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Posted: 10 years ago
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Ishita was not a Jagat Mata and I'm gonna explain it in a while. But before that, few things need to be cleared. I think we're forgetting facts here and giving explanations like the way Mani gave that Ishita did one kind of "ehsaan" by marrying Raman. Mani successfully planted this gross misconceptions in many viewers mind. The harsh truth or reality is Ishita and Raman both engaged in a marriage of convenience because of their own selfish motives.

And if we're to discuss about who'd have married the other or not, then very clearly it's Ishita who'd gained a lot as she had literally no options left. FACT is Ishita had been rejected by man after man for years due to her infertility, her family had left no stone unturned to find a suitable groom for her since the time Subbu called of their marriage but they found none. On the other hand, Raman was one of the most eligible bachelors in town as the best CEO of India who's just in his early thirties (32 to be exact and Ishita was around 28-29). As usuual loud Toshiji brought her type of girls for Raman who're beauty with no brain but it's no secret that he's one of the most eligible bachelors in town without a doubt and many parents from reputed, respected families would have been proud to have him as their SIL. Hence, if we analyze the events based on facts shown in initial episodes of YHM, it's evident that things are exactly the opposite that you'd mentioned-- it's Ishita, NOT Raman, who'd been struggling for years to get married. Raman was one of the most eligible bachelors in town and if Raman wasn't trapped by Ashok-Shagun in the name of Ruhi's custody case (which happened thanks to Ishita), he most probably would have never married Ishita.

Another point, it's been pointed out Raman eventually became "good", before he was rude, arrogant. It's like he'd gone through transformation as a "person". This is another classic fallacy of Mani track that tried to HIJACK a love story of two broken souls as a story of the beauty and the beast. 😵 And the CVs succeed, many believed them as they calculatingly portray Raman outrageously rude spewing verbal venom at Ishita just before the entry of Mani track only to shift the ball of sympathy towards the beauty, Ishita, so that she got the credit of transforming the beast. That's why we saw CVs go ahead with this absurd, fake yet apparently TRP lucrative "the beauty and the beast" concept even after the Mani track, that's why we got Raman's so many UNCHARACTERISTIC "Dafa Ho Jao" shouting at Ishita in the subsequent tracks. NO, Raman DID NOT eventually become "good", that story of transforming the beast is a cent percent lie that CVs catered to the NEW TIME slot audience.
Raman has always been a gem of a person with his own flaws mainly due to the betrayal from Shagun. But as a person, as a human being...he was always SPOT ON. Even then he loved his daughter, family and friends immensely but didn't know how to express them as he made a self made invisible wall to guard his emotions that are once murdered by Shagun. Mihir, another gem of a person, knew how good his bhai was and that's why he didn't think twice to sacrifice his ladylove for his bhai. As I was saying Raman built an invisible wall and that's where Ishita came into play. With her care and love she pulled down that wall and set him free to express his love for his dear ones including his only solace at time of Shagun's betrayal, Ruhi-his daughter. Similarly, with care, trust and love, Raman pulled down Ishita's invisblie wall too; just like Raman realized not every woman is Shagun and Ishita also realized not every man is Subbu. That's beauty of OLD YHM which CVs murdered by their own hands with new time slot...with that goddamned Mani track. And since then, YHM is a gone case. It's not the track but the dangerous twisted notion did the ultimate damage to the show that we so hopelessly tried to voice out in the forum at that time.

PS: I'll explain how Ishita was NOT a Jagat Mata and how IshRa marriage was an act of pure selfishness from both Ishita and Raman in my next post of this thread as this rant is getting very lengthy. 😆



MS👏👏👏
u brought back memories of old YHM🤗
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: -MS-


Nothing personal re and I'm sorry if it hurt you, it wasn't my intention. This discussion reminded me old YHM and the golden days of this forum. So I butted in. Plus these misconceptions that were planted by Mani during his track are very sensitive for me...because I had a history with them. In fact many of the forum members had who're now not here.



true MS...MANI track which ended abruptly with the end of the raman overtaking ishita...that night...still an incomplete closure of the night...

qts still unanswered...and will always remain unanswered...

WOW MS...THIS was the YHM...we loved dearly...it is completely completely lost...

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: swatica

@MS ...



U r absolutely right... D tym u came up wid ur opinion ws a bad tym for me due to certain reasons.. N i ws too pissed, so cudnt take ur views wid ease... I tuk al dat as a PERSONAL ATTACK wid wasnt n i realised it whn i thght wid fresh mind.. I saw certain previous episodes n u were right..
She wasnt such frm day1 bt prima-facie any one wud feel so.. N as per ur depth analysis she ws an independant girl wid slef-respect n nt a JAGATAMATA.. N nw only glimpses of dat gal r seen frm tym to tym..
May I didnt realised it bt dats y RAMAN has always been my favrt character n ISHITA has irked me at several places... She is nw a typical SANSKARI BAHU wid glimpses of d old ISHITA sumwhr or d othr..

N thank u for tym u gv in giving such an elaborate n righteous post on d topic...N wud jst say.. watevr i said b4 ws in a confused n pissed state of mind...

Thank u...😊


You are welcome 😊
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: yakutamt

true MS...MANI track which ended abruptly with the end of the raman overtaking ishita...that night...still an incomplete closure of the night...
qts still unanswered...and will always remain unanswered...

WOW MS...THIS was the YHM...we loved dearly...it is completely completely lost...


Yeah. It happened just the way we'd warned during Mani track. Now it's a lost cause.

That night!! Well, rest assured there will never be any explanations from the CVs. Because they wanted just like this. CVs had gone overboard with Ishita to a point of no return and when they realized it's too late. So they made Raman fall to uphold Ishita and make it even for both. If the topic is raised, Ishita's hurtful, deceitful, disgusting deeds need to be mentioned and they can't afford to do that. Same way, the didn't give any logical confrontation of IshRa regarding Ishita's deeds of bhooth track other than Raman's outburst.Why we hated that Mani track? Because for the first time it gave CVs idea to butcher a lead character to an insane level and made Ishita a typical daily soap bahu who's always right no matter what.

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