya more than he trusted himself. That's sad he didn't stand up for himself more!!

No one said the situations are comparable, lol! The point is what happens if you go by proof, which is want the team wants. Proof that Tnau is pregnant is not enough to know the truth. And proof that money is in ma's room doesn't prove she's guilty either!!

And who said Sarla ma is money minded for goodness sake??😕 She had BMC problems and paying stuff for the hall before. When Pragya was trying to trap Aliya with that briefcase, Abhi took the money according to cctv. And he gave it to BB because she called him and asked for help with the hall. So there is a history where he has helped her with money for the hall. Yesterday was a throwback to that situation.

Thanks for your pov!!

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Posted: 9 years ago
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All this comes under the category of character assassination by CVs in a profound way! Killing abhi's character little by little to a position where a resurrection is hard to be done...

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