# The Dard Story of A Spy...!!! LU/EDT 11/12/2015 # - Page 17

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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: .SoHu.


Yaar ye kisne kaha h?

I had a tough tym quoting and cutting this reply 😆

Uske andar ishan hooda jinda hai? Tricky pointer... Sohu Tumhara reply h kya?

I don't agree very much to this again 😆 .

Ishan hooda kaisa tha hum jaante hai?

Uska past sirf pictures me pata h. Hume bhi n rizwan ko bhi...
We juz have the idea... Sirf ek concept capture hua h " ishan hooda apni biwi se bahot pyaar Karta tha" that's it... Kya uska approach hume pata hai?

I had a long discussion on this with naseem on 7th Dec.. Ho sake toh ek baar vo padh lo if u havent...

My phone makes it tricky to copy paste here..

Its in my post of "mujhe preet nazar Ayi 7th Dec"



Yes Jahnvi ye main hoon..main main main😆
Dekh what I meant by Ishaan Hooda is not the real Ishaan Hooda who was the actual legal heir. The Ishaan Hooda I meant is the soul that Rizwaan Ahmed Khan has nurtured in his body. Ishaan Hooda in reality is an imaginary character to be honest cause we know nothing of him but I'm talking of that Ishaan Hooda who is a part of Rizwaan Ahmed Khan's heart..


Curse me.. M still not convinced 😆. Yaar ek baar vo link padh lo pls... Pg 2 and 3.. My phone battery has gone almost 😆
Rizwan has captured the idea that defined ishan... But kya Yaha meghana hai? Biwi jarur h par preet hai.. Toh kya uss idea ko ishan hooda ka naam mil sakta h? 😕
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: daydreamers


Yes Jahnvi ye main hoon..main main main😆
Dekh what I meant by Ishaan Hooda is not the real Ishaan Hooda who was the actual legal heir. The Ishaan Hooda I meant is the soul that Rizwaan Ahmed Khan has nurtured in his body. Ishaan Hooda in reality is an imaginary character to be honest cause we know nothing of him but I'm talking of that Ishaan Hooda who is a part of Rizwaan Ahmed Khan's heart..



Curse me.. M still not convinced 😆. Yaar ek baar vo link padh lo pls... Pg 2 and 3.. My phone battery has gone almost 😆
Rizwan has captured the idea that defined ishan... But kya Yaha meghana hai? Biwi jarur h par preet hai.. Toh kya uss idea ko ishan hooda ka naam mil sakta h? 😕


Achha ruk main woh post padhke tujhe batati hoon.. 😆
Dhairya rakho balikey😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
I'm hoping against hope. Emotions chupate chupate hopefully these two don't end up becoming emotionless. I'm still a few episodes back. So my replies may be irrelevant to today.
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by: -Destiny-

I'm hoping against hope. Emotions chupate chupate hopefully these two don't end up becoming emotionless. I'm still a few episodes back. So my replies may be irrelevant to today.


Point h lekha 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
From the recap it looked like Preet was being a little too sure of exposing Naina. I have feeling she isn't going to be successful 😕 I just hope it doesn't backfire, otherwise things will get worse than what it was this past Monday. Ishaan will be very pissed... Don't want more problems between ishreet
Edited by Exoctica - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
lovely post!!!
Ishaan does not exists, all these traits are of Rizwan only 😊, Ishaan is just a name, no one even knows what were the traits of real Ishaan, how good, evil or grey he was
Hooda's have fallen for the love n care showered on them by Rizwan under name Ishaan 😊
when he said na k " Ishaan hota toh yeh karta" for that dialogue i am saying he acted as Ishaan not Rizwan 😆 abhi samjh aaya ya nhi 😆

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Let me put it in a different way...

Suppose u watch the movie jodha-akbar or bhaag milkha bhaag...

They are on legends.. One a historic figure and other a living legend...

U watch the movie. U take their life into account.. U know their traits, thoughts, personality, life course... There's but obvious cinematic liberty... So do they show every single minute detail? No.. They have to wrap it up in 3 hrs with songs interval, etc etc.. You get a glimpse of their life...

You believe it to be real because never have met Akbar jodha or milkha singh... You assume it to be true...

Mudde ki baat ye h.. U can copy an idea, u can copy a thought but cannot copy the approach or execution...

The actors made the legends real on screen.. But are they really those? No they are reel.. Real personalities are diffn.

But the audience shall believe them to be real because they have never interacted with the real Akbar or real milkha singh.. Kehne ki baat ye h ki u believe what is being shown...

So what is the relation with ish and riz?

Riz just knows that ish loved his wife a lot... He captures the idea and assimilates in himself ( which has turned true for he has fallen for his wife already).

Does riz know what approach would ish had taken? No.. Because he has never interacted with him...

Now relate the movie illustration here..

The actor is rizwan. Character is ishan.. And audience is huddas...
Huddas believe him to be ishan as they themselves have not seen ishan and known ishan except for his childhood days...

And rizwan is pretty unaware of the fact that iss acting k chakkar me he has forgotten the character and given himself to the family... So yes u can say atif miyaan k oar se rizwan though a kaabil sipahi is a poor actor...

Jab bande ko ishan ki detailing pata hi nahi h how can he act like ishan? He just stole the ideas... Initial naina ki entry k scenes yaad karo.. The man is so clueless.. He bluffs.. He is scared to be caught... Actors aise nahi hote.. Spies aise nahi hote...

Vo Bas ek hi idea par h ishan apni biwi se bahot pyaar Karta tha... But isse rizwan ko kya h? Was he related to meghana? No.. But he has to act in that manner in front of preet.. But very amusingly vo waha bhi ishan jaisa nai act kar sakta coz he doesn't know exactly how meghana was what the duo shared.. He snaps shouts at preet whenever she mentions kavya ki maa. He there also is rizwan... For the fear of being caught reverse psychology me jaata h.. Starts fretting and fuming...

I hope your doubt is cleared naseem... 😆 nahi hua hoga tab bhi bol...

Coz ishan is juz a hypothetical figure for rizwan and us... For huddas he becomes real as an actor named rizwan is playing it as per his own feelings... 😆 toh waha bhi they are dealing with rizwan and not ishan... Bas naam ka chakkar h.. Vo bhi sulajh jaega


*my take on ishan rizwan...

Edited by daydreamers - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago

Originally posted by RollingStones

I felt yest Rizwaan was more off trying to keep Hooda's at high Pedestal .
Yes "Hooda's caring for Preet once He leave" that thought was there..ALWAYS..!!
But I felt He didnt wanted Hooda's to pinpoint at him or his Preet over maligning thier Family Image.
He chose the Hooda's Image over his Wife's Self Respect...

I felt his Monologue that Had Ishaan been in place of me even He would have done the same thing..
Because for Ishaan's Bade Papa's izzat is of atmost Importance...

I thought it in this way...I can be wrong though... :(

I am loving the flip-flop that is happening with Ishaan-Rizwaan..

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Asmita, I differ somewhere...

Ishan is dead for audiences... He is alive only for huddas and the society and definitely preet...

Do we know how ishan was? No... Do huddas know how ishan was? NO. Does preet know how ishan was? NO...

What is being shown? Who is being shown?

We have rizwan... Only rizwan... Ishan is there only in thoughts... Huddas love ishan... Preet loves ishan... But is he really ishan? No...

Changing a name won't change a person... Name is ishan but the man is rizwan... Rizwan has given himself in the name of ishan...

Do they love ishan? No.. They all have fallen for rizwan.. His goodness. His kindness.. And his maturity...

Days ago we got to know meghana's parents were against their marriage. But did that stop ishan from marrying her? ( reason chahe jo ho he married her). What if it was rizwan in his place?

Rizwan unlike ishan( the info that v know till now) is a family oriented person.. He values family above all as he lost one when he was young... In ishan's case he might have seen the bitterness in his family coz of the enstranged relations of hudda siblings...

What we got to know about him was he loved his wife...

Coming to rizwan... For me the monologue was deep... Very deep... This man wants the family as much as he needs preet...

The time he shall be away, he want them to look after each other... Its not about bade papa's ijjat its the respect the family and preet have for each other...

He wants preet to apologize to keep her position the same in the family... He knows she is right. His heart knows it. But he told her to say sorry..it shows not jus his concern but the level of his maturity... 👏

He isn't jus a husband in love but a family man... He wants everyone to be happy...

He saw a glimpse of what happened when preet did smthn like going against their family... He saw how the family reacted...

He saw preet getting sidelined... He saw even if she was right she was abandoned ( metaphorically).. He doesnt want her to be alone... He doesnt want her to be belittled in front of others ( bilaal and naina though metaphorically they are family but literally they aren't) hence the word "position" comes... He doesnt want her value to decrease in eyes of others... Had she apologized he would have heard her later... He wanted to manage the situation efficiently... Aisa ki dono tarafa baat sambhal jaye without much drama.. But preet being preet didn't pay heed😆

Coming to the monologue where ishan was mentioned.. Ye sirf rizwan ka assumption hai ki ishan bhi aisa Karta.. Vo Sach me ye Karta we don't know...

But I don't think he would have done this... The person who married a girl without her parents' consent can't be so mature and logical in handling family matters... He on rizwan's place would have supported preet openly and messed up the whole thing forever...

I guess right from beginning the time I had joined the forum I have always have stated we have rizwan only rizwan.. Ishan is just a googly 😆

P.S- I mean no offense 😳


Edited by daydreamers - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
Though no one knows how Ishaan was as a person.. I feel Rizwaan has made an image of how Ishaan must have been.. Adarsh beta, pati, father, brother... Rizwaan gave life to Ishaan.. Rizwaan has conjured up Ishaan... Ishaan is his subconscious... Rizwaan is not in reality imitating Ishaan or anything.. I have always said that Rizwaan's heart was never dead... This makes him a slave to Ishaan... His subconscious side .. So even if in reality there is no Ishaan.. Ishaan stays alive in Rizwaan's mind and heart..
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Posted: 10 years ago
Is it really ishan vs rizwan or
Real self vs unreal self? Is a brainwashed self the real self?

P.S: shall elaborate in character sketch...
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Posted: 10 years ago
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4531909&PID=129527003&#p129527003
kahaani iski, uski aur unki part 1 updated...

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